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It's Official: Muslim Population of Britain Doubles
Gatestone Institute ^ | December 21, 2012 | Douglas Murray

Posted on 12/30/2012 8:58:58 AM PST by george76

England and Wales ... undergoing seismic change. Over the course of a decade up to four million more people have entered the country to live. In the capital, London, people identifying themselves as "white British" have for the first time become a minority. Perhaps most strikingly, the national Muslim population has doubled.

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For the last decade, every major politician has lied about this issue. While talking tough, about putting a cap on immigrant numbers, pushing people to assimilate and much else besides, they have done nearly nothing

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Now we can see the fruits of their labors. The census reveals that three million people are now living in households where no adult speaks English as their primary language. As Labour's Sadiq Khan has admitted, local councils have spent their money on translation services rather than language classes, thus actually dissuading people from learning the language. The result is communities with inter-generational language barriers. There are parts of London where a quarter of the people are in the same situation. They have created a society where many people can speak about each other but many cannot actually speak to each other. And all the while politicians and pundits are busy trying to pretend that this is all the most wonderful result imaginable.

(Excerpt) Read more at gatestoneinstitute.org ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: britain; celebratediversity; colonization; culturewar; islamicimperialism; islamicsupremacists; muslim; muslims; thereisnoenglandnow; unitedkingdom; waronterror
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1 posted on 12/30/2012 8:59:05 AM PST by george76
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To: george76

As the stupid Brits go, so might we.


2 posted on 12/30/2012 9:01:41 AM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper
might

HAVE

3 posted on 12/30/2012 9:05:58 AM PST by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: george76
The last thing a fundamental Muslim should do is assimilate into an Infidel society.
It always surprises me that the dumb Infidels don't realize this, and keep the Muslims at bay. Quite the contrary the Infidels invite them into their societies.-tom
4 posted on 12/30/2012 9:06:30 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: george76

I was just in London. The place is swarming with women veiled up to their eyeballs (literally - there were a lot of the Saudi-type outfits that are all black and allow only a slit for the eyes) and men speaking the guttural ugliness that is Arabic. The women don’t seem to be allowed to speak, or at least not in public.

It’s quite possible that many of these in the more affluent downtown area were visitors, but I was in some parts of London that weren’t big tourist areas but at the same time hadn’t been known as heavily Muslim districts - and yet they too were full of chadors, burkas, and other Muslim garb. It wasn’t exotic but creepy.


5 posted on 12/30/2012 9:09:11 AM PST by livius
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To: george76

Shouldn’t Piers Morgan go home and start working on this? The muzzies are taking over HIS country.


6 posted on 12/30/2012 9:12:30 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: george76

It’s the dream of the Radical Left in every Western society to import Muslims to finally destroy Christianity, freedom and the rule of law, and impose an extreme socialist vision on society, even if its a variant of Sharia. That’s how looney they are and that’s how deep their hatred of the West goes. They are all traitors and should be tried convicted and executed by the people.

The time is coming when blood will run in the streets in Britain, and the modern day equivalent of the guillotines of Paris will be more commonplace that a double decker bus in London. Even now, thousands of British sisters of Madam Defarge are being incubated to spring forth in all their bloodthirsty rage come to revolution.


7 posted on 12/30/2012 9:14:58 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The muzzies are taking over HIS country.

...that's why he's here

8 posted on 12/30/2012 9:15:10 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: livius

Agree. We were there just a year ago. On a Saturday afternoon at 4 pm there were few on the subway that were not Muslim...and the women were in burkas. The eyes of both the women and men are “vacant” when they look at us.

There as here in the USA politicians are killing our way of life in public but we must not let them have their way and be only Christians in private. We must shine our light in this darkness!


9 posted on 12/30/2012 9:19:26 AM PST by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: george76

And London has the highest violent crime rate in the world.


10 posted on 12/30/2012 9:21:28 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: george76

Suicide of the West...


11 posted on 12/30/2012 9:23:28 AM PST by DwFry (Baby Boomers Killed Western Civilization!)
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To: george76

It isn’t immigration (to assimilate), it is foreign funded colonization to inhabit land.

It’s only called “imperialism” when the West funds programs in the third world (or conquered) nations. And that isn’t even establishing whole “immigrant” communities.


12 posted on 12/30/2012 9:24:26 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: YouGoTexasGirl

“The eyes of both the women and men are “vacant” when they look at us.”

That’s known as the “thousand mile stare of death.”


13 posted on 12/30/2012 9:25:09 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Capt. Tom

The question is, why do the Establishment British politicians WANT these potential voters streaming into their country?

It is a death wish, and it may be granted ever so much faster than anyone imagined.

Because the British Establishment will be obliterated by these new “immigrants” (invaders, really). Coming from all over the former British Empire, they still have their resentments against the British oppressors that held their anscestors in thrall for centuries, and old prejudices die hard. Add to that a ready-made infrastructure with at some industrial base, and that is an immense leapfrog movement into a semi-industrial world.

But, being Muslim, they will turn the British Isles into another Syria.


14 posted on 12/30/2012 9:27:35 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: SgtHooper
"As the stupid Brits go, so might we."

Not so much stupid as deceived. The British Labour Party (The Left) imported the minorities from all the old colonies - which included Muslims from Pakistan - as a deliberate but secret policy, knowing that they would vote Left and dilute the power of the ethnic white native and autochthonous English (sound familiar).

15 posted on 12/30/2012 9:28:50 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Founding Father; SgtHooper
Sarge said might. Founding said have.

I have to agree w/sarge. Britain lost their right of self-defense recently. They lost their firearms long ago. We're nowhere near that. Well, w/the exception maybe of Chicago and NYC.

But anyplace these third world mongrels go, violent crime rises. Not here though. Even mongrels know that a well-armed society doesn't have to tolerate violent savages.

16 posted on 12/30/2012 9:38:24 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: george76

The Muzzies are just doing what the white women don’t want to do - reproduce.


17 posted on 12/30/2012 9:47:35 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: george76

Warning from a former Muslim

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2941543/posts


18 posted on 12/30/2012 9:48:21 AM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: WashingtonSource

“It’s the dream of the Radical Left in every Western society to import Muslims to finally destroy Christianity, freedom and the rule of law, and impose an extreme socialist vision on society”

Exactly what I have been thinking.


19 posted on 12/30/2012 9:53:38 AM PST by I want the USA back (Kick the bearded savages out.)
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To: DwFry

The UK is leading it while the rest of the Western countries follow right behind them.


20 posted on 12/30/2012 9:59:24 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: YouGoTexasGirl

I remember teaching a class of Muslim oil princelings many years ago. I know about that look In their eyes-and when it’s not flat and vacant, I promise it can be vicious. It has to do with the taboo subject of consanguinity, IMO. Half of all marriages are between first cousins. You can look up the health consequences and its hitting the British health service hard.


21 posted on 12/30/2012 10:08:44 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Scotsman

I guess you’ll have to get with your government, and have them ‘revise’ the numbers. It’s OBVIOUS what the plan is in your country and I do feel sorry for you in the way you deny it.

(not that it’s much better here, but we’re, at least, not in denial)


22 posted on 12/30/2012 10:29:51 AM PST by BobL (Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21... (whatever the hell that is))
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To: george76

Glad I got to see the place well before all this happened.

To put the population figures in perspective, that is 4 million out of about 60 million. Between 6-7% of the population there.


23 posted on 12/30/2012 10:39:20 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: george76

The socialist elite’s plan is succeeding, the elites destroyed the nuclear family, they destroyed the British church and its’ peoples faith in God via television, now, the native British are strangers in a strange land invaded by a faith the elites feel can allow for them to rule with an iron fist, the United Kingdom is the canary in the coal mind, the United States is their next target, it has already begun, they just need to take away the guns!


24 posted on 12/30/2012 10:42:05 AM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: SgtHooper

Might?

Have you seen any of our congresscritters or other politicians show the slightest concern about the rapid growth of Islam in our country?

To them, a muslim is just another vote.


25 posted on 12/30/2012 11:09:29 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: alloysteel
why do the Establishment British politicians WANT these potential voters streaming into their country?

Same reason they want immigrants here. They get political power (votes from immigrants and sympathizers) that they would never get if conservatives were in the ascendancy.

26 posted on 12/30/2012 11:15:36 AM PST by what's up
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To: WashingtonSource

“The time is coming when blood will run in the streets in Britain, and the modern day equivalent of the guillotines of Paris will be more commonplace that a double decker bus in London. Even now, thousands of British sisters of Madam Defarge are being incubated to spring forth in all their bloodthirsty rage come to revolution.”

The choice will have to be made by the Euro-Christians. Will it be:
1. Boxcars, or...
2. Burqhas.

No other option will be possible. If they cannot bring themselves to choose option #1, they WILL end up with option #2...


27 posted on 12/30/2012 11:21:07 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“The eyes of both the women and men are “vacant” when they look at us.”

That’s known as the “thousand mile stare of death.”

Totally Alien, Like the star Wars Cantina

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIlG9aSMCpg


28 posted on 12/30/2012 11:55:33 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Jack Hydrazine
"highest violent crime rate"

Show me your statistics. London had 125 murders in 2011 compared to over 400 in NYC. There might be more property crime in London, but I'd rather walk down in a street there (and have) than any large American city.

29 posted on 12/30/2012 12:20:30 PM PST by driftless2
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To: SgtHooper
As the stupid Brits go, so might we.

The West is committing suicide. Our people have gone the route of secular socialism and are filled with self loathing at our own past successes. To even have this discussion is so politically incorrect it would be censored most places. It's a real shame. This is one of those things Pat Buchanan and others really got right.

30 posted on 12/30/2012 12:21:21 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: I am Richard Brandon
The British Labour Party (The Left) imported the minorities from all the old colonies - which included Muslims from Pakistan - as a deliberate but secret policy, knowing that they would vote Left and dilute the power of the ethnic white native and autochthonous English (sound familiar)

Yup, this is the same exact strategy the American Democrat party has employed to great success. The conservatives have had their moments when it could have been stopped, but they catered too strongly to their business interests which wanted to import cheap labor.

There was one last opportunity after 9-11. Bush could have shut the borders down. We could have used that moment to slow the demographic changes - and we'd have had the support of a vast majority of the public. Too late now.

31 posted on 12/30/2012 12:28:17 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: driftless2

I said violent crime rate not the number of murders.

British violent crime 4 times that in the US.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2970852/posts
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5712573/UK-is-violent-crime-capital-of-Europe.html


32 posted on 12/30/2012 12:44:25 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Longbow1969

“This is one of those things Pat Buchanan and others really got right.”

They were attacked and marginalized for saying it; their defence of Western Civilization was successfully painted as racism. I have as much contempt for secularized “Americans” as I do for the unwashed hordes that are replacing them; many Americans brought this upon themselves, focusing on reducing others’ birthrates while refusing to breed themselves. It didn’t work...


33 posted on 12/30/2012 2:02:55 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

No, they are not.

96% of the UK is non-Muslim, and the 4% that is includes Muslims from outwith the Middle East or Pakistan. That 4% also includes white and black converts.

96% is not Muslim. And in parts of the UK, there are little or no Muslims. Scotland has just 0.4% of its population as Muslim, Wales much the same, NI even less. The majority of Muslims live in England and live in certain mjaor cities north and south.

The current govt is also introducing complusary language tests (something supported even by the more PC Labour party) and has introduced restrictions on immigration, esp from the ME and the Indian sub-continent and Africa.

The biggest immigrant group of the last 20 yrs into the UK has been the Eastern Europeans (Poles, Romanians etc) who used their new EU membership to exploit EU free movement rules.

Also, Muslims hold no major political or social power in the UK.


34 posted on 12/30/2012 2:30:42 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: YouGoTexasGirl; livius

Cities by their nature are cosmpolitan.

Also, London isnt the UK, just as NY isnt the US.


35 posted on 12/30/2012 2:32:22 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: LouAvul

Why do Americans think the British dont have the right of self-defence?. Sorry, but those of us here at FR who are British are sick and tired of having to correct this myth and tell the facts. We have the right, we have never lost it, and in fact, the laws have been strengthened in our favour.

And neither did the UK have its arms taken all away. Only handguns on the mainland (they are legal in NI as is concealed carry). Rifles and shotguns are legal all over the UK.


36 posted on 12/30/2012 2:35:31 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: IslamE

Over-hysterical analysis.


37 posted on 12/30/2012 2:37:59 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

This has been explained 9million times on here.

The high rate is due to the fact that the UK has so many crimes classified as violent, which are crimes of theft or other classifications in other countries.

The UK has at least 28 different crimes classed as violent.

Taking a ship out in dangerous weather against the crew’s wishes is classed as a minor assault charge here. I kid you not.


38 posted on 12/30/2012 2:41:32 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

Okay...so it’s only three times as violent as the US!


39 posted on 12/30/2012 2:44:54 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: the scotsman

Look at the census for the United Kingdom, look at how many children are born to unwed mothers, the 10th largest request by British kids for Santa Claus was a dad. It has happened, the Anglican Church is a ruined institution, David Cameron, a conservative, promotes gay marriage, so, keep your head in the sand, or better yet just turn in your guns for groceries!


40 posted on 12/30/2012 5:05:53 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: IslamE

Yes, we have great problems, but it is still a good place to live, work and raise a family. Like America.

Cameron is a RINO by your standards. Still, hes better than the alternative.


41 posted on 12/30/2012 5:18:34 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

True, I love your country, I hope you are right, the census was a shock, time will tell, it’s been stressful in the states, I wish I still drank, well, God bless you and your family, I wish you a wonderful New Year.


42 posted on 12/30/2012 6:11:25 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: the scotsman

Cosmopolitan is one thing, but disproportionately Muslim is another. I’m from NYC, and I’d be pretty disturbed if it had the same percentage of fabric swathed females as I saw in London.


43 posted on 12/30/2012 6:21:32 PM PST by livius
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To: the scotsman
And neither did the UK have its arms taken all away. Only handguns on the mainland (they are legal in NI as is concealed carry). Rifles and shotguns are legal all over the UK.

So we are to believe that a Brit can carry around a rifle or shotgun for personal protection? Yeah, right. If you can't carry a concealed handgun, you are disarmed.

44 posted on 12/30/2012 7:45:23 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: the scotsman
And neither did the UK have its arms taken all away. Only handguns on the mainland (they are legal in NI as is concealed carry). Rifles and shotguns are legal all over the UK.

So we are to believe that a Brit can carry around a rifle or shotgun for personal protection? Yeah, right. If you can't carry a concealed handgun, you are disarmed.

45 posted on 12/30/2012 7:45:23 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: the scotsman

Have you seen the books written by Theodore Dalyrimple? Do you think he is accurate in his portrayal of the British underclass, or is he unduly pessimistic in his opinion on the cultural decline?

(not challenging you here, just want your honest opinion)


46 posted on 12/30/2012 10:22:02 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Brits have a more liberal definition for a violent crime than the United States. British large cities (I’ve walked around a number of them) are much more safer than American large cities....that’s a fact.


47 posted on 12/31/2012 2:47:34 AM PST by driftless2
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To: the scotsman
We read the occasional story re somebody (in London?) defending themselves and being hauled away to, well, wherever it is they haul you away to.

Also, I thought your rifles and shotguns were a) only allowed to a select few and b) had to be stored in a facility not your home.

Finally, what kind of rifles and shotguns are we talking about?

48 posted on 12/31/2012 3:51:06 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul
Also, I thought your rifles and shotguns were a) only allowed to a select few and b) had to be stored in a facility not your home.

A select few? Shotgun certificates are easy to obtain. My shooting neighbours grumble about the paperwork, but none have any difficulty in renewing. There could well be more legally-owned shotguns and hunting rifles in circulation now than at any time, given the booming popularity of country shooting sports. (I have two large commercial game shooting estates within hearing distance of my house). No problems with storing them at home, as long as you have a secure gun safe.

Shotguns and sporting rifles have always been by far the most widely-owned categories of gun in Britain, and have scarcely been affected by the various gun control measures. Handguns were always a very small, fringe interest by comparison.

49 posted on 12/31/2012 5:54:54 AM PST by Winniesboy
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To: driftless2

The Brits having a more liberal definition of violent crime is their problem so let them be proud of their being four times more violent than Americans!


50 posted on 12/31/2012 7:11:27 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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