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So what if abortion ends life? (Barf Alert)
Salon ^ | January 23, 2013 | Mary Elizabeth Williams

Posted on 01/23/2013 4:57:50 PM PST by Pinkbell

Of all the diabolically clever moves the anti-choice lobby has ever pulled, surely one of the greatest has been its consistent co-opting of the word “life.” Life! Who wants to argue with that? Who wants be on the side of … not-life? That’s why the language of those who support abortion has for so long been carefully couched in other terms. While opponents of abortion eagerly describe themselves as “pro-life,” the rest of us have had to scramble around with not nearly as big-ticket words like “choice” and “reproductive freedom.” The “life” conversation is often too thorny to even broach. Yet I know that throughout my own pregnancies, I never wavered for a moment in the belief that I was carrying a human life inside of me. I believe that’s what a fetus is: a human life. And that doesn’t make me one iota less solidly pro-choice.

As Roe v. Wade enters its fifth decade, we find ourselves at one of the most schizo moments in our national relationship with reproductive choice. In the past year we’ve endured the highest number of abortion restrictions ever. Yet support for abortion rights is at an all-time high, with seven in 10 Americans in favor of letting Roe v. Wade stand, allowing for reproductive choice in all or “most” cases. That’s a stunning 10 percent increase from just a decade ago. And in the midst of this unique moment, Planned Parenthood has taken the bold step of reframing the vernacular – moving away from the easy and easily divisive words “life” and “choice.” Instead, as a new promotional film acknowledges, “It’s not a black and white issue.”

(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; liberalism; moralabsolutes; prolife
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Why can’t we agree that how they felt about their pregnancies was vastly different, but that it’s pretty silly to pretend that what was growing inside of them wasn’t the same? Fetuses aren’t selective like that. They don’t qualify as human life only if they’re intended to be born.

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When we try to act like a pregnancy doesn’t involve human life, we wind up drawing stupid semantic lines in the sand: first trimester abortion vs. second trimester vs. late term, dancing around the issue trying to decide if there’s a single magic moment when a fetus becomes a person. Are you human only when you’re born? Only when you’re viable outside of the womb? Are you less of a human life when you look like a tadpole than when you can suck on your thumb?

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It seems absurd to suggest that the only thing that makes us fully human is the short ride out of some lady’s vagina.

I'll give her credit. Is her position evil? No question. Is it is logically consistent? Absolutely. Most pro-aborts are not logically consistent, attempting to rationalize that what they are killing is not a person. I think there are some who have convinced themselves (this applies especially to those in the middle and some low information pro-aborts) that what they are killing is not a person. To admit that it is is something that they can't reconcile with their conscience. I think many pro-aborts, especially those who work in the abortion industry, do know it is a person being killed, but they have to keep up the lie in order to appeal to other pro-aborts who deny the truth and the middle.

This woman, though, knows the truth, and she says, "So What?!! Who cares?!!" She literally writes, "If by some random fluke I learned today I was pregnant, you bet your ass I’d have an abortion. I’d have the World’s Greatest Abortion." So logically consistent? Indeed. Evil? You betcha.

1 posted on 01/23/2013 4:58:08 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

MS magazine was publishing the early writings of this thinking, 20 years ago.


2 posted on 01/23/2013 5:06:34 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: Pinkbell

Roe v Wade AD. Happy 40th Anniversary, Baby Commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l88fRoOD2rk


3 posted on 01/23/2013 5:08:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Pinkbell
Who wants be on the side of … not-life?

For someone trying not to mince words, she still managed to shy away from the most precise descriptions of her hobby. "Not-life" sounds like something from 1984's NewSpeak. The English word she is avoiding would be "murder".

"If by some random Fluke I learned today I was pregnant . . .

Did someone mention abortion and the perpetually amorous Ms. Fluke in the same sentence?

4 posted on 01/23/2013 5:08:44 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: Pinkbell

Pure evil I agree... she is admitting that she desires to be the executioner for the defenseless ( the unborn, elderly and disabled)

She has declared herself God

Chilling....


5 posted on 01/23/2013 5:12:46 PM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Pinkbell; Reaganite Republican; Clintons Are White Trash; HerrBlucher; mgist; raptor22; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

6 posted on 01/23/2013 5:18:50 PM PST by narses
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To: Pinkbell; Reaganite Republican; Clintons Are White Trash; HerrBlucher; mgist; raptor22; ...
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7 posted on 01/23/2013 5:19:21 PM PST by narses
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To: Pinkbell

Translation, “I’d kill a baby, a two-year-old, or granny if I thought it would make my life happier.”

These people are psychopaths.


8 posted on 01/23/2013 5:19:32 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

Can’t wait to see logical gymnastics as sex selection abortions gain ground, and the inevitable day when prenatal testing identifies homosexuals in utero. All of a sudden it WON’T be purely a woman’s choice...


9 posted on 01/23/2013 5:22:43 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Pinkbell

Sometimes, I’m glad I’m so old.


10 posted on 01/23/2013 5:26:47 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Pinkbell
That's absolutely stunning!

Yet I know that throughout my own pregnancies, I never wavered
for a moment in the belief that I was carrying a human life
inside of me. I believe that’s what a fetus is: a human life.

Here’s the complicated reality in which we live: All life is not equal...
Yet a fetus can be a human life without having the same rights
as the woman in whose body it resides. She’s the boss. Her life
and what is right for her circumstances and her health should
automatically trump the rights of the non-autonomous entity
inside of her. Always.

I know women who have been relieved at their abortions and grieved
over their miscarriages. Why can’t we agree that how they felt
about their pregnancies was vastly different, but that it’s
pretty silly to pretend that what was growing inside of them
wasn’t the same? Fetuses aren’t selective like that. They don’t
qualify as human life only if they’re intended to be born.

Are you human only when you’re born? Only when you’re viable outside
of the womb? Are you less of a human life when you look like
a tadpole than when you can suck on your thumb?

My belief that life begins at conception is mine to cling to.

And I would put the life of a mother over the life of a fetus
every single time — even if I still need to acknowledge
my conviction that the fetus is indeed a life. A life worth sacrificing.

Honesty. It's a virtue, even when spoken by the Devil.
11 posted on 01/23/2013 5:28:17 PM PST by jobim (.)
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To: Pinkbell

From “Jihad Watch” (among many possible sources):

“And as one jihadist put it, “We love death. You love your life!” “

So it’s not like the author in question doesn’t have plenty of company.


12 posted on 01/23/2013 5:49:21 PM PST by Stosh
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To: Pinkbell

I guess she made it clear. Killing a human being is no big deal.


13 posted on 01/23/2013 5:59:34 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Pinkbell
Most of those who espouse a philosophy of 'Pro-choice'...cannot stand it when a woman chooses NOT to abort her child. That's a choice too isn't it?

This means they are not pro-life. They are pro-abortion.

14 posted on 01/23/2013 6:12:42 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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To: Pinkbell

Pro-aborts are so evil, it’s not worth wasting words on them; not even worth praying for them in my opinion. They’ve chosen their lover (in Satan), and he will “provide” for them after their deaths. It’s the woman who is post-abortive and regretful that needs prayers. It’s a tough place to be, but upon healing, there is no limit to how much she can love (unlike the scum that wrote this post).


15 posted on 01/23/2013 6:29:43 PM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Kozak

“Can’t wait to see logical gymnastics as sex selection abortions gain ground, and the inevitable day when prenatal testing identifies homosexuals in utero. All of a sudden it WON’T be purely a woman’s choice...”

It won’t matter. It’s all about their selfishness. There’s no loyalty to anyone who is of no use to them.


16 posted on 01/23/2013 6:56:11 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Pinkbell

if you ever run across a libtard that says, so what if abortion ends life?

just say,

well, so what if guns end lives?

and watch their heads explode.


17 posted on 01/23/2013 7:07:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Pinkbell
So, what have Repubs done about this all these years? A few years back, we had the WH, Senate, House and the SCOTUS... and NOTHING... we throw principled, unapologetic pro-life politicians like Murdock and Akins under the bus (and GREAT job there, giving us Senators McCaskill and Donnelly), then a so-called conservative SC Chief Justice saddles us with Obamacare and birth control mandates.

Just tired of the cowardice of this party...

18 posted on 01/23/2013 7:17:25 PM PST by PauldArco
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To: longfellowsmuse
She has declared herself God

Actually she has declared herself to be Satan, which she likely doesn't have a problem with. Not yet, at least. After swimming in the lake of fire for eons, she will understand that it was a problem.

19 posted on 01/23/2013 9:00:15 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Pinkbell

With Obama in office evil has become emboldened. It no longer thinks it has to hide in the closet, and is coming out. It isn’t that it has changed, it has just decided not to pretend anymore. It thinks it no longer needs to.


20 posted on 01/23/2013 9:05:01 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Pinkbell

Whenever a pro-abort person uses the moniker “anti-choice” to describe pro-lifers, I use that logic on them and call them “anti-life.” Silence ensues afterward.


21 posted on 01/24/2013 3:50:21 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Pinkbell

Only twenty comments so far? Have we gotten USED to this? This is a real-life horror film...


22 posted on 01/24/2013 7:47:46 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Pinkbell

Most pro-aborts don’t want to think of themselves as “evil” or as “murderers”.

In fact, most pro-aborts are HAD-aborts, who are trying to justify what they did and trying to maintain the illusion that they DIDN’T kill a baby, their own baby at that.


23 posted on 01/24/2013 7:50:22 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: jobim

“They don’t qualify as human life only if they’re intended to be born.”

Most “pro-choice” people try to walk this line. It doesn’t make any sense, of course, but the point is to avoid the guilt of being pro-MURDER.


24 posted on 01/24/2013 7:52:35 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

You can’t walk the line...you are either pro-life or pro-death. Observe the number of people gathering in Washington tomorrow...watch the media completely ignore them.


25 posted on 01/24/2013 7:56:46 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

She voices the majority opinion, In both the country and Church.


26 posted on 01/31/2013 6:40:47 PM PST by NoLibZone (It's time folks. It's time. Posting aint gonna cut it.)
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