Posted on 01/04/2013 8:39:08 PM PST by neverdem
These crazed progressives seem to be fanatically possessed with defending their ideology of a socialists utopia, reminds of an adage General Patton said during WW2 of which I’m sure I won’t be able to quote precisely.
I have at work an actual piece of the Alaska pipeline, we have it capped at each end and its our 2,000 gallon diesel fuel tank, I know exactly how thick it is.
Some years ago a hunter for whatever reason managed to shoot that same type of steel of the pipeline way up around Fairbanks with a .338 Winchester Magnum, I have that in a Ruger bolt action and also a heavier still round the .375H&H.
The bullet punctured the pipeline, it had to be stopped.
Put a big crimp on a lot of others things up and down the chain. Stopping the flow is bad in the winter because it has to be heated to flow, and tankers cannot leave unless fully laden.
One solitary bullet, a hunting bullet. Not even from a black rifle.
Instead of a Tea Party that focuses on fiscal issues, we need NRA candidates who truly believe that the Bill of Rights are PEOPLE’s rights, not government; and that the founders meant our citizens to be equally armed with the militia so we can take away an unjust government.
All one has to do is read the Declaration of Independence to realize that only government with an armed citizenry was the goal for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
One aspect I haven’t seen addressed much is the “wussyfication” of the populace. We have been properly brainwashed to think that there will never be a need for any kind of violence.
Violence, in and of itself has become evil.
“Point is, we are not going to scare government with a few pop guns.”
Your enemy will carry to you all the weapons you need to defeat him - Mao Tsetung
That's why the idea of holing up in a cabin and waiting is stupid. The preppers all talk about hiding in the woods far from cities, but if the balloon goes up - and you will only know it has because you'll wake up one day and nobody will have internet or phone service - the jackboots are already already coming for you - the best strategy is for patriots to gear up and head TO the centers of power and take their fight to the head of the snake - whether he looks like a communist bureaucrat, or the heads of a cable news networks. You're going to die anyway, might as well take out the lizards who ordered the hit. Don't waste your ammo on the poor, ignorant slobs who outgun you and are only in it for the paycheck.
A government that blows up its own cities just to protect a few well heeled globalist parasites wont last very long.
James Madison, Federalist number 46
Great Post!
But to the point. Leave the pilot alone. In such a hypothetical situation, the insurgents just shoot every freeping politician who calls for "gun control". This is what the Lib politicians fear.
Incorrect. It means that the object being referred to is in good working order. In that time a clock would be referred to as "well regulated" because it worked properly. A well-regulated militia is a militia that has modern working weapons, good training and lots of practice. A well-regulated militia requires comms and coordination, not so much command and control.
Thanks for the link.
Happy New Year!
"Let us not insult the free and gallant citizens of America with the suspicion, that they would be less able to defend the rights of which they would be in actual possession, than the debased subjects of arbitrary power would be to rescue theirs from the hands of their oppressors. Let us rather no longer insult them with the supposition that they can ever reduce themselves to the necessity of making the experiment, by a blind and tame submission to the long train of insidious measures which must precede and produce it. "James Madison, Federalist number 46
That not only fits the question of personally retaining the means to self-defense it perfectly describes the problem the victims of hurricane Sandy find themselves in. There they sit in the rubble of their former homes waiting for "the debased subjects of arbitrary power to come to their rescue."
How's that socialist style of central government workin' for ya?
Pay your taxes, homelessness is no excuse.
Keeping in mind that the definition of “Militia” in the day was : “The Army, in its entirety.” (That definition taken from an English Dictionary (as in printed in England) ca 1814.
The control sought was not training, not command, not regimentation.
All of that could be obtained by martial training after someone was recruited. So, too, could the use of arms be taught recruits.
The Right of the People was not necessary to any of those ends, as armies all over Europe had already proven.
If you read the discussion of whether to have a standing Federal Army in the Federalist Papers, the concern was that such a force might be misused to impose upon the Rights and Liberty of the citizenry (after all, that is what the British had done).
A well controlled army in this sense is necessary to the security of a free state, not from military forces outside the state but from the possibility of tyranny imposed from within by the Army itself.
The security of any form of government depends on its ability to impose force to stop threats from outside its borders, so why specify "free"?
Why else even mention “a free state"? The control of the Army was to keep it subservient to the civilian government, and the rule of law, to keep it from being used as a device to impose tyranny.
The control exerted on the Federal Standing Army would be done so by the forces of the several State Militias (armies), and those in turn or together controlled by the sheer overwhelming force of arms in private hands, so that none of those organized military forces could be used to deprive the population of their Liberty.
These were the very arguments put forth in the Federalist Papers to ensure that a standing Federal Army would pose no threat to Liberty, a concern because the Founders had recently finished a long war to secure that freedom from a military government imposed by the English Crown.
Why else would personal arms matter, and why else secure the Right of the People?
To keep a Free State secure, you control the Military by having the right of the people to keep and bear arms protected.
Those who enter the military service need not bring their own arms, and can be trained there in the manner most fitting to the purpose of the service, and no such Right is necessary for that.
Read the Federalist Papers and that is made plain.
Well, I found a dictionary printed in England when King George III’s son had become regent, which puts it about 1814 or shortly thereafter. In that volume, “regulated” meant “controlled”. Well controlled (no hyphen) means just that. I recall no hyphen in the Second Amendment.
Ok, controlled by the people = well-regulated by virtue of the right of the people to keep and bear arms. Makes sense. I had thought that “well regulated” was more simply defined in those times, but the Founders were no slouches when it came to expressing essential truths in practical and metaphorical terms.
No hyphen but it really is not an adverb-adjective relationship IMO. Well regulated is different from regulated at least in the common language of the time.
The Miller case in which you refer to is an interesting read;
paraphrasing it was HELD that no sawed off shotguns had little or none military use. [not true today] Therefore were NOT protected by the Second Amendment; it went on to say that those types of normal military weapons were therefore THE most protected.
Filing an amicus curiae “federal question” in a US district court is fairly cheap $350 or so
“Our entire military was almost ground to hamburger in Iraq, which is about the size of Texas. No dice.”
None of us here even the lurkers wish for any of this to come to pass, or are advocating any violence I’m sure of that ... but with your above comment I would add;
Vietnam is about the same size as California, even has rice paddies. lol.
1814? the BOR was written way before that ...Not true ... well regulated meant for all intents and purposes
same size shot or caliber ... I could be wrong
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