Posted on 01/18/2013 3:14:58 PM PST by rawhide
The ‘driving with a suspended license’ chrage, later dismissed perhaps because of a clerical error?, was discovered after the assault! There is no excuse these cop thugs should not have been fired and brought up on criminal charges!
I told her what I was going to do, calmly, and then did it. But belive me I thought about it. I think my friend crying out for me from the car helped the situation. I had to make a decision.
What I should have done while I was driving to the hospital was dial 911 to let them know what was taking place but I honestly thought she had said to go ahead and was just following me there.
Agreed. They should be.
The speed limit around here is not 100 miles an hour.
There is nothing wrong with being a cop. Most cops are decidedly conservative.
Do you really think there is no societal need for law enforcement? Really?
No. I have frienda who are cops. They are great guys I’d trust with my life. But they also would never justify brutish behavior by saying “act like a criminal get treated like a criminal.” They would let the courts decide first, who is a criminal, and second, how they should be treated.
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Yeah, she got off easy. She could have been tazed like these pregnant women were over traffic stops:
The problem is, talking on a cellphone, and most other minor traffic violations, aren’t arrestable offenses. You can detain a citizen to give them a citation for something like that, but it doesn’t merit an arrest.
However, if an officer approaches the traffic stop in a confrontational way, hands on weapon, and barking orders, the citizen might fail to comply with something quick enough, or to the satisfaction of the officer. Then, they can claim “resisting arrest” or some such charge, and have much more leeway to deal with their suspect.
Now, how someone can be resisting arrest for a non-arrestable offense is a matter that might fascinate a Zen Buddhist, but doesn’t seem to phase our judicial system.
I feel safer just knowing this. (do I really need the sarc tags?)
I'm sure you don't mean that if you gave it just a little thought. A person you are trying to arrest is attacking you, trying to get your gun, biting you, and you are just going to be nice to him?
What was it you were saying again?"
Our local Cops did the same AFTER he was on the force and couldn't drive because of the DUI after 4 years time.
Why did they finally get rid of him? Because the State Bureau was finishing their investigation and they were going to send him to jail for trafficking in Oxy and other prescription Meds. Why did he go quietly Because the State Bureau told him if he left quietly he could keep part of his pension.
What was it you were saying again?
In any jurisdiction in the western world a man who attacked and hogtied a woman has already harmed her and has committed the felony of assault. You might find some shred of cover to excuse or mitigate this behavior but these cops should be behind bars.
Again, there are a lot of factors an officer has to consider (I’m not addressing this situation involving the pregnant lady, but just speaking rhetorically.) When there is a difference in size, sex, obvious strength, that is definitely a factor. A woman officer can definitely ratchet up the threat potential assessment when a non-compliant bouncer-sized hulk is the offender and no other officers are around. Not the same with a male officer interacting with a woman offender.
Nighttime, environment, weather, temperature or other weakening factors all play into what the officer does.
None of these extenuating factor seemed to be present here. Unless something happened off camera, before the contact with the officers, this was outright abuse.
Craven animals doing what craven animals do.
I am glad she got paid. But those cops should be out of a job.
Anytime a city or State has to pay a victim for police abuse, those officers should automatically be fired, at the least. They should be prosecuted when they commit crimes against citizens. This was a crime of assault and battery. She presented no danger to them. Her hands were clearly in view. They were mad because she did not turn immediately around as bellowed (which made no sense) so they attacked her like mad dogs. Any excuse for brutality will do for the bad apples.
It’s a good thing she wasn’t a 15 year old girl slightly kicked her shoes towards a police officer. She could have been shot for that.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ToVlIXLqk4
I understand that those are all practical safety considerations that need to be subjective, and so they’re left to the officer’s discretion. However, by doing so, we put the individual police officer in a position where they can create a situation that allows them to overstep the line, and trample on someone’s liberties without just cause.
So, there’s always going to be a temptation to use that power, and there are any number of ways to justify it if anyone complains. If it ever does go to court, the court will favor the officer’s testimony over the citizen’s, so only when there is a video tape like this will there be serious consequences.
The practical consequences are that, even though we technically have 4th amendment protections, any police officer can choose to remove those protections from us at any time. I cannot go about in public, doing nothing illegal, and have any surety that a random officer will not decide to use these tricks of the trade to justify a search of me or my property, and the majority of the time they would get away with it.
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