Skip to comments.White House declares victory
Posted on 01/01/2013 9:52:16 AM PST by Cheerio
The White House issued a "fact sheet" statement Tuesday declaring the fiscal cliff agreement a victory, though the House has yet to vote on the measure.
"At this make or break moment for the middle class, the President achieved a bipartisan solution that keeps income taxes low for the middle class and grows the economy," the statement says. "For the first time in 20 years, Congress will have acted on a bipartisan basis to vote for significant new revenue.
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Amen. Getting our outcomes requires winning elections. Winning requires a broad coalition and an awesome messenger.
Had only one repub Senator voted ‘yea’ it would have been declared ‘bipartisan’.
I’ve been trying to leave messages on my congress critter and senators’ answering machines. No luck at their Washington offices but some success in the offices back home.
I’m congratulating them on their pay raise and asking them how they can sleep at night with their irresponsible spending.
If they buy from you it’s a cost of goods deductible. The tax is based on net profits. What am I missing here.
The business elite that pays the way for GOP political campaigns in this country with big money to the Karl Rove PAC and other such SuperPAC’s want stability.
Stability means going along and getting along (passing cave-in legislation) while making noisy speeches to stir up the emotions of all us unwashed sinners in the grassroots.
The only principled politician of any kind I detect right now in DC is dare I say it, Rand Paul. He voted NO last night and I believe he was sincere in his NO.
There are some in the House who have principles but I would count them on my fingers.
The big money is on the people we elect who are expected to not rock the boat like you want.
Only a pure conservative, principled party not influenced by big money will stand in the way of anything.
Such a third party could not command a majority right now.
We are getting the shaft.
I remember reading about “THE ONE BIG BATTLE” theory in military history. It was supposedly the strategy that guided the Union generals in The Civil War before Grant. The idea was to have one big set-piece battle on some open plain that would decide the outcome of the war. I guess Lee realized you don’t have to fight that way. Eventually, Lincoln put Grant in charge who also realized you didn’t have to fight that way. The Republican leaders are still trying to fight with a strategy that the Democrats refuse to follow. They, the Democrats, see this as a continuous war, not one big battle to decide the issue. The Republican leaders need to realize this, too. This is just one battle in the war to win elections. It doesn’t have anything to do with proper governance of this country. That’s not the war goal. The Democrat’s war goal is to win elections. Figure it out or go back to sweeping floors.
Sad, so true, we are no longer a nation with a two party system, we are ruled by elites, they could care less for those beneath their ivory towers, those who speak up will be knocked down or killed, division among them will not be tolerated, the Europeans elites have finally attained the United States of America under their socialist yoke, God help us all, a nation divided 50/50, yet the other half has no leadership willing to fight, so, they will come for the guns, then, the new world order, Papa Bush got the ball rolling, his son and Clinton helped, Odumba will finish the job, so will it be one world under allah, or one nation under Lucifer? Well, there is no difference, either one is tyranny, while the elites eat cake and attend cocktail parties with the press, I wonder if the Chinese dragon will set atop the thrown.
Right out of the Soviet playbook.
“We still control the f**king House!”
If by “we” you mean the GOPe, sure.
If by “we” you mean conservatives, not so sure.
Our outcome should be deep cuts to government spending and an almost immediate balanced budget, not one ten years down the road ala Paul Ryan or Pat Toomey.
Even if we elected a GOP majority and a Mitt Romney like president, the appropriate outcome of a quick balanced budget with real cuts to spending would not happen.
The moderate GOP-E would rule the roost.
The big money that supports political campaigns wants “stability” so all these band aid plans get passed with hoopla claiming its a “solution” while the multi-Trillion dollar debt train rolls on the real “Fiscal Cliff” of super disaster to come.
The House should tell Obama it will not consider anything that raises taxes unless it’s part of an overall budget submitted by Obama.
Exactly a SPENDING problem. The media is using smoke and mirrors on the “fiscal cliff” coverage. We are taxed enough, it should be about cutting spending. This is why I think the GOP has WON on the issue. Splitting the spending and tax in two stages will make it OBVIOUS on the need to cut spending.
The insider politicians are running the show backed up by the big money that wants everybody to think the Titanic is unsinkable.
So we get these band aid plans to save us from the “Fiscal Cliff.”
Just putting off the inevitable collapse to some point down the road.
Its time to tell our elected Republican members of Congress to either replace Boehner, Cantor etc. or get their own conservative caucus going. If they are unwilling, we consider them GOP Establishment moderates, not conservatives.
The truth as I see it is that 90 percent of the folks called “Republicans” in Washington are not real conservatives. They are complicit in the deal making business as usual politics whether they vote YES or NO.
>>Freepers must make in excess of 450K a year.
>All of my potential customers do. If they don’t buy, I’m out of business.
The problem is that (1) we have a fiat currency, which means that the value can be, and is, arbitrary (w/o ceiling or floor), and (2) the agreement is simply a number ($450K) and can be reached at any time via inflation, and likely can be changed arbitrarily.
This is why a gold or silver standard are better than a fiat currency — they have an intrinsic value and therefore are not merely imaginary numbers which can be manipulated at-will. (Of course the value of some coin can be fraudulent — but that is a separate issue.)
See my tagline.
So? Let it come to pass - those in DC are so disconnected that one of them will say "let them eat cake."
The original Bush Tax Rate Cuts increased Tax Revenue 35% in four years time from $1.75 Trillion in 2003 to $2.5 Trillion in 2007.
Of course, a majority of the American Public are ignorant of this fact since the Bush Tax Cuts were only for the “rich”, which must have meant that those rich people paid less of the total Taxes collected. The opposite was true, but you wouldn’t know it unless you looked beyond the usual sources.
The concept of a growing economy producing increased Tax Revenue seems to be outside the realm of understanding for the average American.
Will this “AGREEMENT” do the same? Will the current level of Taxation, $2.2 Trillion Dollars, magically grow to $3 Trillion Dollars in four years?
Even if it did, will the Federal Budget (well there is no real Budget) shrink to $3 Trillion Dollars from its current $4 Trillion Dollars so we will have a balanced Budget?
Everyone here knows the answers, but we are now the enemy according to the Democrats and their Media sycophants. The light of truth has been extinguished.
I agree but how do we unwind fiat currency. Fractional reserve banking is what brought us out of poverty. Can you image going back to the gold standard. Not enough gold and silver in the world to match the dollars outstanding. The Gold standard would be the Biggest Spending Cut EVER. Remember the days of no air condition, that is how serious the cuts would be.
What's even sadder is the politically correct hall monitor censored my brutally truthful comment directed at the easily led Pollyanna's out here.
America is in deep cheet due to the easily led who continue to swallow the big gov two party BS.
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