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Lance Armstrong and the Sociopath’s Dilemma: When Honesty Is No Longer Ethical (Clinton)
ethics alarms ^ | 1-2013

Posted on 01/15/2013 9:37:37 AM PST by doug from upland

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Like Clinton, Armstrong used money and power and attorneys to destroy those who came forward to tell the truth.
1 posted on 01/15/2013 9:37:45 AM PST by doug from upland
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Of course, both Clinton and Armstrong were defended by scumbag attorney Mark Fabiani.


2 posted on 01/15/2013 9:41:09 AM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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Lance Armstrong is a good example of why no one should ascribe hero status to a sports figure.


3 posted on 01/15/2013 9:44:42 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: doug from upland

Excellent piece.


4 posted on 01/15/2013 9:44:55 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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If there were ever any clean cyclists, could they not claim Armstrong stole fame & fortune from them by cheating and sue him for millions?

We now hear Lance wants to start to improve his image by becoming a snitch.

5 posted on 01/15/2013 9:52:33 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: doug from upland

Hola, Amigo!

Power, Money, Influence/Prestige, Celebrity...

There isn’t much difference these days between politicians, Hollywood types and sport hereos...

Lie, cheat, steal, and kill...and yet the unwashed masses worship them and constantly reward their bad behaviour.

As always, stay safe!

LB


6 posted on 01/15/2013 9:53:35 AM PST by LadyBuck (Strangeways, here we come....)
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To: doug from upland

The lie is the weapon used most often by the criminal.


7 posted on 01/15/2013 9:57:00 AM PST by PGalt
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To: doug from upland

Add Stephen Glass to this list.


8 posted on 01/15/2013 10:06:34 AM PST by wideawake
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If there were ever any clean cyclists, could they not claim Armstrong stole fame & fortune from them by cheating and sue him for millions?

That's the rub, isn't it? Are there any "clean" cyclists out there, or is it just a matter of who can avoid detection? And it's not really limited to cycling, either -- PEDs and doping are rampant in almost every sport. At what point is "cheating" just a means of keeping up with everyone else?

9 posted on 01/15/2013 10:09:13 AM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: doug from upland

Armstrong is a militant atheist who blamed God for his cancer and didn’t give Him credit when he was cured.


10 posted on 01/15/2013 10:09:34 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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As far as I know Pete Rose never bet against his own team , and never threw a game.

Can anybody prove he did?


11 posted on 01/15/2013 10:15:15 AM PST by Venturer
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I noticed that Rose now has a reality show called something like “Hits and Mrs.” —looks pathetic like most of these shows which bring you right inside the house.


12 posted on 01/15/2013 10:16:16 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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I accept that he never bet against his team. But maybe he should not have violated the rules and lied to everyone for so many years.

Hope I am not misunderstanding your intent, but if you are defending him because he was a great baseball player and you are a fan of his, I guess you will have to give a pass to those who defend scumbag Clinton because they are fans of his.

Cheating scumbags and liars are cheating scumbags and liars in any profession.


13 posted on 01/15/2013 10:21:04 AM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: fatnotlazy
Famous people are almost guaranteed not to deserve hero status, because the vast majority of famous people have sought out fame as a life goal.

The personality traits of those who deeply desire and pursue fame are, to put it mildly, unattractive.

14 posted on 01/15/2013 10:27:17 AM PST by wideawake
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It is no less unethical if he did not bet against his own team. He was the coach, calling the shots. He may not have called on a certain player one game when he wasn’t betting to save him for another game the next night when he was betting.

This is especially critical if the player is a relief pitcher. He may not have bet against his team, but he may have tried a bit “harder” to win games that he bet on.


15 posted on 01/15/2013 10:29:20 AM PST by kailbo
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To: Venturer
These considerations are completely beside the point.

They were relevant before he started lying, not after.

16 posted on 01/15/2013 10:29:20 AM PST by wideawake
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[Armstrong] ... would do this, the people said, because he wants to persuade antidoping officials to restore his eligibility so he can resume his athletic career.”

He doesn't seriously believe this is going to work, does he? This isn't the average US Low Information Voter he's dealing with here.

17 posted on 01/15/2013 10:58:27 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: doug from upland

Great post - thanks.


18 posted on 01/15/2013 11:12:28 AM PST by GOPJ (Gang members breaking down your door- daughter&wife screaming help- Dems took your gun.Son's dead)
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As far as I know Pete Rose never bet against his own team , and never threw a game.

Can anybody prove he did?

Since he lied about betting on Baseball for years, the burden is not on the rest of us to prove his guilt. He has to prove he's telling the truth about this one thing, while he lied about every thing else. And I don't think that's possible, so screw him.

He's been made an example of, and an example he will stay, despite his apologists.

19 posted on 01/15/2013 11:14:14 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: doug from upland
Like Clinton, Armstrong used money and power and attorneys to destroy those who came forward to tell the truth.

Yes, it wasn't just that he lied, he used money and power to punish anyone who would expose his lie.

The way he treated his wife told me all I needed to know about this POS. The unfolding of present events just confirms it.

20 posted on 01/15/2013 11:16:13 AM PST by colorado tanker
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