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Lance Armstrong confesses to Oprah Winfrey: report
NY Post ^ | 1/14/13 | AP

Posted on 01/14/2013 4:32:21 PM PST by jimbo123

A person familiar with the situation says Lance Armstrong confessed to Oprah Winfrey during an interview Monday that he used performance-enhancing drugs to win the Tour de France.

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To: eartrumpet

Too funny!


41 posted on 01/14/2013 6:23:34 PM PST by Doctor 2Brains
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To: jimbo123
AP story cries for an editor:
Diagnosed with testicular cancer in October 1996,
the disease soon spread to his lungs and brains.

42 posted on 01/14/2013 6:40:29 PM PST by NautiNurse (BOHICA)
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To: bigbob

That was a howler!


43 posted on 01/14/2013 6:43:28 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: jimbo123

I must say that the excuses for Lancey offered on these pages in the past couple months, offered oftentimes quite violently, by the members of the Lance and Cheryl Fan Club (I know the official name is a little out of date, but we’ll get around to updating it very soon) those excuses have been quite educational while being entertaining at almost the same time:

(1) Everybody does it (Klintonian.)

(2) Sports are shoe biz, therefore ethics don’t apply.

(3) Lancey passed all tests in the past 10 years.

The proponents of the last excuse must be saintly citizens who all come to full stops at all street STOP signs, drive under the posted speed limit all the time, and never ever cheated in high school (that is if they ever attended one), because they don’t seem to realize that the very purpose of cheating is, HOW SHOCKING, SHIRLEY! it is to, to... get away with it, imagine that!


44 posted on 01/14/2013 6:44:47 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Vision
Wasn't he already riding in Europe with Motorola and (then) under contract with Cofidis when he was diagnosed? I remember a dust up when they either cut him or offered him a no salary performance based contract and he quit which (I think) led to the Postal Service team.

My memory is shaky, but I think he had been moving up in status for a couple of years and aready won the Worlds and a few one day classics.

45 posted on 01/14/2013 6:46:59 PM PST by Baynative (Those that work for a living are now outnumbered by those that vote for a living.)
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To: Vision
Lance wasn't doping before his testicular cancer? That's not what I've heard...

From Selena Roberts and SI:

According to Dr. Donald Catlin’s estimate, his lab at UCLA performed more than two dozen tests of Armstrong between 1990 and 2000. In May 1999, USA Cycling sent a formal request to Catlin for past test results – specifically, testosterone-epitestosterone (T:E) ratios – for a cyclist identified by a source with knowledge of the request as Lance Armstrong. Three results indicated high T:E ratios, specifically: a 9.0-to-1 ratio from a sample collected on June 23, 1993; a 7.6-to-1 from July 7, 1994; and a 6.5-to-1 from June 4, 1996.

Roberts and Epstein report: “Most people have a ratio of 1-to-1. Prior to 2005, any ratio above 6.0-to-1 was considered abnormally high and evidence of doping; in 2005 that ratio was lowered to 4.0-to-1. But the high ratios had not led to sanctions. In his letter Catlin did not address the 6.5-to-1 result, but he wrote that he had attempted confirmation (a required step) on the 9.0-to-1 and 7.6-to-1 samples, and ‘in both cases the confirmation was unsuccessful and the samples were reported negative.’ ”

And don't forget the Strock v. USA Cycling/Rene Wenzel case.

46 posted on 01/14/2013 7:00:39 PM PST by Third Person (I'm in my prime.)
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To: Baynative
I believe you're correct.

I'll try to go back and read Hamilton's book. When the initial team was being put together for the TdF the group started racing in Europe, and they were getting killed. It took the group, collectively, a while to figure out why they rocked the US but were finishing last over there (they weren't doping). Since Armstrong was the star then maybe he wasn't involved with that.

Just curious, what race or TdF stage was it when that iconic rider blew past Armtsrong like he was standing still?

47 posted on 01/14/2013 7:22:13 PM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: Third Person
According to Dr. Donald Catlin’s estimate, his lab at UCLA performed more than two dozen tests of Armstrong between 1990 and 2000. In May 1999, USA Cycling sent a formal request to Catlin for past test results – specifically, testosterone-epitestosterone (T:E) ratios – for a cyclist identified by a source with knowledge of the request as Lance Armstrong. Three results indicated high T:E ratios, specifically: a 9.0-to-1 ratio from a sample collected on June 23, 1993; a 7.6-to-1 from July 7, 1994; and a 6.5-to-1 from June 4, 1996.

Roberts and Epstein report: “Most people have a ratio of 1-to-1. Prior to 2005, any ratio above 6.0-to-1 was considered abnormally high and evidence of doping; in 2005 that ratio was lowered to 4.0-to-1. But the high ratios had not led to sanctions. In his letter Catlin did not address the 6.5-to-1 result, but he wrote that he had attempted confirmation (a required step) on the 9.0-to-1 and 7.6-to-1 samples, and ‘in both cases the confirmation was unsuccessful and the samples were reported negative.’ ”


Well done.
48 posted on 01/14/2013 7:24:19 PM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: Vision
Another interesting tidbit from the VeloNews Strock article:

"Strock and Kaiter have continuously maintained that Wenzel, team soigneur Angus Fraser and another U.S. team coach had on several occasions injected riders with cortisone, treated them with other steroids (corticoids and anabolics) and provided them with amphetamines and other possible performance-enhancing drugs during the 1990 season in the U.S. and Europe. That other U.S. coach remains unnamed in the suit, but former U.S. national team coach Chris Carmichael reportedly settled out-of-court with plaintiffs in the case in late 2000 or early 2001. Carmichael has repeatedly declined to comment on questions about an out-of-court settlement."

49 posted on 01/14/2013 7:38:12 PM PST by Third Person (I'm in my prime.)
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To: Morris70

Do you mean Tonya Harding?


50 posted on 01/14/2013 8:38:16 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: jimbo123

The biggest shame in it all is the atheletes that were denied a win because he cheated.

I imagine they will be going back to determine where he placed and move up those that finished behind him.

That may set the record straight but it will never make up for the terrible loss to those cyclists.

Lance Armstrong is absolute scum! He should go hide in a hole and never show his face again.


51 posted on 01/14/2013 9:08:02 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: FatherofFive
This is so sad. Armstrong was a model of American exceptionalism, and true grit in overcoming cancer.

I don't feel the least bit sorry for the cheating %$%##$%!!! and neither should you. His announcement does not deserve him the least bit of praise and Oprah should cancel his interview.

52 posted on 01/14/2013 9:11:40 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

You’d have to go pretty far down the standings to find riders who never got busted for doping.


53 posted on 01/14/2013 9:12:54 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: JaguarXKE

I think you might be on to something there!


54 posted on 01/14/2013 9:14:14 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Vision
"...rider blew past Armtsrong like he was standing still?"

WOW, I remember that because I used to have the video. It was Indurain and it was in a time trial. I can't remember which tour it was, but I'm gonna guess '94 or '95. In a book I read, it said that Armstrong couldn't get that experience off his mind and after the season he went to Indurain's home to ride with him and learn about his tempo technique. As big as he was, Indurain liked to use smaller gears and keep a higher tempo. Lance credited that technique with changing his ability to climb.

55 posted on 01/14/2013 9:16:25 PM PST by Baynative (Those that work for a living are now outnumbered by those that vote for a living.)
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To: FatherofFive

He’s the model of the American liberal. Get ahead by cheating and using the sympathy card.


56 posted on 01/14/2013 9:19:10 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Slings and Arrows

Yes. Apologies to Nancy.


57 posted on 01/14/2013 9:21:40 PM PST by Morris70
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Very sad if that is the situation.


58 posted on 01/14/2013 9:22:51 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

very sad if that is the situation


59 posted on 01/14/2013 9:23:36 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Vision
Look what I found -- it was '94. Big Mig came up fast and went away even faster.
60 posted on 01/14/2013 9:30:32 PM PST by Baynative (Those that work for a living are now outnumbered by those that vote for a living.)
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