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Register or Rebel: How Many New Yorkers Will Defy The New Gun Law?
Pajamas Media ^ | 01/28/2013 | Bob Owens

Posted on 01/28/2013 9:55:48 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Already, there are signs that Governor Cuomo and his allies underestimated the pushback.

As draconian, ill-advised, and possibly unconstitutional as the New York Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement (NY SAFE) anti-gun law was when it was hastily signed into law, it might have been far worse — this according to a New York legislator who fought against the bill.

Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin has released documentation showing rejected Democratic proposals for the NY SAFE Act. They included these:

There were more.

Assemblyman McLaughlin explained the intent of his Democrat colleagues in Albany on his campaign site:

Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin (R, C, I-Melrose) today revealed a 15-point anti-Second Amendment wish list that Democrats lobbied to be included in the final New York Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement (NY SAFE) Act. McLaughlin called the list the “second phase” of a gun-grab agenda targeting responsible firearm owners that downstate politicians have been supporting for years.

“First the new gun-control bill made criminals out of law-abiding New Yorkers. And the radical, anti-Second Amendment proposals outlined in this wish list suggest the second phase of the plan: confiscation,” said McLaughlin. “When downstate politicians criminalize responsible gun ownership, they only empower criminals.”

The rejected proposals seem to mirror — at least in part — the desires of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who had publicly entertained gun confiscation and forced buybacks.

The provisions of the NY SAFE Act that did become law still demand far more of New Yorkers than many gun owners are willing to comply with. For example, one of the requirements of the law is that all newly classified “assault weapons” must be registered with the New York State Police by April 15, 2014. Many New York guns owners are intent on refusing to register their firearms:

Assault-rifle [sic] owners statewide are organizing a mass boycott of Gov. Cuomo’s new law mandating they register their weapons, daring officials to “come and take it away,” The Post has learned.

Gun-range owners and gun-rights advocates are encouraging hundreds of thousands of owners to defy the law, saying it’d be the largest act of civil disobedience in state history.

“I’ve heard from hundreds of people that they’re prepared to defy the law, and that number will be magnified by the thousands, by the tens of thousands, when the registration deadline comes,” said Brian Olesen, president of the American Shooters Supply, one of the largest gun dealers in the state.

Officials estimate at least 1 million semiautomatic rifles are owned in the state, sources said.

And come April 15, 2014 — when Cuomo is expected to be running for re-election — they all have to be registered with the State Police.

But because the rifles have been legal but unregistered until now, authorities don’t know who has them or where they are located.

State officials will be nervously watching the registration figures to see how many gun owners comply, sources said.

New York has estimated that there are one million firearms that fit their new definition of an “assault weapon,” and they are concerned that a large number of citizens will rip the teeth out of the law by simply refusing to register their arms. Perhaps hundreds of thousands of New York’s most law-abiding citizens are likely to make the choice to rebel against an unconstitutional law that violates their Second Amendment rights.

Perhaps of even more concern to Governor Cuomo and his anti-gun allies: this high level of resistance arose before Assemblyman McLaughlin released the list of confiscatory amendments Democrats had wanted to include in the NY SAFE Act.

NY Democrats have tipped their hand on their gun-control agenda, revealing to citizens that confiscatory disarmament of the civilian population is their goal, and that the “slippery slope” is no fable. They grossly miscalculated the public’s acceptance of their assault on the Second Amendment. What that means for the future in New York remains to be seen.

Also see: Obama: Yeah, I Go Shooting ‘All The Time’



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: New York
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To: lurk

The government itself is breaking the law by abridging citizens’ Second Amendment rights.


41 posted on 01/28/2013 11:28:08 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: SeekAndFind

Up here in God`s Country we got thousands of weapons brought home by our fathers and grandfathers after WW2 and Korea, `Nam-. We got BAR`s, CHICOM tommy burps from NK`s, AK47`s from `Nam- These SOB`s will face a formidible army of unregistered weapons. I got weapons I bought in 1950`s at the hardware store-as a 14 year old- it was legal in NY State then— never had to register anything then. These Cuomonistas SOB`s will get the unexpected return from my investment.


42 posted on 01/28/2013 11:28:26 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Up here in God`s Country we got thousands of weapons brought home by our fathers and grandfathers after WW2 and Korea, `Nam-. We got BAR`s, CHICOM tommy burps from NK`s, AK47`s from `Nam- These SOB`s will face a formidible army of unregistered weapons. I got weapons I bought in 1950`s at the hardware store-as a 14 year old- it was legal in NY State then— never had to register anything then. These Cuomonistas SOB`s will get the unexpected return from my investment.


43 posted on 01/28/2013 11:28:26 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower.)
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To: bunkerhill7

RE: Up here in God`s Country

Where on earth is that?


44 posted on 01/28/2013 11:29:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Pecos

Yes, it tells the states that they can’t create a database either; see this snippet :

“No such rule or regulation prescribed [by the Attorney General] after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary’s authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.”


45 posted on 01/28/2013 11:30:42 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: steve86

No dilemma, the government itself is unlawful in abridging the Second Amendment rights of citizens.


46 posted on 01/28/2013 11:31:10 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: C210N

Cuomo himself was born into a class of Southern European criminals. That makes it somewhat difficult to decide who among them are legitimately government people who are there just for the loot.


47 posted on 01/28/2013 11:32:01 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: lurk

I know of three guys whose government told them that they had to bow down and worship a statue whenever they heard music.
They didn’t do it.


48 posted on 01/28/2013 11:32:50 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 556x45

4473’s are paper are they not?

Some incendiary devices could find their way into those filing cabinets, I’d say...


49 posted on 01/28/2013 11:33:52 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: steve86
It's a real dilemma for inerrancy advocates, literalists and Sola Scriptura followers, isn't it.

Not at all. Has Rome sent out its marching orders yet?

50 posted on 01/28/2013 11:35:45 AM PST by xone
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To: Gaffer; C210N; MeganC

Well, they have indeed ignored those laws.

See posts 34 and 35 by C210N and MeganC respectively for the proper response to illegal laws put forth by the govt.


51 posted on 01/28/2013 11:37:51 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: C210N
Gun owners need to set up "sanctuary" cities or counties, and point out to the government that whereas the sanctuary cities for illegals exist because the government doesn't enforce federal law, the Second Amendment sanctuary areas exist in accordance with law re the Second Amendment. Then let them explain how sanctuary is acceptable for lawbreakers, but not for law-abiders.
52 posted on 01/28/2013 11:38:34 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Gaffer

Right, but they still cant use the 4473 legally for that. It would have to be infos given at the time of sale (or via owners of existing guns) by the FFL. Bottom line is they arent currently allowed exc for certain cases to access 4473s. Im sure they could find any number of ways around that.


53 posted on 01/28/2013 11:39:08 AM PST by 556x45
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To: MrB

Had a fire back 3-4 years ago at my local Bargain Barn where I’ve been a GOOD customer. I aksed them about if any of my 4473s burned....guy told me they’re mandated to keep the forms in a FIRE PROOF safe and they were all fine....DRAT!


54 posted on 01/28/2013 11:41:02 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: MrB

Yes, they’re paper forms. In some cases FFLs keep them on computers as well. Then there’s the FBI NICS system which is supposed to destroy transactions older then x hrs. I really don’t think this is happening. So thats another sources of infos re gun sales.


55 posted on 01/28/2013 11:44:20 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Gaffer; C210N; MeganC

Well, they have indeed ignored those laws.

See posts 34 and 35 by C210N and MeganC respectively for the proper response to illegal laws put forth by the govt.


56 posted on 01/28/2013 11:45:36 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

I’d have guessed likely similarly about those who will/won’t comply. It’s a matter of a number of things: exposure, what’s at stake to lose, family, job, business, etc.

This is probably the most direct threat that I’ve seen on this country in my lifetime - by our own compatriots, supposedly.

I’m not saying here in the opening salvos with NY state that so goes the nation, but it could come down to the same kind of sacrifice that our forefathers who signed their names on that document put themselves - lives, fortunes and sacred honor for the rest of the country. I see them nothing more than Hitler’s Nazis, Mussolini’s goose-steppers, or Stalin’s henchmen. They are evil to the bone.


57 posted on 01/28/2013 11:49:24 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: mosesdapoet

One of our liberal chicks at work a few months ago told me one day that “she bet I was one of those rednecks hoarding guns/ammo and food”.

She was set back when I said no just guns and ammo and a little bit of water and day or two worth of food. When she asked why I said because I won’t waste the money on stuff I can take from her as I need it. I told her I will make sure I take everything she and her like mind loser friends have. I smiled and walked away. She hasn’t spoken to me since. Mission accomplished.

I wasn’t lying. I changed my tactic a while back and only store enough to get me a short while until I go on a raid. I know where all my neighbors live that have Nobama or Coexist stickers.


58 posted on 01/28/2013 11:53:22 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind

If you dunno where it is, you ain`t no hillbilly- you must be one of them thar cityslickers spying on us Patriots here uns.


59 posted on 01/28/2013 12:03:38 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower.)
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To: lurk

The constitution enshrines the notion that the people are the government. The 2nd Amendment states that the right to keep and bear arms “shall not be infringed”. It becomes then easy as to what choices a Christian gun owner should be make.


60 posted on 01/28/2013 12:27:18 PM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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