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Do Asian Americans count as "diverse"?
Philadelphia Inquirer Blog ^ | 01/02/2013 | Matt Katz

Posted on 01/02/2013 3:37:25 PM PST by Kid Shelleen

New Jersey Democrats have long argued that they would approve only "diverse" nominees to the state Supreme Court. But now, as liberal opposition builds against Gov. Christie's most recent picks, the definition of diverse appears to be changing.

One of the two nominees, Monmouth County Superior Court Judge David Bauman, was born in Japan to a Japanese mother and would be the first Asian American on the high court.

Yet the Legislature's black caucus, the state Latino Action Network, and a broad coalition of more than 50 groups, including teachers' unions and Planned Parenthood, are opposing Bauman and the other nominee, Robert Hanna, who is white, primarily because they would not make the court more diverse - and specifically, because they're not African American or Latino.

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1 posted on 01/02/2013 3:37:33 PM PST by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

Nope. Only the squeeky wheels (blacks and muzzies) count.


2 posted on 01/02/2013 3:42:02 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

They certainly vote like “diverse” Americans.


3 posted on 01/02/2013 3:42:44 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Asians’ll count as ‘diverse’ the moment the democrats gain 70% of their vote nationally.


5 posted on 01/02/2013 3:49:00 PM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter
"Asians’ll count as ‘diverse’ the moment the democrats gain 70% of their vote nationally."

One of the most dissappointing stats...I thought they were smarter.

6 posted on 01/02/2013 3:53:09 PM PST by blam
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To: Kid Shelleen

Just wait until they realize that ‘Latinos’ are white people from South America...


7 posted on 01/02/2013 3:53:36 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: skeeter

That’s exactly the percentage that voted for Obama in the last election, 70%.


8 posted on 01/02/2013 3:54:19 PM PST by blam
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To: Kid Shelleen

No, because blacks hate Asians.


9 posted on 01/02/2013 4:00:20 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Nope, just a chink in the armor.

If they let this one get by, it's a slippery slope.

10 posted on 01/02/2013 4:00:44 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Your professional black hater class definitely hate Asians ~


11 posted on 01/02/2013 4:05:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Zhang Fei

Only if their viewpoint’s not slanted.


12 posted on 01/02/2013 4:08:53 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: proxy_user
Just wait until they realize that ‘Latinos’ are white people from South America...

Just ask George Zimmerman.

13 posted on 01/02/2013 4:15:51 PM PST by YankeeReb
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To: Kid Shelleen
New Jersey Democrats have long argued that they would approve only "diverse" nominees to the state Supreme Court.

Racists. They are full frontal in your face racists.

14 posted on 01/02/2013 4:50:58 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Kid Shelleen

The longer you live here, diverse it gets.


15 posted on 01/02/2013 4:51:10 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: popdonnelly

Definitely the best line of the thread. You’re not from my area, because all the pop donellys I know are screaming liberals.


16 posted on 01/02/2013 5:08:17 PM PST by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: blam
I guess Asians weren't immune from an appeal to their sense of grievance after all.

More proof that in the current racially charged environment there is no such thing as a 'natural republican' non-white constituency.

17 posted on 01/02/2013 5:09:41 PM PST by skeeter
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Only if their viewpoint’s not slanted.

Definitely wouldn't want to get any gook on the pristine founding documents.

18 posted on 01/02/2013 5:31:57 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Especially not mustard.


19 posted on 01/02/2013 5:38:02 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

They want to nip this in the bud.


20 posted on 01/02/2013 6:25:41 PM PST by coldbluesteel (Endo)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Many blacks are hypocrites. Remember Martin Luther King’s saying that a man should be judged by his character and not the color of his skin? These whiners are all about judging against white-skinned folk (even if half-asian).


21 posted on 01/02/2013 6:46:37 PM PST by roadcat
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To: roadcat

“Many blacks are hypocrites. Remember Martin Luther King’s saying that a man should be judged by his character and not the color of his skin? These whiners are all about judging against white-skinned folk (even if half-asian).”

Many blacks can’t even spell his name; they are not his heirs. In fact, he would have nothing to do with him; he appealed to the black WORKING class.


22 posted on 01/02/2013 6:59:31 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: muawiyah

The class-warfare industry hates them because they had what the WASPs who built this country had: a strong work ethic and families.

Most of our welfare/dependency culture is created by the war on families in this country.


23 posted on 01/02/2013 7:09:01 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Especially not mustard.

That would put a whole new slant on the expression "yellowing documents".

24 posted on 01/02/2013 8:05:06 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

In a milti-racial society whites also count as part of its diversity. But then, I’m a stickler for definitions.


25 posted on 01/02/2013 8:49:14 PM PST by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: blam; skeeter
I spoke to some friends of mine who are various Asians (one Indian, one Japanese and one Vietnamese) -- two are second generation and one is a recent migrant. All of them are GOP voters

I asked them why would "Asians" vote for the Dims -- Dim policies actually affect "Asians" -- these minorities are smarter, yet don't get enough places in college due to affirmative action. They are hard-working and save/invest their money, so why would they want it going as welfare? and they have strongly conservative social values

The answer from all three was the same -- they felt that it was primarily due to peer pressure and wanting to fit in with their white liberal friends.

Needless to say all 3 of these folks are proud to be independent thinkers and to speak their minds.

26 posted on 01/03/2013 3:10:05 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: kearnyirish2
The earliest East Asians (other than the American Indians) were mostly single men ~ and there were no brides ~ American practice was to bring them in as workers ~ mostly in the West ~ and not to allow them to start families.

It's only in the post WWII period that East Asians have achieved any sort of social acceptance in the US.

27 posted on 01/03/2013 5:22:09 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

San Fran’s Chinatown is much older than WWII, and Chinese women were brought here as well as men during the Old West. Maybe not commonplace on the frontier, but they’re not new to California’s coastal cities.


28 posted on 01/03/2013 5:28:32 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
There was a long period where women were smuggled in ~ as you well know. At the same time the mid 1700s saw the first attempts to settle California and Spain provisioned the missions FROM the Far East ~ and there can be no doubt East Asians showed up on those boats ~ and some "Manila Men' came to settle in towns along the Gulf of California earlier, but no one knows how early ~ certainly no earlier than several years AFTER 1531 I am fairly sure.

But almost all the Chinese in the West were men, without families, for a very long time after the American takeover.

If you read through the various histories of Fort Ross carefully you discover that the Russians actually brought a large number of Aleuts ~ who mostly later on went to Russia when the colony was disbanded (rather than back to the Aleutians), but many Aleut women stayed there finding opportunities with Spaniards (and American fur traders in the region) far more promising.

I don't know how you count Aleuts ~ as North American aborigines, or as East Asians, but the second generation of Aleuts in California were certainly among the first mixed-race folks since the 9000BC period!

East Asian immigration patterns were wholly unlike Western European immigration patterns of the mid to late 1800s ~ on the other hand they were very much like Western European immigration patterns of the 1500s (with few women) and later on in the mid 1700s (with few women)

As you undoubtedly know there were native women here fully equipped to bear children and create family life. One famous fellow in New York was the first European settler in what became Rochester NY. He had several wives. One was an Indian. Another was black. One was a blond white woman, and another was a fiery red headed white woman.

The red head lived alone with her 5 chillun'. The others lived together with their pack in a larger house.

Their family name is ALLEN ~ and he was from New Jersey. Gather he grew up packing into the back country to collect furs to bring back to the coast.

That was for a very long time a typical American family. No idea why we gave it up

29 posted on 01/03/2013 5:44:09 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I believe the “Kennewick Man” (not sure of the spelling) in Washington State was an Aleutian; the dig was going to be used as fodder for more freebies for American Indians, but when it turned out the oldest skeleton was in fact not a native at all the government closed up the site.


30 posted on 01/03/2013 5:59:03 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
Probably Ainu.

Vintage Skulls

31 posted on 01/03/2013 7:48:25 AM PST by blam
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To: kearnyirish2

more likely he was from japan ~ brought over in a large debris field by a tsunami.


32 posted on 01/03/2013 8:43:16 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

No, he was Caucasian. That was why they had to close up the site (can’t have Injuns claiming land where the oldest remnant is a honky).


33 posted on 01/03/2013 8:45:07 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

No, we have a Caucasion who looked like him, right down to everything but THE TEETH. The dude had teeth typical of the Ainu/Emeshi/Jomon people ~ That’s a branch of the main group from which the Chinese are descended ~ ergo, just another kinda’ Chinese.


34 posted on 01/03/2013 8:48:50 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; kearnyirish2
"more likely he was from japan ~ brought over in a large debris field by a tsunami."

OR:

The Kelp Highway

35 posted on 01/03/2013 10:48:43 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
That's been posted and discussed before. Actually, going way beyond that, one group has determined that RICE was first domesticated in the Aleutians and only then brought to Asia.

Which begs the question of where the Aleuts or their ancestors came from.

The Alaskan coast and associated island groups may have been far more settled than tiger ridden China and Indo China 10,000 or so years ago ~ and the use of kelp is absolutely necessary to survival at paleolithic or neolithic levels in that part of the world yet today.

Canadian for kelp is doultz ~ roasted, toasted and flavored!

36 posted on 01/03/2013 11:00:28 AM PST by muawiyah
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