Skip to comments.Experts Say All Computer Users Should Disable Java ASAP
Posted on 01/12/2013 4:23:31 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
Numerous security experts are warning that all computer users should disable Java on their systems immediately. Earlier this week, researchers discovered a vulnerability in Java that was being actively exploited.
InformationWeek's Matthew J. Schwartz reported, "Security experts have a message for all businesses: Disable Java now, and keep it disabled. That's their advice message after the discovery Thursday of yet another zero-day Java vulnerability, as well as a number of attacks that are already exploiting the flaw to run arbitrary code on PCs."
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I wish instead of just discovering these flaws they would discover who is using these flaws and punish them severely.
What is lost, or unworkable, if I disable Java ?
What does the developer of Java have to say about this?
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
I think they are working on a fix....
I checked and Java is already disabled on my computer..I have read several articles about this and am considering uninstalling Java completely.
I put Java in search and clicked on news for more information.
Oracle is keeping silent so far, though the problem is very serious.
Much more informative article.
I went into Plugins for Firefox and it was already disabled with a message that it has a known vulnerability. Not sure if it did it on it’s own when I upgraded to v18.0.
OOPS I had checked IE but not Firefox..I had the same message..I use both.
Mine too, thats what I love about Firefox, it stays ahead of the curve.
In order to protect you, Firefox has stopped the Java plugin from running automatically because it has a security issue. However, you can still use Java on trusted sites if necessary. We’ll show you how.
U.S. Department of Homeland Security warning
Mozilla Security blog post on this issue
Table of Contents
Activate Java once
Always activate Java for a site
Warning: You should only attempt this on sites you trust.
Activate Java once
When you see the “Click here to activate” message, simply click it to load the Java content normally.
Note: The next time you visit the site or any other that uses Java you will see this message again.
Now we get to standby and watch the Government demonize Oracle into submission, until they give up whatever it is the Government wants from them... control of all computers?
I have the same question. What is Java for and what wont work when it is disabled?
How do you disaable it?
OK. I’ve unplugged the coffee maker. Now what?
No Coffee ?
Do you have your personal affairs in order ?
Insurance policies paid up, review will, visited grandkids .. even the little snots you hate, ???
Now if you work for a private company and use your browser thru a VPN and that company has spent millions on java apps to do real work (which is my case) then don't disable.
I use NoScript on Firefox so I have everything off from the get go and can selectively enable. What’s interesting is you then see the multitude of stuff running on some sites. One of the worst offenders of places I go to read stuff? The Blaze.
Look at this way, security experts would tell you that a house would be safer from POSSIBLE forced entry if it had no windows at all. It would be safer yet unlivable.....
I can’t play POGO Scrabble anymore. It needs JAVA. I was probably spending way too much time beating their robots anyway. . .
Link at post 1 on this thread.
Thank you. What if I just remove it completely from my control panel? It looks like I have two versions totally about 98 mb each.
I have no idea, I am not that computer literate. I did uninstall it from my computer and its speed seemed to increase, but I don’t know for sure if it did. Maybe it just seems that way.
Click on the following link to see if you have java installed. If you do and you want to disable it, click the ‘Disable Java’ option on that web page and follow the instructions.
Java is client code, a program on your PC that allows some features of Web pages to work. Oracle uses it for their business application delivery.
The average PC user may not notice it missing.
In fact I’m prsenting a CRP Monday for Oracle applications. Disabling Java is not an option, but will be a discussion point no doubt.
This is a little confusing. It isn’t Java that needs to be disabled; it’s support for running Java applets in the browser that needs to be disabled. Or, as one of the linked articles explains, you can raise the applet security level to “high,” which will warn you before running an unsigned applet.
should say “currently it is more risky with Java enabled, but...”
I’m not going to disable anything based up U.S. Department of Homeland Security. They are the enemy folks. Do what you want, but trusting HS is about as stupid as sleeping with a cobra in your bed.
Java is a virtual machine to run programs inside your computer. That can be inside the browser or on top of the OS. If inside the browser the browser can download some malicious code and exploit your box. But to do that you have to surf to a malicious website that hosts that code. If Java is not in your browser but only on your OS, then it means you have to download the code and run just like downloading and running any other application.
Keep in mind there are other VM's and interpreters with vulnerabilities (past and future). Java is not the problem here, it is people surfing to malicious websites and downloading and running malicious code.
Point out exactly where I said I was doing anything stupid or other wise
The security tab in my Java control panel looks nothing like what is shown in the link. When I select the security tab I only have information on certificates.
As full disclosure for the thread, I worked with Java extensively up until about 10 years ago. Since then, not much and don't have any interest in whether Java stays viable or not.
Can I use the ..script and not java?
running Macs if that makes a difference.
My neighbor had ransomware last week and neither malware bytes trend etc scans removed it all. I found it using process explorer and winpatrol (and prayer). Both should come with windows.
We noted yesterday that the two most popular Web threat tools used by hackers to distribute malware, the BlackHole Exploit Kit (BHEK) and the Cool Exploit Kit (CEK), already included the latest Java exploit. Before we dive in to how CEK is already being used to push ransomware, heres a bit of background information.
Created by the same guy, CEK is the high-end version of BHEK ($10,000 per month versus $1,500 per year). 0-day exploits are first incorporated into the former and only added into the latter once they have been disclosed.
For those who dont know, ransomware is a very profitable type of threat which restricts access to the computer it infects, spamming the user with prompts that demand a ransom paid for functionality to be reinstated. Access is limited either by encryption or locking the system.
CEK has been used to distribute ransomware before, but now its also using this latest Java vulnerability to do so. Trend Micro has detected the exploits in question as JAVA_EXPLOIT.RG and HTML_EXPLOIT.RG, as well as the ransomware payloads as Reveton (TROJ_REVETON.RG and TROJ_REVETON.RJ).
Reveton is one of the most common ransomware threats in existence today; these lock user systems and show spoofed notifications from local police agencies, Trend Micro says. These inform users that to unlock their system, they must pay a fine ranging from $200 to $300. -http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/01/11/latest-java-vulnerability-possible-since-oracle-didnt-properly-fix-old-one-now-pushing-ransomware/
The second setting is to increase the security level of the Java runtime, which can also be done in the same Security section of the Java Control Panel. The default security level is Medium, but you can increase this to High or Very High. At the High level, Java will prompt you for approval before running any unsigned Java code, and at the Very High level all Java code will require such approval, regardless of whether or not it is signed.- http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57563567-263/new-malware-exploiting-java-7-in-windows-and-unix-systems/
so....an applet...what is that? A bite sized apple?
I like apples
I run both Firefox and Chrome. I went to the pcmag link and did as instructed but Java didn’t show up as an option on either my Firefox addons or my Chrome plugins.
Is there another name I should be looking for?
Follow this link to find instructions to uninstall your current version.
You can either leave it like that or go back to my first link and choose to install the latest version of Java (it should prompt you). You will then get the Java Security Panel that will allow you to tailor your security level.
Try this link to tell you if you have java installed. Once for each browser.
There also should be a Java Control Panel in your Windows Control Panel if Java is installed.
I found no effect except ...
I don't go to FR as my homepage without logging in and password
I've been in "convenient" setting for FreeRepublic for 14 years and I have never had to re-enter my screen nasme nor password.
I can boot up in the morning, click "Internet" in my start-up, and go immediately to FR, which is my home page .. no log-in etc.
So, being lazy, I re-installed Java, checked up that I have the latest version and shut down, re-booted and I STILL have to log into FR.
I changed my setting to "more convenient" andf it didn't make a difference. NOW, I can't get into FR without logging in and password.
I don't like that.
Can anyone help me on this ?
Looks like I never had it installed. I run the Noscript add-on through Firefox in any event, and Chrome says Java isn’t present.
My search bar finds “Java Jive” by Manhattan Transfer in my iTunes but that’s about it.
Java malware exploit -- affecting unix:
From the article:
"...while so far has not focused on OS X, may be able to do so given OS X is largely similar to Unix and Java is cross-platform."
"Even though the exploit has not been seen in OS X, Apple has taken steps to block it by issuing an update to its built-in XProtect system to block the current version of the Java 7 runtime and require users install an as of yet unreleased version of the Java runtime (release b19). "
I keep Java in Safari on my OS X 10.5x turned off, yet occasionally need it to run some open-source image processing software developed by the NIH.
Does it appear to you that we Mac users should disable -- or even uninstall -- Java at this time?
Then if you are using Safari, install click-to-flash. It disables Flash until you ask for a specific flash program to run. It also disables Java until you ask for a specific Java applet to run. It is a time, cpu and battery saver, it disables crappy animated ads (except animated gifs which are harmless) and saves you from getting pwned by malicious flash which would be just as bad as getting pwned by malicious java.
Install click-to-flash. It will protect you from malicious flash which has and will continue to appear. It will also disable java applets until you click on them (knowing that you want them to execute). It saves time, battery, memory, and protects you all at the same time.
LOL! Great. Now I have to go listen to it. :-)
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