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1 posted on 01/06/2013 3:12:14 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Don’t worry,

John Roberts will surely put a stop to this.


2 posted on 01/06/2013 3:13:53 PM PST by digger48
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To: Red Steel

So what...if no one does anything to stop these facisti?


3 posted on 01/06/2013 3:24:08 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: Red Steel

I hope he knows that is a meaningless statement.


4 posted on 01/06/2013 3:24:13 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Red Steel

Cruz is fresh outta the box. Wait till some of the old timers ‘splain to him howz it’s gonna be. He’ll come around.


5 posted on 01/06/2013 3:24:19 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Red Steel

The Democrats wants to throw up all these paper barriers and then crow how they have made people safe. I am reminded of a Texas senator who boasted about his measures to help teachers, but which had no positive effect at all. That is, to persuade us of his good intentions.


6 posted on 01/06/2013 3:25:53 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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The article says he doesn’t support “most” new firearm legislation. So, what does he support?


9 posted on 01/06/2013 3:35:36 PM PST by wastedyears (My life mostly completely turned around in a few weeks. Now to leave NY...)
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To: Red Steel

There is no video at your link. Can it be viewed on another site?


11 posted on 01/06/2013 3:38:13 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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He says gun control measures are Unconstitutional. Why are you people berating him for doing the right thing?

Be skeptical, but give the guy credit.


13 posted on 01/06/2013 3:47:22 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red Steel

Seems to me that proposing legislation that is an infringement on our right to bear arms is not only unconstitutional but also a direct violation of the oath they took. Seems there should be legal remedy. Any attorneys have an opinion?


18 posted on 01/06/2013 4:11:04 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Red Steel

Ted Cruz is a Senator.


19 posted on 01/06/2013 4:11:45 PM PST by Richard from IL
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To: Red Steel

I look for “citizen nullification” of such laws.


20 posted on 01/06/2013 4:12:18 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk
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The Second Amendment Pledge

I pledge to uphold defend and comply with the Second Amendment to the bill of rights in our United States constitution. Abiding by the original intent of our founding fathers in recognizing the preexisting God given, inalienable right of we the people together and individually to acquire, keep and bear arms.

The advance of technology does not alter nor affect this right. Any action, edict, decree or demand by any entity which negatively impacts or infringes on our right to modern state of the art arms and magazines is a treasonous criminal act, an unjust and an “illegal” law – null and void.

It is my highest duty and honor to respond to such a despotic lawless act with peaceful civil disobedience, contempt, defiance and resolute hyperactive resistance.


26 posted on 01/06/2013 4:34:46 PM PST by DrNo ("Facts are stubborn things..." John Adams)
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The words of a politician are worth nothing. Cruz could turn on a dime, then turn again, and again.


28 posted on 01/06/2013 4:53:30 PM PST by lurk
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To: Red Steel
The new proposals are unconstitutional, but so are the existing ones, and the feds know it.

See U.S. v. Dalton (1991) (HTML) (EPUB) Some choice quotes:

 

Finally, the government argues that the Gun Control Act, of which section 922(o) is a part, should not be viewed as repealing the National Firearms Act, citing a provision of the Gun Control Act passed in 1968 to that effect. The court in Rock Island Armory rejected the same government argument, observing that "the 1968 Congress cannot bind the Congress of 1986, which decided to ban transfer and possession of machineguns. P.L. 99-308, 100 Stat. 453 (May 19, 1986). Further, a Congressional declaration in 1968 does not solve a constitutional problem which arose in 1986. The ban enacted in 1986 and the government's refusal to accept registrations and tax payments, simply left the registration requirements with no constitutional basis."

773 F. Supp. at 126 (footnote omitted).

The government is correct that a statute is repealed by implication only when that statute and a later statute are irreconcilable. See, e.g., Morton v. Mancari, 417 U.S. 533, 549-51 (1974). In our view, however, that is exactly the situation here. Sections 5861(d) and (e) punish the failure to register a machinegun at the same time that the government refuses to accept this required registration due to the ban imposed by section 922(o). As a result of section 922(o), compliance with section 5861 is impossible.

Accordingly, we vacate Dalton's conviction and reverse with instructions to dismiss the indictment. In so doing, we recognize that the illegal possession of a machinegun is a most serious matter. However, it is precisely because this conduct raises such grave concerns that the government must exercise its prosecuting responsibility with care. The decision to proceed under an inapplicable statute has resulted in a constitutionally infirm conviction.

VACATED AND REMANDED.

The above case relied on U.S. v. Rock Island Armory (1991) (HTML) (EPUB)

Since its passage in 1934, the registration, taxation, and other requirements of the National Firearms Act ("NFA") have been upheld by the courts under the power of Congress to raise revenue. (Footnote 5) However, 18 U.S.C. sec. 922(o), which became effective on May 19, 1986, prohibits possession of machineguns, and thereby repealed or rendered unconstitutional the portions of the National Firearms Act which provided for the raising of revenue from the making, possession, and transfer of machineguns made after such date. As the government conceded at oral argument, the United States refuses to register or accept tax payments for the making or transfer of machineguns made after 1986. (Footnote 6) Thus, sec. 922(o), as applied to machineguns made after May 19, 1986, left the registration and other requirements of the National Firearms Act without any constitutional basis.

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The National Firearms Act was originally passed as a taxing statute under the authority of Nigro v. United States, 276 U.S. 332, 48 S.Ct. 388, 72 L.Ed. 600 (1928). See National Firearms Act: Hearings Before the Committee on Ways and Means, supra, at 101-02, 162. Upholding the Harrison Anti-Narcotic Act, Nigro noted:

"In interpreting the act, we must assume that it is a taxing measure, for otherwise it would be no law at all. If it is a mere act for the purpose of regulating and restraining the purchase of the opiate and other drugs, it is beyond the power of Congress and must be regarded as invalid ....

 

276 U.S. at 341, 48 S.Ct. at 390. The Court added:
Congress by merely calling an act a taxing act cannot make it a legitimate exercise of taxing power under sec. 8 of article I of the Federal Constitution, if in fact the words of the act show clearly its real purpose is otherwise." Id. at 353, 48 S.Ct. at 394.

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The prosecution argues that the NFA is still a tax act because criminal violators only will be assessed the "tax." Response to Defendant's Motion to Dismiss the Indictment at 6. This begs the question, because the government refuses to register the making or transfer of a post-1986 machinegun on behalf of an applicant who is not being prosecuted, and will not register any firearm even when it imposes a tax assessment. Thus, the registration requirement - which the government interprets as repealed by sec. 922(o) is still left without any tax nexus.

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In its motion to reconsider, the prosecution reiterates that the government can tax an item or activity which is illegal. Yet the very framing of this proposition presupposes that the activity can and will be taxed. By contrast, in the case at bar, the government interprets 18 U.S.C. sec. 922(o) to prevent the registration and taxation of post-1986 machineguns made for private purposes under the National Firearms Act, 26 U.S.C. sec. 5801 et seq.

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The enactment of 18 U.S.C. sec. 922(o) in 1986 removed the constitutional legitimacy of registration as an aid to tax collection. This is because the government interprets and enforces sec. 922(o) to disallow registration, and refuses to collect the tax. Farmer v. Higgins, 907 F.2d 1041, 1042-44 (11th Cir.1990), cert. denied, - U.S. - , III S.Ct. 753, 112 L.Ed.2d 773 (1991). Thus, sec. 922(o) undercut the constitutional basis of registration which had been the rule since Sonzinsky.

Finally, the prosecution quotes an enactment passed in 1968 that the provisions of Title I of the Gun Control Act shall not modify or affect the National Firearms Act. (Footnote 15) However, the 1968 Congress cannot bind the Congress of 1986, which decided to ban transfer and possession of machineguns. P.L. 99-308, 100 Stat. 453 (May 19, 1986). (Footnote 16) Further, a Congressional declaration in 1968 does not solve a constitutional problem which arose in 1986. The ban enacted in 1986, and the government's refusal to accept registrations and tax payments, simply left the registration requirements with no constitutional basis. It is the duty of the judiciary to declare such laws unconstitutional. Marbury v. Madison, I Cranch. 137, 176-77, 2 L.Ed. 60 (1803).

In sum, since enactment of 18 U.S.C. sec. 922(o), the Secretary has refused to accept any tax payments to make or transfer a machinegun made after May 19, 1986, to approve any such making or transfer, or to register any such machinegun. As applied to machineguns made and possessed after May 19, 1986, the registration and other requirements of the National Firearms Act, Chapter 53 of the Internal Revenue Code, no longer serve any revenue purpose, and are impliedly repealed or are unconstitutional. Accordingly, Counts l(a) and (b), 2, and 3 of the superseding indictment are

DISMISSED.

 

Now, ask yourself this: Why is it, that almost noone has heard of either of the above cases, which essentially throw out the 1934, 1968, and 1986 victim disarmament acts? The government never appealed either of these cases, and they have been cited elsewhere and to the best of my knowledge are still good caselaw.

Why does the even the NRA ignore something as potentially earthshaking as this?

Does precident and caselaw only matter when said caselaw is adverse to the interests of freedom?

30 posted on 01/06/2013 5:11:32 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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...Cruz replied, “I don’t think the proposals being discussed now make sense.” Senator Dianne Feinstein, he said, is proposing a national gun owner registry, which he disagrees with. “I don’t think the federal government has any business having a list of law-abiding citizens who choose to exercise their right to keep and bear arms,” Cruz added.

However, he said he would support an improvement in the quality of the federal gun database.

Sounds like typical politician / RINO doublespeak! Cruz disagrees with a "national gun registry" but would support an improvement in the "quality of the federal gun database".

Huh? Does that make any sense to anyone? He's opposed to a gun registry but wants to make improvements to a gun database? What's the difference? Registry vs Database?

Hey Cruz, how 'bout you just pour yourself a heeping cup of "not this shit again" and just STFU. You're barely sworn in as senator and it sounds like you're already backpedaling furiously from your conservative/tea party support base.

33 posted on 01/06/2013 5:46:15 PM PST by rcrngroup
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They’re doing tons of things that are unconstitutional.

And no one is stopping them.


39 posted on 01/06/2013 7:34:57 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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I'm puzzled by some people's notions of what the lifecycles of sociopaths or psychotics are.

We're talking here about denying a law-abiding person who is otherwise at liberty from exercising their right to keep and bear arms.

If such a person has not already been convicted of a felony, then what actions would justify denying them the right? The law now, I think, specifies that a person can be denied if they have ever been involuntarily committed.

The question that should be asked is, "What actions resulted in the commitment?".

If the actions would not have constituted a felony, then from whence comes the decision that the person will commit a felony in the future?

If the actions would have constituted a felony, then from whence comes the psychiatric decision to release them from commitment?

Treating psychiatry as if it is an exact science is a truly troubling concept.

I have personally expended thousands of dollars in extra expenses because of the liberal notion that society must take risks by returning felons or those who have been committed to freedom. Why am I the one to pay for managing these risks?

41 posted on 01/06/2013 8:06:32 PM PST by William Tell
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In another month or two, he’ll “realize” that gun control is a good thing.


44 posted on 01/06/2013 11:48:37 PM PST by nickcarraway
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