Skip to comments.Woman hiding with kids shoots intruder (GA)
Posted on 01/05/2013 6:29:28 AM PST by aimhigh
LOGANVILLE, Ga. A woman hiding in her attic with children shot an intruder multiple times before fleeing to safety Friday.
The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around 1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman. He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke in using a crowbar.
But the man eventually found the family. "The perpetrator opens that door. Of course, at that time he's staring at her, her two children and a .38 revolver,"
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Great argument for 30-round magazines, as well...
Or something larger caliber than a .38. But I believe a.38 is a revolver. 6 chambers, no magazine.
Even though the guy survived, you really can't fault the woman's shooting. She did a nice head-to-torso placement of her rounds and tagged him 5 of 6. He was apparently just lucky.
God bless this woman. I hope she understands that she was defending her family and I pray she has no problems from her actions.
This is what happens when the women is without a firearm:
From the article: "The woman then shot him five times, but he survived . . . Slater was shot in the face and neck".
You're right about the shotgun - this guy was still a danger after he was hit with five of her six shots (even though that is pretty good shooting under pressure). I like the stopping power of a 12 gauge whether loaded with a slug, buckshot, or just about anything else at this very short range. Hit a thug with five shots from a 12 gauge, including in the face and neck, and he's not probably going to drive away like this criminal did.
As for Bloomberg, I hope he wises up before his extended family (not his immediate family; they have armed guards) or someone he cares about is hurt because they are disarmed. I hope even more that he wises up before innocent citizens who are not related to him are hurt because of his anti-gun policies.
Great argument for the best hollow points you can buy.
Actually I hope the guy survives. Then we can see if he changes, having been shot within inches of his life.
Good news site. The stories are objective and well written.
This wife/mother did a fine job of protecting herself and her children. She is an example to all as to why our natural, God given right was incorporated into the Second Amendment. Self defense is just one of the Amendment’s purposes. Citizen protection against tyranny or a mob, recreation, hunting, collecting and other firearms related pursuits are as well.
Chapman said Slater has four exit wounds.
The guy must have an angel looking over his shoulder...Hope this turns him around because he needs to realize being shot six times VERY few people live...
Sounds like she used the old .38 round nose loads. Five Hornady Critical Defense +P loads would have put this guy down for good.
Why is everyone picking on a .38 6-shooter? Could’ve been a 5-shooter like mine, too. Did the job it had to do. The guy is on life support and was disabled. They don’t all have to be dead.
I have to disagree here.
This women could have easily called the police and had them take care of this instead of brandishing a dangerous firearm, which only made the house a target to start!
Way to turn an otherwise safe home into a wild west shootout!
I really had to turn my brain off in order to type that just so you know.
Then he is on the SSI dole. He is going to be expensive whatever happens to him.
But he was able to walk out of the house get in a car and start driving. Presumably he could have still done some damage to the women or kids had he been in the mind frame to do so. I don’t care if they die or not, but if I shoot someone I want them on the ground and incapacitated. Having said that the .38 was better than nothing and certainly saved their lives.
No kidding she swiss cheesed some major organs there, he should have been taking a dirt nap.
Let's hope he didn't survive the night. I'm sure the doctors have better things to do.
“Slater was shot in the face and neck”
If she had used a shotgun...
There wouldn’t be much of a face left, I’m guessing.
We used to refer to this phenomenon [mult life threatening wounds, with survival likely] as having a “high dirt ball titre.” The theory is: The less the positive contribution to society one makes, the harder they are to kill.
The 38’s are a good bullet, powerful and inexpensive but you really need the stopping power of hollow point, the regular 38 will go right through you as four of her 5 connecting shots did. The danger is that someone behind the guy getting shot could be shot also. The hollow points stay put in the perp and leave a very big hole and cause a lot of bleeding and most importantly, a lot of pain.
Got to hand it to the woman, bluffing that she would continue to shoot with an empty gun, fantastic. The only thing missing is her telling him to make her day.
It is my belief you should ALWAYS kill an intruder.
I wouldn’t want to think about what this person would do in 15 years when he’s released.
You are right; this was a good outcome. The criminal was stopped, and the family is uninjured. That is always an outcome to celebrate.
However, a dead criminal is cheaper for the community and safer for other families - who could otherwise be the next victims. The recidivism rate for criminals is quite high (this guy has six arrests since 2008 and just got out of prison in August), and dead solves that problem permanently, protecting my family and yours too. In the same situation as this woman, I would shoot to stop the threat and stop shooting as soon as the intruder no longer posed a threat. The difference is that I would be delivering a whole lot more muzzle energy, and my odds of stopping the threat permanently are much better.
Black on white crime. Obama’s people. This thug had been arrested six times since 2008. Why in the world is this guy on the streets. Now a woman that defended herself will have to live with this memory for the rest of her life, plus probably legal action and potentially being sued by the criminal. Too bad she didn’t kill this piece of human excrement.
With the organs damaged that would be some angle of entry wound for him to have been shot in the face and neck. I guess a neck wound could clip the top of a lung, but the stomach and liver? I think she probably hammered away on center mass - just like she should have.
She did good, no doubt about it.
Indeed, 3 rounds to vital organs in the torso and two rounds to the head.
He is extremely lucky no matter how you cut it. People will suggest more powerful calibers, but very few thugs would survive what she just delivered from a .38, and the fact of the matter is that we know that she can shoot that revolver.
This is a great argument for high capacity magazines. If she were not such a good shot, or if there were multiple perps, she would have needed more rounds. And she would have needed them in the gun, not the drawer.
Final note, this is the best written news article about home defense that I've ever read. It correctly identified the perp and the victim and it also correctly identified the critical nature of the shooter's actions. Kudos to this reporter.
So, what do YOU think would transpire during the 15 minutes it would take for the cops to get there?
You just won the stupidest post of the day and its only 9 am!
> It is my belief you should ALWAYS kill an intruder.
I wouldnt want to think about what this person would do in 15 years when hes released.
Or having to consider that you might have to defend yourself in a lawsuit because of the insane society we now live in where up is down and any attorney can change rationality, reality, and morality using his tongue filled with deception. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - Satan was only a musician part time; his real profession - an attorney
And you did not read his final sentence. It was untagged sarcasm, not his true opinion.
This is why you want an autoloader. 17 rounds would have done the job just fine. Glad it worked out for her though. If Diane Feinstein had her way the lady and her kids would be dead.
Don't blame the attorneys. They're simply doing their jobs. Blame the juries and judges that buy into the crap.
And select-fire AR-15s or M4's with short barrels without any law, permit, tax stamp, registration or government interference. Short barrels provide the maneuverability needed in tight spaces. As for the projectile used, AR-15 platforms have many options beyond 5.56mm.
This is from Wikipedia:
In 1977, NATO members signed an agreement to select a second, smaller caliber cartridge to replace the 7.62×51mm NATO cartridge. Of the cartridges tendered, the 5.56×45mm NATO was successful, but not the 55 gr M193 round used by the U.S. at that time. The wounds produced by the M193 round were so devastating that many consider it to be inhumane. Instead, the Belgian 62 gr SS109 round was chosen for standardization. The SS109 used a heavier bullet with a steel core and had a lower muzzle velocity for better long-range performance, specifically to meet a requirement that the bullet be able to penetrate through one side of a steel helmet at 600 meters. This requirement made the SS109 (M855) round less capable of fragmentation than the M193 and was considered more humane.
I reload both M193s and M855s, as well as a number of other 5.56 loads and for that matter a number of other calibers. The each have their own purpose. And yes, they each have their own high capacity magazines.
WARNING: the following link contains gory images of a M193 wound. http://forums.second-amendment.org/index.php?topic=4520.0
Even on 2nd read, my 1st reply stands and now includes “terrible writing skills”.
Sounds as if he was already well ventilated¿?
He said if Slater survives the night, doctors will try to operate in the morning to repair the damage
I hope the surgeon who operates is blind and operates with a chain saw.
I’ve loaded DRT ammo in my home defense pistols....Dynamic Research Technologies. Hollow point copper jacketed around a highly compressed amount of non-lead powder.
I’ve seen pictures of what happens to ‘mean’ when these things hit. It is utterly nasty. A big gaping bleeding hole, and no fragements for a doctor to remove to speak of. The compressed powder disperses thoughout the wound.
Another good thing; It’s ECO-FRIENDLY !!!! Haha...
Nice. Somehow the rest of us recognized it as sarcasm upon the first read. Perhaps the fault lies with your "terrible reading comprehension skills."
I cannot fault this woman one bit. But dang, she needs a bigger gun!
“Slater was shot in the face and neck... and suffers from punctured lungs, a punctured liver and a punctured stomach.”
Holy macanarsels, Margaret!
If the surgeons manage to patch up Humpty Dumpty, there, they need to get the Dr. Frankenstein award for truly impressive surgery.
Post of the day!
It was sarcasm without the /s tag....
DRT in the medical community stands for dead right there-appropriate don’t you think?
That’s what I was thinking; she was using target practice bullets.
Tip: It is best to read the entire post.
I just sent this to Feinstein by email...
Senator Feinstein: Please read this report and then be honest and tell the whole country that this woman didn’t need a gun to defend herself and her children. She deserved to own a gun to protect her family just as you did when your life was threatened. What on earth made you think you were any different from the millions of other people in this country who need to protect themselves from criminals?
I’ll be interested in learning your answer to that question. A neighbor in our county who shot and killed an intruder in her home in the spring of 2011 would also like an answer to that simple question. She was in her shower when she was attacked by an intruder and had presence of mind enough to grab a gun and empty it into the creep! What makes anyone’s life worth less than yours?