Posted on 01/14/2013 6:31:50 PM PST by FR_addict
ALBANY (CBSNewYork) – The New York State Legislature was poised Monday night to pass the first gun control measure following the Newtown school massacre. This as the vice president was set to unveil federal proposals to end gun violence on Tuesday.
Albany lawmakers have reportedly ironed out the kinks, allowing them to enact new gun control measures in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School mass shooting. Assuming the new bill passes — it was sent to both house of the Legislature on Monday night — it will turn into the toughest set of gun control laws in the country. ...
The new state legislation will:
* Limit ammunition clips to seven. It’s now 10
* Force gun owners to renew their licenses every five years
* Stiffen penalties for using a gun in the commission of a crime
* Stiffen penalties for bringing a gun on school property
* New restrictions on the assault weapons already owned by New Yorkers
“They will be basically not permitted to be transferred. They will be grandfathered in but not in terms of a transfer. There will be a registry,” Silver said.
(Excerpt) Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com ...
“It says “clips” not “magazines”...”
Yes. That may well be on purpose => using “clips” would outlaw an 8 round enbloc for an M1Garand...thereby making a garand an assault weapon by default?
So let’s get this straight: Some psychotic, drug-induced moron in CT did what he did, so NY politicians beoctch-slap all their law-abiding citizens for it and deny them their God-given rights? I have not doubt at all that liberalism is by far the worst chronic mental disease facing this country.
And, I still think the CT thing was a govt. black ops just so they could push this very agenda.
“They will be basically not permitted to be transferred. They will be grandfathered in but not in terms of a transfer. There will be a registry,”
So let me get this straight if I lived in New York my son would not be able to inherit my firearms after I die. Sounds to me like a mechanism for confiscation if you ask me.
What say everyone else?
“...What say everyone else?...”
Either fight or run. Millions of NY gun owners just need to totally ignore anything they pass, then fight to the death when the thugs show up...or move out of that god-forsaken place with the lesson learned that liberals are mentally diseased and mentally dysfunctional.
This song speaks to Ireland’s struggle for freedom, but much of it applies in America now...
A Nation Once Again
Written By Thomas Davis.
When boyhood’s fire was in my blood I read of ancient free men
For Greece and Rome who bravely stood three hundred men and three men
And then I prayed I yet might see our fetters rent in twain
And Ireland long a province be a nation once again
(Chorus)
A nation once again , a nation once again
And Ireland long a province be a nation once again
And from that time through wildest woe that hope has shone a far light
Nor could love’s brightest summer glow outshine that solemn starlight
It seemed to watch above my head in forum fields and fame
It’s angle voice sang ‘round my head a nation once again
(Chorus)
It whispered to that freedoms ark and service high and holy
Would be freedom found my feelings dark and passions vain or lowly
For freedom comes from Gods right hand and needs a godly train
And righteous men must make our land a nation once again
(Chorus)
So as I grew from boy to man I bent me to that bidding
My spirit of each selfish plan and cruel passion ridding
For thus I hope someday to aid oh can such hope be vain
When my dear country should be made a nation once again
“Sounds to me like a mechanism for confiscation if you ask me.”
That is exactly correct - this is the beginning of confiscation. If this law stands then it can be used as a template anywhere in the country. An incredible amount of honest citizens are now going to be defacto criminals. More people to put in jail! The USA (land of liberty) does have the most prisoners in the world, both numerically and per capita.
We are apparently building more prisons - to fit all the conservatives. And the patriot act will be used to hunt the conservatives down.
It makes me sick.
The NY State Senate is not a Republican majority anymore - it is a coalition that has 5 democrats to make it a majority.
I’m trapped in NY too.
“We need to join our fellow patriots in New York and get this law changed.”
I thank you once again.
Too bad a lot of FReepers here find pleasure in bashing NY gun-owners that are caught behind enemy lines.
“Three men in a room”
That’s how NY does the business of the people.
Sheldon Silver, the governor, and one other person.
[Governor, state senate speaker, state assembly speaker]
“Too bad a lot of FReepers here find pleasure in bashing NY gun-owners that are caught behind enemy lines.”
Yup. Check out this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2978240/posts?page=11
Freepers with computer graphic skills can you help us out?
I just received this.
Gun Owners of America
________________________________________
Biden Proposals Include Framework for Gun Registry and Confiscation
Up to 50-80% of all guns in circulation could be covered
Press reports now make it clear what Vice President Joe Biden’s gun control package will look like. Biden wants to impose:
* A Feinstein-like semi-auto ban which, according to experts who have done the counting, could ban up to 50% of all long guns currently in circulation and up to 80% of all handguns. Incidentally, if you wanted to keep the AR-15 you currently have, you would have to have a 6-month FBI background check, be fingerprinted, and get a machine gun-type license.
* The framework for national gun registration and confiscation by requiring every gun transaction to have a Brady Check.
* Supposed “toughening” of anti-gun trafficking measures, but without doing anything about the man responsible for allowing more gun trafficking than any other American — Attorney General Eric Holder (with his Fast and Furious program).
Let us backtrack and explain a couple of things: Increasingly ATF is going into gun dealers and xeroxing all of the 4473’s. This is illegal under McClure-Volkmer, but, in case you hadn’t noticed, Obama is increasingly ignoring the law when it inconveniences him.
Thus, if every gun transaction in America must have a Brady Check, every gun in America could presumably be fed into a national registration system by ATF by simply copying the 4473’s.
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo -– a man who gives you a pretty good idea of where gun control is going -– said, on the front page of the New York Times, that “confiscation” of firearms is an option. Obviously, having a registration list makes such a task much easier.
But what about so-called large-capacity magazines? Well, Republicans like Georgia’s Phil Gingrey have talked about the possibility of banning them. However, there are many problems with this.
First of all, millions of gun owners own these magazines for defensive purposes. To take away a homeowner’s right to choose these devices will simply make honest citizens less safe — especially, when they are facing multiple attackers.
Moreover, police have sometimes had to fire 20-30 rounds to finally stop just one drug-crazed individual from shooting. This just underscores why, quite often, good guys will need more than just six-shooters.
Second, there are tens of millions of high-capacity magazines in circulation. What are you going to do about them?
Third, changing magazines (or switching guns) is not a big deal for people like Adam Lanza.
Fourth — and perhaps most important –- this is a game the anti-gun zealots have played before: They threaten to kill the Second Amendment, and then negotiate their way back to “merely” eviscerating it.
Or put another way, they threaten to shoot us in the head to get us to agree to cutting off our fingers.
The only way that America’s gun owners are going to have peace over the next decade is to stop ALL gun control -– as we did after Columbine –- and then defeat compromising legislators running for reelection in 2014.
ACTION: Click here to contact your Senators and Congressmen. Demand that they oppose ALL gun control — including magazine limitations and universal background (registration) checks — being proposed by the Biden commission.
In the first day of a sixth month legislative session the N.Y.S. Senate passes “emergency” gun control. Three day review period promised by Cuomo, not a chance.
And now hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers own illegal guns and magazines -retroactively.
>And for many of us, this is the last straw - we’re actively seeking to get out of this hellhole, even if it means leaving family & roots behind, and taking a significant cut in pay. Nothing is worth this. For myself, I’m looking at Georgia...<
You just might be pleasantly surprised how far your money goes in a southern state.
“You apparently think everyone in NY is in lockstep with the lefties. You have no clue. there are vast areas of this state that are more “redneck” than “y’all”.”
Good retort.
But….
(I live next to New York, in Connecticut. Same situation as you.)
It doesn’t matter that NY state has a number of “right-minded” folks upstate.
What DOES matter (if one is an “upstater”, or if one lives here in CT) is that you live in a state where folks of your persuasion are hopelessly outnumbered by those of the left. Outnumbered by people who embrace a political outlook that is 180 degrees removed from your own.
What this means is that you live under their diktats, because you don’t have sufficient numbers with which to voice and influence public policy within your state. Like it or not (and I know you don’t), that’s the way it is, and that’s the way it’s gonna remain.
The solution? If you want to be able to live amongst those “of the same voice”, and to effectively exercise it again in the political arena?
It’s easy — move OUT of New York state, to a state in which the population is more congruent to the beliefs you embrace.
That’s the choice you have. I realize it may not be the best when viewed from your personal perspective.
But … so long as you, or I, or any other conservative chooses to remain in the deep blue states, we tacitly consent to be ruled by the left. Whether you (or I, or any other conservative) can endure that is a personal decision. But that’s how it shall be.
Having written that, the current gun-control legislative putsch is but one more indicator of the increasing philosophical divide between the red and blue states. For a contrast “from the right”, look at Wyoming, which has had proposals introduced in their legislature to actively oppose gun control efforts by the federal government.
How wide will the chasm grow, until the two sides break apart?
Nice. Kick a person when she’s down. I really needed the attitude this morning - thanks.
United we stand, divided we fall.
“It’s easy — move OUT of New York state, to a state in which the population is more congruent to the beliefs you embrace.”
We have a saying down here. You’ve probably heard it. Florida is paying the price for its accuracy tho.
“What’s the difference between a Yankee and a Damn Yankee?”
A Damn Yankee stays.
I’m always suspicious of anyone moving here to my little redneck corner of Central Alabama from one of the blue states. Damn Yankees move down here to get away from the hell hole they created and before you know it they’ve created the same thing wherever they move to. Just like locusts. Florida’s not gone yet but its headed that way.
Maybe if there was a good way to identify the “good ones”?
Heck, ya’ll all look alike
The NY Assembly is discussing the bill now. They can’t even figure out what it means!
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