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Let's be Honest: Guns are just a small part of the USA's problems.
BI ^ | 12/23/2012 | Geoffrey Ingersoll

Posted on 01/09/2013 5:32:14 AM PST by GlockThe Vote

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To: GlockThe Vote
Right now we have to be smart about this. Fighting for felons and mentally ill people to own guns to me looks awful, regardless of the principals behind it and will be used to make a mockery of us.

I'll stand up for the felons, or if we're talking people who have served their sentences ex-felons:
For if in serving their sentence they are not fully restored to the body politic (voting, arms, all things a law abiding citizen may do) then we have created a secondary class of citizen -- moreover, it is infinitely worse, because any such rights are dependent upon the government, which one must always consider as being willing and able to abuse its power.

Moreover, if one is never able to pay for one's "debt to society" then one can never assume that the punishment for any 'infraction' will EVER be paid. The logical endpoint of such policies: your one parking ticket, years ago, may still be used to deny you help or exercise of 'rights'/privileges... IOW to control you.

Do you think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power the government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
-- Ayn Rand, "Atlas Shrugged"
81 posted on 01/09/2013 12:15:52 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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I’m thinking of murders and rapists let out on parole.


82 posted on 01/09/2013 12:21:27 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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I’m thinking of murders and rapists let out on parole.

That's not really the same thing, now is it. (Parole vs. Sentence Served)
But even that wouldn't be an issue if we actually treated those Capital crimes with Capital punishment.

83 posted on 01/09/2013 12:36:05 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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