Posted on 01/14/2013 6:31:50 PM PST by FR_addict
ALBANY (CBSNewYork) – The New York State Legislature was poised Monday night to pass the first gun control measure following the Newtown school massacre. This as the vice president was set to unveil federal proposals to end gun violence on Tuesday.
Albany lawmakers have reportedly ironed out the kinks, allowing them to enact new gun control measures in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School mass shooting. Assuming the new bill passes — it was sent to both house of the Legislature on Monday night — it will turn into the toughest set of gun control laws in the country. ...
The new state legislation will:
* Limit ammunition clips to seven. It’s now 10
* Force gun owners to renew their licenses every five years
* Stiffen penalties for using a gun in the commission of a crime
* Stiffen penalties for bringing a gun on school property
* New restrictions on the assault weapons already owned by New Yorkers
“They will be basically not permitted to be transferred. They will be grandfathered in but not in terms of a transfer. There will be a registry,” Silver said.
(Excerpt) Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com ...
That will help stop school shootings!
Because the Jews didn’t leave ‘armed’ they were led out by the Lord, who fought for them. (Ex.14:14).
He isn’t speaking of those who oppose it.
"Limit ammunition clips to seven. It’s now 10."
And that will do what? And what is a clip to you pussy dumbasses? You dipshits amaze me in your absolute fear of anything that shoots.
"Force gun owners to renew their licenses every five years."
And even with those requirements, they will still have guns. What a stupid requirement. You registration morons don't get it. The bad buys don't register their weapons and never will. They buy them in the back alleys.
"Stiffen penalties for using a gun in the commission of a crime." Really? Those laws have been on the books for years in every State. Again, idiots.
"Stiffen penalties for bringing a gun on school property."
Great idea. And while you're at it, make sure your Gun Free Zone sign includes the words, "We Are Defenseless - Kill us Now".
"New restrictions on the assault weapons already owned by New Yorkers."
No worries...geeze you people are beyond stupid. "They will be basically not permitted to be transferred. They will be grandfathered in but not in terms of a transfer. There will be a registry,” Silver said."
How old are you Silver? What 10 maybe 12 years old? You really think this is how it will work? 300 million guns are not going away. Grow up.
Every one of you anti self-defense controlling dumbasses need to have an intrusion in your home. You need to experience a home invasion and watch the bad guy put a round into your belly as you bleed out. I'm sick of you liberal asswholes. I hope you get one or two in the stomach and lay on floor feeling the pain as your blood builds within your liberal body.
Fury, I’ve searched and searched and can’t find the “who voted for this” information. Could you please send me a link?
Regards,
Isn't the administration's preferred phrasing "common sense proposals to end gun violence?" Why not go all the way?
My senator is Michael Ranzenhofer (NY District 61) and he voted against this bill, but there were enough Republican senators willing to vote for this unconstitutional bill to pass it by a 43-18 margin, betraying their constituents!
They haven’t been free for a long time.
What exactly does that have to do with NY State?
“Rep. Stockman of Texas is the other ‘George Washington’ of our day..”
Wow, I could’ve lived my entire life and never expected anyone to make that comparison.
A huge number of legal gun owners in NY State will now be criminals. They can’t use the gun because there are no 7 round clips. This endless ‘making of law’s makes everyone a criminal for something. Easier to round us up if we are all criminals.
Anyone thinking we aren’t in a tyranny now is absolutely nuts.
And, in case you are wondering, the patriot act wasn’t made for muslims, it was made for getting rid of conservatives. We have, very patriotically, sown the seeds of our own destruction.
Brilliant. So the Newtown killer would only have shot 14 kids instead of 20?
Thanks FR_addict.
OH NO! You’re going to ban bats? You mean there will be no more baseball in New York? I never thought I’d see the day! Guess now it will be the “Tampa Yankees” and the “Minneapolis Mets”.
http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S1422-2013
I believe the above link is the bill the NYS Senate has passed. All full capacity mags are banned, even those produced pre-94. Pump action rifles that accept detachable mags are now assault weapons. There is also a section on criminal possession of a firearms being having more than 10 guns but I may not be interpreting that correctly. Nasty stuff that make law abiding gunowners the scapegoats for the actions nutcases. What a freaking disgrace.
None of those proposed NY state laws will have any effect on gang shootings which is the real problem. And neither do the subsequent 100+ comments from FRs. That’s the power the MSM has over the discussion. Which is why there’s a reference to ghouls in my posting #14.
The sad thing is posting a direction such as #14 which puts the “Libs” on the defence gets completely ignored and subsequently we lose the issue . .
“I repeat, Hey New York, is it too cold for your big fat asses?”
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Tell your mommy that you’ll cut the yard and take out the garbage if she’ll come downstairs and read this to you....... then shut your f’ing mouth, DB.
http://www.americanwars.org/american-revolution-new-york.htm
I read the bill and New Yawkers get to say bye bye to their M1 Garands and the requisite en blanc "clips".
My husband and I bought a fixer upper in beautiful red Lee County in Florida. Hoping to be out of the hell hole of the northeast by summer. I’ve had just about enough.
It always helps to have made a good argument. When you do so, you weaken the resolve of your opponent, even if you lose the overall debate.
If they ever do ban and then attempt to confiscate, God forbid, I assume there will be resistance. At that point, it is crucial that those who resist have logically, calmly and coolly made the case already.
Absolutely a great idea. A large yellow Jewish Star with the words Gun Owner in the middle of it.
Great idea! We had been thinking along the same lines.
It’s time to Rope-a-Dope the GOPe.
If the people of NY allow this to transpire, then they no longer deserve to be free.
New York has been the cesspool of freedom over the past 100 years.
Obama is using the same tactics as Hitler. He goes after one group, then another, then another... until no one is left, but disarmed dispirited citizens
I hear you. I hope everyone here will be supportive of those who resist this destruction of our freedoms. Those who fight this head on will have way more courage than any keyboard warriors. Will we wish them God speed, or call them terrorists?
These are crazy times indeed. Maybe it’s time to remember the “Sons of Liberty.” (google it)
We have more than enough New Yorkers in Georgia already - please consider alternative states.
You can say the same thing about letting Obama have four more years. If the people of the United States allow Obama to win our presidency, then they no longer deserve to be free.
New York is part of this Republic. We all need to join in this fight. This is a fight for all the citizens. Our Constitution is being attacked.
“Thanks for the link. Some here are dismissing New York as deserving this,”
Those of us who live upstate can only do so much when there is a huge cancerous mass of Obama parasites and gun haters in NYC. That is who controls the legislature. And in NY all we have are RINO Repubs anyway.
The one thing I didnt see in this bill is a 7 round magazine restriction which was widely reported in the local media.
Divide and conquer. This is not meant to be a New York bashing thread, but a thread for ideas and to spread the word.
If anyone knows TeaParties in New York that will help get the word out, please post the information. How about the gun organizations? What are they going to do?
What is the best way to get this in the courts?
We need 2nd-amendment attorneys to help us?
We need the populace to wake up.
It is happening. Our rights are being stolen from us.
“We have more than enough New Yorkers in Georgia already - please consider alternative states.”
You apparently think everyone in NY is in lockstep with the lefties. You have no clue. there are vast areas of this state that are more “redneck” than “y’all”.
If I thought for a minute that everyone in Georgia is as ignorant and stupid as you I wouldn’t live there on a bet.
You are absolutely right. A lead pipe is an assault weapon so I guess we should ban all plumbing supplies. While we're at it, screwdrivers, hammers, nail guns, stapplers and letter openers should also be banned. Hey I got it, let's all move back into caves and start all freekin over! When is the nightmare going to end?
Doesn’t this violate McCulloch v. Maryland? Not that anyone in the FedGov would care when it comes to the 2A, but still...
Can you explain this ruling for us? Thanks.
We need to find out what groups will fight this and help them.
My memory is a little hazy on it, but I thought it was the Supreme Court case that established the Constitution as the supreme law of the land and that states couldn't usurp it with their own internal laws.
According to Wikipedia, I was almost right: "state action may not impede valid constitutional exercises of power by the Federal government." Of course, this decision seems to skirt the 10th Amendment, so...
Maybe I'm thinking of another SCOTUS case?
It’s time for Remington to take move their manufacturing plant and 1100 jobs out of New York to a state that actually respects the 2nd Amendment. The hypocrites in Albany don’t mind making and exporting guns to other states, while denying their own citizens the same right.
“It says “clips” not “magazines”...”
Yes. That may well be on purpose => using “clips” would outlaw an 8 round enbloc for an M1Garand...thereby making a garand an assault weapon by default?
So let’s get this straight: Some psychotic, drug-induced moron in CT did what he did, so NY politicians beoctch-slap all their law-abiding citizens for it and deny them their God-given rights? I have not doubt at all that liberalism is by far the worst chronic mental disease facing this country.
And, I still think the CT thing was a govt. black ops just so they could push this very agenda.
“They will be basically not permitted to be transferred. They will be grandfathered in but not in terms of a transfer. There will be a registry,”
So let me get this straight if I lived in New York my son would not be able to inherit my firearms after I die. Sounds to me like a mechanism for confiscation if you ask me.
What say everyone else?
“...What say everyone else?...”
Either fight or run. Millions of NY gun owners just need to totally ignore anything they pass, then fight to the death when the thugs show up...or move out of that god-forsaken place with the lesson learned that liberals are mentally diseased and mentally dysfunctional.
This song speaks to Ireland’s struggle for freedom, but much of it applies in America now...
A Nation Once Again
Written By Thomas Davis.
When boyhood’s fire was in my blood I read of ancient free men
For Greece and Rome who bravely stood three hundred men and three men
And then I prayed I yet might see our fetters rent in twain
And Ireland long a province be a nation once again
(Chorus)
A nation once again , a nation once again
And Ireland long a province be a nation once again
And from that time through wildest woe that hope has shone a far light
Nor could love’s brightest summer glow outshine that solemn starlight
It seemed to watch above my head in forum fields and fame
It’s angle voice sang ‘round my head a nation once again
(Chorus)
It whispered to that freedoms ark and service high and holy
Would be freedom found my feelings dark and passions vain or lowly
For freedom comes from Gods right hand and needs a godly train
And righteous men must make our land a nation once again
(Chorus)
So as I grew from boy to man I bent me to that bidding
My spirit of each selfish plan and cruel passion ridding
For thus I hope someday to aid oh can such hope be vain
When my dear country should be made a nation once again
“Sounds to me like a mechanism for confiscation if you ask me.”
That is exactly correct - this is the beginning of confiscation. If this law stands then it can be used as a template anywhere in the country. An incredible amount of honest citizens are now going to be defacto criminals. More people to put in jail! The USA (land of liberty) does have the most prisoners in the world, both numerically and per capita.
We are apparently building more prisons - to fit all the conservatives. And the patriot act will be used to hunt the conservatives down.
It makes me sick.
The NY State Senate is not a Republican majority anymore - it is a coalition that has 5 democrats to make it a majority.
I’m trapped in NY too.
“We need to join our fellow patriots in New York and get this law changed.”
I thank you once again.
Too bad a lot of FReepers here find pleasure in bashing NY gun-owners that are caught behind enemy lines.
“Three men in a room”
That’s how NY does the business of the people.
Sheldon Silver, the governor, and one other person.
[Governor, state senate speaker, state assembly speaker]
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