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Where Have All Our Houses Gone
Townhall.com ^ | February 3, 2013 | Fritz Pfister

Posted on 02/03/2013 7:18:30 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: mountn man

I agree...but let me add a few things. In many areas, there are ‘good parts of town’ and ‘bad parts of town’, as far as housing is concerned. Crime, school district, whatever has made some areas the preferred place to buy.

These ‘good parts of town’ areas were sprawling away from the city center, extending utilities like sewer and water as they went.

When the bubble burst, we were left with a zone of failed development, on the edge of the city. There are bare lots, possibly with only pavement but no utilities like power and gas installed. The lots are burdened with developer mortgages, as well as high special assessments to pay for the street. They are poison...nobody is going to buy them.

This band of failed development serves as a giant moat, preventing additional development. Its too expensive to build utilities through these areas, to start new developments further out, on land that isn’t poison.

This all equates to alot less development and building.

Also, most of the developers still standing in my city are now doing very small phases...so as not to become too leaveraged. These small phases can’t keep up with demand; but, they and th banks will not do larger phases for now. I’m talking 16 lot developments.


21 posted on 02/03/2013 9:16:24 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: kabar
We live in a bubble in NoVA. It is far from being representative of the rest of the country.

Whatever happens, it is already popping. Defense spending has already started to decline and it will be reduced tremendously in March.

22 posted on 02/03/2013 9:32:14 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: RegulatorCountry

If anyone is interested, that incomplete remodel in foreclosure appears to have sold as of yesterday for $54,900.00. Needs climate control system, interior finishing, much landscaping work. Nice house though, if you only need two bedrooms and two baths.

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/9451-Gideon-Grove-Church-Rd_Stokesdale_NC_27357_M58079-06166


23 posted on 02/03/2013 9:38:27 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Wow, what a steal. $50k to finish it off? Looks like a very nice home.


24 posted on 02/03/2013 10:02:09 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I have been admiring it for a while. I’d seriously consider taking it on myself, if I were in a position to do so, as I mentioned. Those are Jeld-Wen windows and doors, the doors are clear fir. A lot of recent stone work, great fireplace. The pool’s a disaster though, I’d probably take it out.


25 posted on 02/03/2013 10:06:41 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: albie
I think a lot of people are still “under water” and can’t or haven’t recovered from the 2008-2009 dip in prices. Better to hang on than go to foreclosure.

If they don't HAVE to move, they're likely hanging on, especially if they bought their homes at the height of the market. They don't want to give their homes away.

26 posted on 02/03/2013 11:01:02 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: ClearCase_guy
I do think we're in trouble. But I don't know why the world isn't falling down around my ears right this very moment. Apparently the game can keep going on and on and on.

You're right. there is an unspoken effort to "keep the show Going" by those that have the MOST to lose if it stops.

As usually happens, the END GAME will occur when we least expect it.

All you and I can do is realize that the best we can do is be prepared for the INEVITABLE.

27 posted on 02/03/2013 11:01:51 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: mountn man
Before the bubble burst, there were homes being built everywhere. Financing was cheap and very easy.

Austrian economic theory explains this quite readily. Artificially low interest rates lead to malinvestment, that is, investment in things that would be uneconomical at real market interest rates. So we had over-investment in housing. Then the bubble burst. Lots of unwanted housing, and housing people realized they couldn't afford.

I'll give Rudyard Kipling the last word:

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins

When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,

As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,

The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

28 posted on 02/03/2013 11:41:20 AM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: kabar

Once the Marylander imports succeed in raising NoVa taxes to Montgomery County, MD levels, the bubble will burst. Fairfax County won’t be attractive any more.


29 posted on 02/03/2013 11:52:00 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Every possible trick is being used to forestall the ultimate collapse and I agree that it has worked longer than I ever thought it possibly could but there is also the huge effort to keep the truth covered up. We have no news media willing to tell the truth. If we had real investigative reporting on TV and in newspapers we would not be in the shape we are in and that shape is far worse than is being reported.


30 posted on 02/03/2013 12:45:03 PM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Whatever happens, it is already popping. Defense spending has already started to decline and it will be reduced tremendously in March.

Never happen. Both parties don't want to cut spending. There will be a deal on sequestration "postponing" cuts to out years and increasing revenue thru cutting loopholes. We are just watching another kubuki dance.

"Of course, as Brad Plumer notes in the Washington Post's Wonkblog today, defense spending always trails off in the fourth quarter, because the department, like other federal agencies, tends to squeeze a lot of spending into the third quarter because it's when the fiscal year ends. But a drop that breaks a 40-year record is another thing entirely.

And it's worth remembering that these cuts took place before Defense agencies recently went public with the news that they are slowing procurement spending, cutting contract workers and preparing for civilian employee furloughs in anticipation that a sequester will kick in at the end of February."

31 posted on 02/03/2013 2:15:49 PM PST by kabar
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To: Hoodat

Dream on. The GOP still controls the governorship and the House of Delegates by a wide margin. It is a deadlock in the Senate.


32 posted on 02/03/2013 2:18:47 PM PST by kabar
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To: Kaslin

Question: what is a slick (and possibly illegal) way to keep property taxes high, when houses won’t sell at all?


33 posted on 02/03/2013 2:34:39 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: JoeFromSidney
I had heard a story one time, that when the JC Penney company was first thinking about extending credit, James Cash himself told the board that credit might actually increase company sales and profits, but that credit would ultimately hurt their customers, as it would encourage them to buy things they really didn't need with money they really didn't have.

The board won out.

Our entire society is a credit based economy. And though there are places for credit, JC's words ring very true today.

34 posted on 02/03/2013 3:19:45 PM PST by mountn man (ATTITUDE- The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It.)
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To: The Duke

Where is your “hometown”? We’re seriously looking into moving to Tennessee. IF we can sell our house. And that’s a big IF.


35 posted on 02/03/2013 8:49:39 PM PST by Terry Mross (Who long before America is no more?)
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To: Hoodat

I feel that too.


36 posted on 02/03/2013 8:53:43 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Things keep going until God says otherwise. The Bible says that God raises the nations up and brings them down. When God says “go!”, the rug will be pulled out from under!


37 posted on 02/04/2013 4:33:16 AM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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To: Terry Mross

You should have a detailed email reply from me in your Freeper mailbox. Glad to help!


38 posted on 02/05/2013 7:32:48 PM PST by The Duke
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