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N.Y. Assembly Speaker Silver: ‘We Are Going To Ban Assault Weapons’
CBS New York ^ | 1/14/2013 | CBS

Posted on 01/14/2013 6:31:50 PM PST by FR_addict

ALBANY (CBSNewYork) – The New York State Legislature was poised Monday night to pass the first gun control measure following the Newtown school massacre. This as the vice president was set to unveil federal proposals to end gun violence on Tuesday.

Albany lawmakers have reportedly ironed out the kinks, allowing them to enact new gun control measures in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School mass shooting. Assuming the new bill passes — it was sent to both house of the Legislature on Monday night — it will turn into the toughest set of gun control laws in the country. ...

The new state legislation will:

* Limit ammunition clips to seven. It’s now 10

* Force gun owners to renew their licenses every five years

* Stiffen penalties for using a gun in the commission of a crime

* Stiffen penalties for bringing a gun on school property

* New restrictions on the assault weapons already owned by New Yorkers

“They will be basically not permitted to be transferred. They will be grandfathered in but not in terms of a transfer. There will be a registry,” Silver said.

(Excerpt) Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment
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To: FR_addict

Bill Reilich talks about his son’s friend dying from a gun shot. The person was mentally disturbed. This bill is not going to stop this person or the man with the box cutters, or the hammer, etc. The focus should be on the problems, (mental health) not guns.


181 posted on 01/15/2013 9:43:24 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict
James Tedisco - Most important books — Bible then the Constitution
182 posted on 01/15/2013 9:45:04 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict
James Tedisco - 2nd amendment for our defense and our protection from the government
183 posted on 01/15/2013 9:48:08 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict
769 murders in NY, possibly 5 would be covered by this bill.
31 people killed with hammers in NY.
184 posted on 01/15/2013 9:50:12 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

Supposedly, you don’t have to turn your gun in just register it. Same with over 10 round magazines, except have to turn in pre 1994 magazines.

Have to put only 7 rounds in the 10 round magazine.


185 posted on 01/15/2013 9:57:41 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict
Steven McLaughlin
Why are we limiting the law abiding citizen's ability to protect themselves.

In the Obama care bill

Government cannot collect any information relating to the lawful ownership of guns

So you're saying that the state can violate the law under Obama Care.

So increased penalties on crimes not in effect for 60 days, but cracking down on legal ownership immediately.

186 posted on 01/15/2013 10:05:30 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

Would some New Yorker please take these assholes to court.

Surely this “infringes” on your right to keep and bear arms?


187 posted on 01/15/2013 10:18:24 AM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: FR_addict

Looked up the law under ObamaCare:

http://wizbangblog.com/2013/01/10/obamacare-amendment-does-not-forbid-gun-and-ammo-registration/

“The problem is that Senate amendment 3276, Sec. 2716, part c.only relates to the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare):

(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS- A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relating to–`(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or`(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.`(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION- None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any information relating to–`(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;`(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or`(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.`(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS- None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.`(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM RATES OR ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE- A premium rate may not be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied, and a discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation in a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under any health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance upon–`(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition; or`(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition.`(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR INDIVIDUALS- No individual shall be required to disclose any information under any data collection activity authorized under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act relating to–`(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition; or`(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition.’.

In a nutshell, under Obamacare you can’t be required to provide information to doctors or health plans about legally owned guns, nor can your insurance rates be affected by such ownership. The government, in the execution of Obamacare, cannot collect information about or use information from other government databases about legally owned guns.”

Assuming that this site is right and it refers only to doctors or health plans, what about doctors who are going to diagnose whether we are crazy or not. Seems like NY is still violating the law to turn the person in for gun ownership.


188 posted on 01/15/2013 10:35:36 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: saleman

I’m already seeing some initial steps in this direction. I don’t know that any lawsuits will succeed in NY, but they will be filed. (We’ve been trying the Legal angle for a while in NY - the liberal judges make it difficult, but we keep trying. For instance, there’s a case in Westchester that challenges the downstate requirement of “just cause” for a licensed gun owner to carry. It’s been going through the courts for quite a while, step by step. The latest ruling was against the plaintiffs, but that wasn’t a surprise & it’s now being appealed.)


189 posted on 01/15/2013 10:41:44 AM PST by FreedFromNY
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To: saleman

I was impressed with the Republicans!

They did a good job, just not enough of them in the Assembly.


190 posted on 01/15/2013 10:43:15 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

Sheldon Silver is a mouthpiece for the lawsuit industry, too.


191 posted on 01/15/2013 10:56:46 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: Dutch Boy
I started the search for a job to leave NY to night.

Come to Florida. No state income tax and the best gun laws outside of Vermont and Alaska in the nation. They call us the Gun-shine State for a reason. Better weather here too.

192 posted on 01/15/2013 11:08:57 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: MDspinboyredux

In context!.. He has the GUTS to challenge the black imperial president!


193 posted on 01/15/2013 11:35:54 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: jjotto
You are bit confused.

1st, no Jew died during the days of darkness, the darkness occured only among the Egyptians (see vs.Ex.10:23)

2nd. The Jews are said to have come out in armies in Ex. 12:51).

Thus, Ex.13:18 tells us that they came out 'harnessed',(by fives) in other words, by ranks.

So, in the beginning of your comment you state that the Hebrew can only mean 'armed' but then state that it can also mean 'divided by five'.

That is how the KJB translated it, hence the word 'harnessed'.

Other modern versions have 'orderly ranks' (NKJ) or 'martial array'(NAU).

The point being they left in order not as a mob.

194 posted on 01/15/2013 11:46:33 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

I’m quoting Rashi.

The topic answered the question of a photo caption indicating Jews came out of Egypt armed.

Someone asked for the Biblical reference.

I responded, noting it was a Jewish translation at variance with the KJV.

I realize Jew-hating idol-worshippers have alternative views of straightforward Jewish texts.


195 posted on 01/15/2013 12:03:11 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: FR_addict

just clicked on an article link on my ‘My Yahoo’ page to this piece

New York set to pass nation’s toughest gun-control law
http://news.yahoo.com/ny-seals-1st-state-gun-laws-since-newtown-074653716.html

The pop-up window came up and said

fail

ironic.. or predictive?

They have pic with Cuomo and his mouth wide open pointing at someone .. probably his celebrity babefriend with her ar15 cupcake duster


196 posted on 01/15/2013 12:16:57 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: jughandle
Maybe this is what they mean by "clips".


197 posted on 01/15/2013 12:31:34 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: unixfox

Eeegghhh.. I’d ban those.


198 posted on 01/15/2013 2:34:51 PM PST by jughandle
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To: jjotto
You stated what the Hebrew was and then said the translation was based on 'context'.

The Hebrew can also refer to 'fives' as well, as you yourself noted.

So, what was being pointed out was not arms, but organization.

The KJB translation was correct.

Save the venom.

199 posted on 01/15/2013 2:51:20 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: FR_addict
The "Repukelican's" are partying....

They are dead to me.....

200 posted on 01/15/2013 2:55:39 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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