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Joe Manchin backpedals on gun control after constitutents confront him
Hotair ^ | 01/24/2013 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 01/24/2013 10:51:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Remember the summer of 2009? Members of Congress came home to hold town-hall meetings as usual in August, part of their annual listening-tour strategy to keep incumbents in favor back in home states and districts. When voters started showing up in droves to berate these Senators and Representatives over ObamaCare, however, the town-hall meetings started getting canceled, and those that did continue made for great moments on YouTube --- especially the declaration from former US Representative Baron Hill (D-IN), who declared that no one could tape the meeting because he didn't want it to end up on YouTube [update: video fixed]:

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO

This is my town hall meeting, and I set the rules. I’ve had these rules — [booing] — Uh, let me repeat that one more time. This is my town-hall meeting for you. And you’re not going to tell me how to run my Congressional office. Now, the reason why I don’t allow filming is because usually the films that are done end up on YouTube in a compromising position.

The town-hall scolding has come back in style, at least in West Virginia, according to the New York Times. Senator Joe Manchin visited the home folks last week in a forum that should have been more friendly — a meeting of “businessmen and community leaders” in Beckley. Nevertheless, the group gave Manchin an earful over his professed support for Barack Obama’s gun-control legislation:

Despite his best attempts to reassure them — “I see no movement, no talk, no bills, no nothing” — they remained skeptical. “We give up our rights one piece at a time,” a banker named Charlie Houck told the senator. …

And on the afternoon the 15 residents met with Mr. Manchin in the conference room of a local arts center, they told him that going after guns and ammunition capacity would be much like banning box cutters after the Sept. 11 attacks, or limiting whiskey and six-pack sales to cure alcoholism.

“It takes about a second and a half to change a clip,” said Frank Jezioro, a former special agent with the Office of Naval Intelligence and now director of the state Division of Natural Resources.

Mr. Jezioro likened gunmen in mass shootings to suicide bombers: they will always find a way. “A guy can walk through this door right here with your Beretta five-shot automatic, and cut the barrel off at 16 inches, and put five double-ought buckshots in there and kill everybody in here in a matter of seconds,” he said. “And you don’t have to aim it.”

And it had its intended impact:

As a hunter with an A rating from the National Rifle Association, Mr. Manchin gave advocates for new weapons laws reason for optimism after he said last month that gun firepower and magazine capacity might need to be limited.

But now, Mr. Manchin, who affirmed his support for gun rights by running a campaign commercial in 2010 showing him firing a rifle into an environmental bill, says he is not so sure. One of his local offices has been picketed, and even some of his most thoughtful supporters are cautioning him that stronger background checks are about all the gun control they can stomach.

And Manchin doesn’t have to run for re-election next year, like a number of Democrats in the Senate do. The NYT mentions Jean Shaheen (D-NH), whose state produces Rugers and Sig Sauers. There’s also Kay Hagan of North Carolina, who has to be rather cognizant of the Democratic collapse in her state last November. Survey USA polled voters in North Carolina on the gun-control issue, and found that 54% believe it’s more important to protect the right to own weapons than to restrict access to them. While there is some support for limiting magazine capacities, almost two-thirds (63%) want better enforcement of existing legislation rather than new laws. In a multi-answer question, a large plurality said that better security (41%) would better address school shootings, while only 18% chose making access to guns more difficult. Almost the same percentage (16%) chose better access to mental-health resources.

The Obama gun-control package will go nowhere, especially if these red-state Democrats go home and start talking to constituents.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: 113th; banglist; guncontrol; joemanchin; manchin; secondamendment; westvirginia; wv2013
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To: Cyber Liberty

Good to know!
Thanks


21 posted on 01/24/2013 1:30:42 PM PST by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Manchin is the biggest hypocrite in Washington DC. He claims he’s pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, and pro-2nd amendment, and ran against Obamacare, but he’s still in the democratic party where they hate gun rights, hate unborn children, hate God, and hate marriage. Can you say hypocrite!


22 posted on 01/24/2013 2:09:19 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: frogjerk

With good reason they are very afraid


23 posted on 01/24/2013 2:13:00 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: cherokee1

Manchin ran supporting coal and turned his back on the only industry in the state.still the fools voted for his sorry ass as they have the stupid rockafeller for years. Look how great that’s gone for em


24 posted on 01/24/2013 2:19:23 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
I live in a state that will never ever have pub senators nor governors...not my area....but the other part of the state is solid insanely democrat no matter what...I have little choice...

but you folks in states like Montana and West Virginia and North dakota....you have a chance to send solid conservaative people to Congress...

yet we get Manchin....

this is the absolute truth....rats are 100% loyal to party first, citizens second...they don't care about the people....they only care to keep in line with their Rat masters....

so this Manchin guy talked a good line...blah...blah...blah....I'm telling you right now...he'll only vote conservative if it doesn't make a difference,and he'll always back the leftist rats....

25 posted on 01/24/2013 2:43:22 PM PST by cherry
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To: MrB

Guess he doesn’t quite understand what the title Representative means.


26 posted on 01/24/2013 4:58:15 PM PST by Guardian Sebastian
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To: cherokee1
You folks in WV are on your own but had best take Manchin to a series or proper “schools” because it’s obvious from here that he’s just itchin’to sell you out.

The people of West Virginia were offered a good, solid Republican candidate, I understand, and yet they just seem so attached to Democrats that they cannot see what is in their best interests.

27 posted on 01/24/2013 5:03:23 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“The lesson to be learned here is that if you elect a dumbocrat, no matter if he/she has a AAA+++++++ rating from the NRA, he/she will always be suspect, because in the end they are still Democrats.”

Which brings us to the NRA’s relationship with that POS Harry Reid..


28 posted on 01/24/2013 8:42:16 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Puppage

Come to think of it, my esteemed Rep. Courtney (D-CT) hasn’t had a major town hall meeting since ObamaCare. Even then he held it in Woodstock, as far as possible from his constituents.


29 posted on 01/24/2013 10:04:57 PM PST by matt04
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To: SeekAndFind
Here's your opportunity to call your Congressman and ask when they will be holding a townhall meeting..or not. The Tea Party Patriots is conducting a drive whereby they will assist you in making a call to your Congressman and asking them if and when they will be holding a townhall. Go to http://www.teapartypatriots.org/advocacy/?cid=57, read the article and follow the steps.

Also, here's another link for TPP: http://www.teapartypatriots.org/focus/f-news/2981620/posts

Tea Party Patriots is a very active, strong, energized organization with great ideas...check them out.

30 posted on 01/25/2013 12:24:08 AM PST by itssme
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To: SeekAndFind

Statement from Chris W. Cox Regarding Universal Background Checks

Posted on January 24, 2013

An article appearing on TheHill.com today asserted that Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) is working on a bill with the NRA that would implement universal background checks.

NRA does NOT support universal background checks and is not working with Manchin to implement this type of legislation. NRA opposes, and will continue to oppose, universal background checks and registration schemes.

-NRA-

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/news-from-nra-ila/2013/1/statement-from-chris-w-cox.aspx


31 posted on 01/25/2013 9:01:42 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: max americana
"Which brings us to the NRA’s relationship with that POS Harry Reid.."

What relationship there is could come to an abrupt end if he brings up an assault weapons ban. I just want to clarify one thing about Harry Reid and the NRA. It's been more that Harry Reid has courted their support than the other way around. I believe last election he had a B rating from them. The only thing that made me a little upset with the NRA and Reid is when they didn't back Sharon Angle against him in 2010. Though she has strong positions on the second amendment I believe she didn't have any legislative votes on it, therefore they went with Reid.
32 posted on 01/25/2013 9:12:03 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: IamConservative

Unfortunately most of the democrats who own weapons will support obama because of their worship of him. They may even bitch but, in the end, they’ll fall in line.

I know obama worshippers who were very angry about Sotomayor. Yet they all voted to re-elect their messiah.


33 posted on 01/25/2013 10:03:46 PM PST by Terry Mross
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