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House Republicans gauging support for budget amendments
The Hill ^ | 1-1-13 | Erik Wasson, Russell Berman and Molly K. Hooper

Posted on 01/01/2013 4:06:45 PM PST by bimboeruption

House Republican leaders will assess support within their conference for two options on the Senate's "fiscal cliff" compromise before deciding whether to try to amend the legislation and send it back to the upper chamber, lawmakers and aides said.

The two choices: amend the bill with spending cuts - likely killing it for the 112th Congress - or voting to adopt the Senate measure and sending it to President Obama for his signature.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) told his conference he was flatly opposed to the Senate bill without more spending cuts, members said as they emerged from a nearly two-hour Republican meeting in the Capitol Tuesday afternoon.

According to sources in the room, Cantor said that he did not "support" the Senate-backed bill but stopped short of saying he would vote against it if the House took it up on the floor.

The sizeable objections among House Republicans to the Senate approach risked scuttling the deal worked out by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Vice President Biden on Monday. That deal passed early Tuesday in the Senate 89-8.

During an eventing vote series, members are being whipped on various amendment options. If there is more than a 217-vote majority within the Republican conference for the amended bill, it will be brought to the floor. If a majority cannot be found, the Senate deal will get an up-or-down vote, members said Tuesday evening.

"I am looking forward to getting some spending cuts in this deal," Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said.

Members said that one option would replace a year of sequestration cuts with cuts to mandatory programs approved by the House in the spring. Those cuts were decried by Democrats as slashing entitlement spending.

Rep. Steven LaTourette (R-Ohio) said the GOP amendment would cut $328 billion and mirrors the defense sequester measure that has already passed the House.

LaTourette predicted that a vote on the Senate bill would not attract a majority of the majority. He said it would probably get 150 Democratic votes and the support of only 70 Republicans.

"We are asking members about what options they want and then we will know how to move forward," incoming Rules Committee Chairman Pete Sessions (R-Texas) said. He said final votes could come later in the evening.

The developments followed signs earlier Tuesday that the Senate’s New Year’s Eve compromise on the "fiscal cliff" had hit major turbulence in the House.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boehner; budget; obama; republicans
As it's been said TRILLIONS of times...we don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.

These power hungry, corrupt traitors are never going to get it because they don't want to get it. They want to be able to continue buying votes with OUR money.

Pray for Godly Patriots to run for office.

1 posted on 01/01/2013 4:06:57 PM PST by bimboeruption
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To: bimboeruption

I forgot to check the excerpt box. There’s more at the site.


2 posted on 01/01/2013 4:08:23 PM PST by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: bimboeruption

My prediction: they won’t get the votes to add the spending cuts. They’ll vote up or down on the Senate version. The Senate version will pass with lots of Dems with lots of GOP members voting against it.


3 posted on 01/01/2013 4:12:31 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: bimboeruption

COMPROMISE!

The soup Republicans eat to vomit out bills that have destroyed our liberty and freedom.

Tonight is no exception.


4 posted on 01/01/2013 4:14:20 PM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: bimboeruption

Our laws are supposed to flow upward from the people, not down from a despot to be rubber stamped in the dead of night without hearings or deliberation.

We must instruct our Congressmen to vote “no” on every ultimatum from Chairman Obama.


5 posted on 01/01/2013 4:16:07 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: bimboeruption
The two choices: amend the bill with spending cuts - likely killing it for the 112th Congress - or voting to adopt the Senate measure and sending it to President Obama for his signature.

There are other choices. They could remove the extension of child and EITC credits. They could remove the extension of the unemployment benefits. Yadda yadda yadda.
6 posted on 01/01/2013 4:17:35 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Jacquerie
Our laws are supposed to flow upward from the people

To a point. The progressives have chipped away at the Constitution and other protections to allow "mob on demand" flows to override things. The poison Mr. Jefferson mistakenly introduced into the "party of the people" may kill slowly, but it kills nonetheless.

Mr. niteowl77

7 posted on 01/01/2013 4:25:29 PM PST by niteowl77 (Oh, crap.)
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To: andyk
Votes go ONE WAY on ALL issues:

Which way gets me the most votes for re-Election?

To Hell with the Constitution, or any Conservatives because the other side of the Issues has the support of the parasites who live off others, Unions, Government workers, felons, Illegals, and inner-city tribal parasites.

There's no way any handouts will be cut off to balance the Budget (when they ever pass one), and when our Credit goes to zero, the only vote you will ever need is in your ammo boxes.

8 posted on 01/01/2013 4:26:48 PM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: niteowl77

What poison are you referring to ?


9 posted on 01/01/2013 4:28:43 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: bimboeruption

“the support of only 70 Republicans. “

If anywhere near that many vote for it Boehner has to go.

There are only about 20 RINOs who would vote for this in their own interests.

Any more voting for it are doing it because of Boehner.


10 posted on 01/01/2013 4:34:53 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Jacquerie

>We must instruct our Congressmen to vote “no” on every ultimatum from Chairman Obama.<

We can instruct most of them until we’re blue in the face. In fact that’s how Conservative/Tea Partiers recognize one another.

Congress, as a whole, does not care. We need to do the bus trip to Washington thing again. They’ve forgotten what it’s like to be chased down those white marble halls.


11 posted on 01/01/2013 4:35:43 PM PST by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: bimboeruption

Cuts? This bill the senate over does not contain any cuts. In addition, it
has 330 billion in new spending. Lindsey Graham was out today saying
cuts must be made. Yet, last night in the senate, he voted for this bill
that has 330 billion in new spending.


12 posted on 01/01/2013 4:38:19 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman

They think we’re pretty stupid, don’t they?


13 posted on 01/01/2013 5:14:40 PM PST by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: fooman
What poison are you referring to ?

The mainstreaming of Jacobin tendencies into American politics.

Mr. niteowl77

14 posted on 01/01/2013 6:03:07 PM PST by niteowl77 (Oh, crap.)
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To: bimboeruption

Now I see that Democrats are mulling over ways to gouge more tax money from workers to pay for ObamaCare.

I have the perfect solution: Look at the voter registration and assess every Democrat, liberal or otherwise, $1,000 regardless of that person‘s work ethic.

Democrats are the ones who want this monstrosity, so they should be the ones to pay for it. If this is not enough for complete coverage, then the balance should be acquired from the overpaid worthless senators and representatives who are figuring where to get more tax money.

Simple solutions for major problems are always the best.

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15 posted on 01/01/2013 6:12:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: niteowl77

Are you calling Jefferson a progressive, or ultimately responsible for progressivism? No. Or is it just that the Democrat Party was founded by Jeffersonians? No again. It dates from Jackson, technically (and actually was formed by Jackson’s little helper, Van Buren). Jeffersonians are different enough from Jacksonians, let alone today’s Democrats. Hell, today’s Democrats don’t even resemble New Deal Democrats.

It has always irked me that just because the parties have kept the same names since Jackson and Lincoln respectively we must pretend as if they’re the same parties. Lincolnians might as well have been Whigs, for all the difference it makes to contemporary Pubs. We have fun rubbing the KKK in Dems’ faces, but is there any essential connection between fictitious Confederate ghosts and today’s Dems? Hell no. They’d be union men, not secessionists. Unless it was the central government who owned slaves instead of private individuals, and instead of seceding they were kicking out the red states so as to have no more tubes in the way of socialization.


16 posted on 01/01/2013 7:17:42 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: niteowl77

I can see calling Jefferson a leftist, but not so much a Jacobin. Yes, he supported the French revolution at first. But he was a revolution kinda guy, though certainly not a reign of terror guy. He did seemingly drop all his libertarian principles upon descending to the presidency, but didn’t rule like Robespierre. Not even like Lincoln or FDR, and certainly not like later leftist revolutionaries.

You may argue leftism is all of a kind, and the license part inevitably leads to the despotism part. I think that’s relying far too much on terminology to do your thinking for you. Also, though I say I can see calling him a leftist, actually I think he was a liberal. That makes for more of a drawn out argument, given how many types have been labelled liberal since Jefferson.

Leave it as if Jefferson is a leftist, he is not of the kind which leads to death camps. He is of the liberal kind. If there is no such kind, then he is not a leftist and is closest to libertarians.

By the way, do today’s liberals, i.e. socialists, even bother claiming Jefferson? Or if they do, do they do so convincingly? I ask because I know libertarians do. They can’t shut up about them. And however many differences there are between conservatives and libertarians one thing we know is they hate socialists and socialists hate them almost more than us conservatives, except when it comes to war, sex, and drugs, broadly speaking.


17 posted on 01/01/2013 7:31:15 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
We have fun rubbing the KKK in Dems’ faces, but is there any essential connection between fictitious Confederate ghosts and today’s Dems?

Well, you mean besides Robert KKK Byrd, George Wallace, Fritz Hollings, Lester Maddox etc? Union thugs' actions aren't too far removed from Klan behavior.

Then there's the bomb building Occupackers, just busted over the weekend.

Don't forget the National Socialist types that infest the DHHS, disciples of Mr Janet Reno.

How about the environmental terrorists who burn down buildings and spike trees?

RATS all.

18 posted on 01/01/2013 7:39:42 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Tublecane
do today’s liberals, i.e. socialists, even bother claiming Jefferson?

Well the RATs have Jefferson/Jackson dinners every year as a fund raiser...much like the GOPs have a Lincoln Day dinner.

19 posted on 01/01/2013 7:43:50 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: bimboeruption

You either drastically cut spending or vote no. What’s the problem with these idiots? There’s no debate - cut spending. CUT THE EFFIN’ SPENDING, MORONS!


20 posted on 01/01/2013 7:45:56 PM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Robert Byrd types, yes, that’s just the point. He was like 100 when he left politics, and not representative of the party since the civil rights movement and the New Left. Check out what happened to the Southern vote between ‘65 and now. They are hardly the same parties.


21 posted on 01/01/2013 7:56:24 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
I'm not calling Jefferson anything. (Although I have over the space of 50 years lost much of my admiration for him.) What I am suggesting is that serious flirtation with "Citoyen Genet" (I use the term generically) was one of Jefferson's errors that unfortunately took root. Jackson (another person I liked less the more I learned about him) deftly managed to use tools forged before his ascension in an America whose institutions had changed greatly, including - as you expressed - the Republican-Democrat party.

Every year the Jefferson-Jackson Day dinner press releases bring out the sarcastic jerk in me, as I know damned well that they'd actually be aghast at being connected with the freakshow that makes up today's Democrat Party... and vice-versa. Having said that, I suspect they'd both be envious of the capability of the current "machine."

Mr. niteowl77

22 posted on 01/01/2013 7:56:53 PM PST by niteowl77 (Oh, crap.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

They’ll say things like that, because, hey, Jeffersonians became Jacksonians, and both were fir agrarians and against Yankee mercantilists, and so on. But it’s false history. Jacksonian democracy was not Jeffersonian. Read “The Era of Good Feelings” by George Dangerfield, for reference. Jackson is the real foundation of the Democrat Party.

Republicans might as well claim Whigism as its true foundation, and that would be more ideologically accurate. But they don’t, and just as well. Because Republicans weren’t Whigs even if Lincoln was a Whig before he was a Republican, for instance. There are reasons the former party failed and the latter dominated Washington from Lincoln to Wilson.


23 posted on 01/01/2013 8:05:05 PM PST by Tublecane
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