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Healthcare providers to provide gun safety tips?
01-16-13 | Me

Posted on 01/16/2013 12:36:37 PM PST by Kevin in California

I've owned firearms and hunted for 30+ years of my life and now some idiot from Kaiser Permanente is going to school me on gun safety tips?

Really?? I feel so much better now!

FUBO!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; obamacareguns; obamagunpresser; secondamendment
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To: BuffaloJack

If my Dr. asks me if I have any guns in my house, I’ll tell him he wants to find out, come crawling through my daughter’s window at 3AM and your question will be answered. Case closed…


21 posted on 01/16/2013 1:13:15 PM PST by Kevin in California
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To: Tenacious 1

“But there is public confusion about whether federal law prohibits such reports about threats of violence”

I am assuming that CDC along with anti-gun medical associations will eventually define “threat of violence” as the condition of owning a firearm.

“Protect the rights of health care providers to talk to their patients about gun safety:”

I believe that every doctor who wants to talk to a patient about gun safety should be certified to do so by the NRA.

Every doctor should be as comfortable with a pistol, rifle, shotgun and have familiarity with their anatomy, physiology and safe handling before they can assess patients about it.

After all, we have to be certified to practice our medical speciality, and also have to be certified in Child/Domestic Abuse and Infection Control as a prerequisite for our licensure.

(I am a practicing physician in New York and a member of the NRA)


22 posted on 01/16/2013 1:14:43 PM PST by paterfamilias
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To: Osage Orange

you’d probably be right on numbers, but I practice in the south and I’m positive it’s pretty high. People forget the government has been messing with us long before they started on the rest of the public. We are pretty good at dealing with the harrassment


23 posted on 01/16/2013 1:31:51 PM PST by arkfreepdom
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To: arkfreepdom; All

It’s OK to lie to your doc.


24 posted on 01/16/2013 1:44:22 PM PST by x1stcav (Man up! We're all going to have to become Samuel Whittemores.)
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To: arkfreepdom
It's high around here too....

Although I know a few liberal socialist Dim Doc's around here too.....

Yep...the Fed's mess with Health Care Provider's all the time...and have been forever.

25 posted on 01/16/2013 1:51:48 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Kevin in California

I have not forgotten that some healthcare providers belong to unions. How convenient.


26 posted on 01/16/2013 2:12:25 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Kevin in California
Saw the last bit of text on your statement...started thinking...

Keep a magic marker in your pocket, and if you suddenly 'feel an urge' to scrawl FUBO & Molon Labe on something,
well...just consider it as 'getting the message out there'!
Its something that I'm probably going to start doing...
27 posted on 01/16/2013 2:24:48 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: Kevin in California

You are far more likely to be injured or killed from medical malpractice than you are with a gun.


28 posted on 01/16/2013 2:50:00 PM PST by idkfa
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To: Tenacious 1

“I am coaching my children to not talk about guns we own, keep in the house, shoot, etc.”

We don’t talk about them anymore either - well maybe to other known gun owners - but never in general conversation anymore.

Sadly - Amerika is now at the point where patriots have to practice op-sec with other Americans - sad.


29 posted on 01/16/2013 2:51:20 PM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: I want the USA back

That’s the way gubmint works. They’re always expanding. Sometimes in giant strides like passing Obamacare, more often by push, push, pushing where they already have a little penetration. There are all these little points of contact between the individual and the state, and they manage always to maximize the amount of impact they have through them, no matter how modestly they began.

So government builds roads. It stands to reason they should be able to police them. We don’t want them interrupting us willy-nilly, but also don’t want cars to be like homes. Can’t get a warrant in time to be useful. Hence cops are in constant contact with regular citizens for mundane reasons. They use this opportunity to ask you stupid questions, but also to run your id through a computer. To always run you through the gubmint database. Because this is their chance to catch you, no matter all you did was drive a little too fast. Or not even that, if it’s a checkpoint and they don’t even need probable cause.

Then there’s the census, which constitutionally only needs to know how many people live with you and maybe a couple other things. But this is their foot in the door to get precious information. Their chance to adjust properly the Welfare State to the people’s needs, or rather gives them an excuse to shove more welfare down our throats. They ask such ridiculous questions, for such seemingly useless information, and pretend like those who refuse to answer are criminals.

Then there’s the doctor’s office, and I don’t know where to start. It’s just a panopoly of information they pry out of you, and soon there won’t be any such thing as privacy. Here they don’t even try to mitigate it, as traffic nosiness restricts itself as I said to when they have reason to pull you over or when they have set up a checkpoint, or the census which only happens once a decade.


30 posted on 01/16/2013 2:53:26 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: 45semi

IMO the place to begin teaching “gun safety” is in the school. Not by some nut job professor. Guns have been in America’s life from the early beginning. Guns are nothing more than tools and teaching how to safely use them should be taught in every school. For those of us old enough to remember when were we in high school shop class, we were taught how to safely use “tools” (hammers, chisels, power saws, etc.) We were taught also to respect those tools. How to care for them, store them and keep them in good working order. Guns are no different. The more kids learn about them and how to treat and care for them, the more safely they will handle them. Improper use of a tool can be catastrophic.


31 posted on 01/16/2013 2:58:17 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: paterfamilias

There is such a thing as the right of healthcare peddlers to talk about gun safety? What about my right to tell them to shut their traps? Even on such issues as they may have limited expertise I tell them to go sick an egg. Because it’s not their business to tell me how to be healthy but to patch me up to continue whatever life I decide to live.

They don’t tell me what to think at the bookstore, or how to dress at the clothing store. They just offer whatever services for which I’m willing to pay. The ones who’d most benefit from advice on his to live healthily according to the arbitrary fads of health mechanics, the great unwashed, are too stupid or uninterested to listen, anyway. Meanwhile I have to listen to attempted conscientiousness from otherwise intelligent people who’d be about as well off following common sense.


32 posted on 01/16/2013 3:03:05 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Kevin in California

Do not ever admit to anyone in the medical profession that you ever feel anything other than normal mentally. Do not ever let them know you have weapons of any sort. If you do, you will be recorded and you will be one of the first to lose your rights, or lose your life fighting for those rights.


33 posted on 01/16/2013 3:03:23 PM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: arkfreepdom

Have you ever considered the possibility that HHS will send ‘secret shoppers’ to doctor’s offices, to make sure they are correctly interrogated about guns and ‘counseled’ on end of life decisions.

I’m serious.


34 posted on 01/16/2013 3:14:27 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Tenacious 1

Pretty soon we will all be talking like lawyers: “Doctor, I respect your 1st Amendment rights, but in order to protect my 2nd Amendment rights I exercise my 5th Amendment rights.”


35 posted on 01/16/2013 3:14:37 PM PST by FB2
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To: Kevin in California

Pretty soon we will all be talking like lawyers: “Doctor, I respect your 1st Amendment rights, but in order to protect my 2nd Amendment rights I exercise my 5th Amendment rights.”


36 posted on 01/16/2013 3:15:25 PM PST by FB2
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To: arkfreepdom

and how about the youngish female physician assistants? Will they ask?


37 posted on 01/16/2013 3:23:04 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Kevin in California

About as smart as Gun & Ammo magazine running articles on medicine and surgery.


38 posted on 01/16/2013 3:31:58 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Tublecane

I don’t ask my patients about firearms, unless we are discussing the relative attributes of one over another.

However, if there were to be pressure put on MD’s to discuss such topics (by the Feds), I would counsel a patient to ask, “Doctor, what are your qualifications to discuss firearm safety?”

If the doctor had no qualifications, the patient could rightly refuse to discuss the subject without causing a scene.

I think the NRA should be pro-active and educate doctors in gun safety.


39 posted on 01/16/2013 4:06:57 PM PST by paterfamilias
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To: Kevin in California

I read your post to my husband because it made me laugh. He then proceeded to tell me about his boss’s recent visit with his long-time physician. The physician asked John whether he had guns in his house, and John was confused, because his physician had never asked him about his guns before. John really didn’t know what to say, so he asked the Doc, “Why? Do you want to buy one?” The Doc laughed at John’s response, but did say that he was required to ask.


40 posted on 01/16/2013 8:17:26 PM PST by MNGal
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