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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 30 December 2012
Various driveby media sources ^ | 30 December 2012 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 12/30/2012 4:25:17 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



December 30th, 2012

Guests to be interviewed on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): President Barack Obama.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill.; Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sen. Chuck U. Schumer, D-N.Y.; Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.; Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md.; Rep. Raul Labrador, R-Idaho.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo.; Rep. Darrel Issa, R-Calif.; Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich.; Rep. Donna Edwards, D-Md.; Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack.


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To: Cheerio
those making less than $200K and $250K

Democrats only intended to extend the Bush tax cuts for the middle class for 1 year, the media won’t report the details even if Democrats let it slip out long ago...

151 posted on 12/30/2012 10:06:55 AM PST by Son House (Romney Plan: Cap Spending At 20 Percent Of GDP.)
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To: chiller

I could see obama doing it. Part of his and the dems goals is to destroy the Republican party. Besides, obama never intends to pay for any of his spending. Hence the huge defecit.


152 posted on 12/30/2012 10:21:30 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Alas Babylon!

Did anyone else see Jonathan Karl on This Week MISQUOTE a comment they showed in a graphic on the show this morning?

I don’t remember who the quote was from, but I remember reading the graphic AS Jonathan Karl was reading it...the very end of the quote said something about “SMALLER government”, yet, Karl read it “BIGGER (or big) government”, and no one said a damned thing about it!


153 posted on 12/30/2012 10:35:49 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Fishtalk

How about...


154 posted on 12/30/2012 11:03:55 AM PST by Happy Rain ("November 6, 2012--the day Joe Smith and Brigham Young finally got their revenge on America.")
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To: ReaganGeneration2
Grahamnesty just said Panetta told him that 800,000 DoD layoff notices go out Wednesday even if this apparent deal IS passed. This is in addition to FY13’s existing 10% cut. This is in addition to 10% cuts in other non-DoD areas this week. Feinsteen said the cuts don’t account for priority, that high priority programs are also cut by 10% (actually 13.3% since it 3+ mo into the FY). That’s a DoD budget that has been cut 23% since last year.

"Sequestration will not happen!"

Un huh. Obama lied to the American people during the final debate with Romney. They media will plaster over this lie, like they do with every other lie.

Meanwhile, our military is going to be gutted.

I hope everyone is satisfied now. Judas sold his soul for 40 pieces of silver. The takers in this country settled for a direct deposit entitlement check from the government.

155 posted on 12/30/2012 11:10:04 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Fishtalk

May I ask you what your unique way of exercising is?


156 posted on 12/30/2012 11:31:10 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Fishtalk

Kabar is the expert on all that.
All I know is that when I give e mail my payroll to my cpa she doubles my SS and its less than what I have been paying in the past. the 2% is doubled so I wind up paying 4% less on SS.I thin kabar said that the govt. picks up the difference and that the taxpayers continue to get fully funded. Typical ozero convoluted plan.IT’s all designed to destroy the country, incrementally.


157 posted on 12/30/2012 11:31:48 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Happy Rain
now the white devil slave master taxpayer racist is financing the obesity related deaths of minorities...

Yup, we need to go back to the "town farms" where the homeless lived in "the poor house" and raised crops and livestock, which they then ate.

They should also have bus service into town so they'd have access to the employment office or job interviews, until they could get into the job market.

Racist? I don't care what color their skin is. How is being a freakin' parasite on working folks a skin color issue?

If they don't toil then neither should they eat.

158 posted on 12/30/2012 11:31:48 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Son House
That's the problem with the entire scenario. The rats have successfully lied so much and distorted everything beyond belief so that no one knows what is going on. Its all done by design.

So when zero gets on tv and says it all our fault a lot of people actually believe it.

You have to ask yourself however if that even makes sense? It doesn't.

So the negotiations go on over minutia.

Negotiating over how much you want to screw the producers in small business borders on insane. Is it 250k 400k, 1 million? It's like asking someone where he would like to be shot, in the head or in the foot.

Meanwhile, other negotiations go on over whether or not to cut the deficit 20 cents or 30 cents when we borrow over a trillion dollars a year more than we take in.

You gotta wonder what alternative universe our legislators live in.

159 posted on 12/30/2012 11:42:06 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Well stated universally accepted pragmatic logical empirically proved by documented historical evidence reasoning...

How dare you you right wing racist extremist!?!?

160 posted on 12/30/2012 11:43:32 AM PST by Happy Rain ("November 6, 2012--the day Joe Smith and Brigham Young finally got their revenge on America.")
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To: Fishtalk

No employers do not get a reduction, only employees who actually see the token tax cut.

Happy new year


161 posted on 12/30/2012 11:44:38 AM PST by bray (Welcome to Obamaville)
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To: Happy Rain
you right wing racist extremist!

THANK EYOOOOOU!!

162 posted on 12/30/2012 12:40:45 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Bernard

The 6.2% FICA tax/contribution being reduced by 2%...

Actually the 2 cents not collected on each dollar earned, is an almost one-third deduction in the amount collected from employed people for their FICA contribution. Not a 2 percent deduction.

It is a shame that the word percent is thrown around so easily. It helps politicians and salespersons to bamboozle the unsuspecting public.

Example: When the sales tax in MD was raised one percentage point from 5% to 6% it was called a one percent increase.

Actual increase out of people’s wallets: 16%


163 posted on 12/30/2012 12:56:01 PM PST by maica
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To: Fishtalk
We got a world where maybe one out of every one hundred thousand people are allergic to nuts and the whole world has to watch out for them.
 
Now I got a lady coming to my book club thing next week and she can’t eat gluten. Anybody got any suggestions/experience with this sort of thing?

Put out a bowl of nuts.

164 posted on 12/30/2012 1:00:25 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
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To: rodguy911

I understand that your accountant doubles the amount of FICA withheld. That is how it’s normally done.

Thus you do not, in effect, pay that 2% either.

Oh, and you are NOT “saving” that other 2% not withheld from the employee. You are, rather, sending in 2% less than what was previously being withheld from the employee.

You ARE saving 2% in that your match is 2% less than it was.

Might seem like an extra 4% to you but the 2% you do not send into the gubmint did cost YOU in that it is part of their take-home pay.

As for Kabar, and he can read this if he wants, but he does use macro-economics that blind us with their brilliance and complexity. He said that the employee IS credited for ALL of the salary he/she made even though now taxed 2% less for it.

For now I believe Kabar as a)I’ve no idea as to the answer and b)Kabar is far more likely to know than I.

But Kabar also said that you WERE paying 6.2% of the match which, as you, RG, describe it, you are not.

Who we gonna believ- Kabar and his big flow charts or RG and his lying accountant?


165 posted on 12/30/2012 1:11:39 PM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: bray

Again, this is not how RG describes it.

And goodness, the man IS running a business and has a payroll.


166 posted on 12/30/2012 1:13:53 PM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: maica
Great catch maica.

My worry is that its all smoke and mirrors.

Here we are in the last hours of debate over how much to attack the few producers we have left still willing to do business here in the US. Everyone is agonizing over a fiscal cliff since the rats refuse to negotiate. They don't have to. They win politically and that's all they care about.Low info voters are on their side.

In truth, the country owes 16 trillion heading for 20 and we borrow 40-42% of every dollar we spend and the big spenders refuse to discuss spending. Worse yet its OK with the voting public.!!

For me its time to go fishing. At least the fish are sane!

167 posted on 12/30/2012 1:21:04 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Fishtalk

YOu are strange at best. You can believe whomever you want.


168 posted on 12/30/2012 1:24:47 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

Okay.....are you angry with me?

I was kidding. I believe YOU! You described your payroll tax submissions perfectly.

sometimes I get silly and type things wrong.

Sorry.

Happy New Year.


169 posted on 12/30/2012 1:33:47 PM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: kabar
Reducing our armed forces to 500,000 is sheer insanity. It sends a powerful message to our enemies and invites adventurism that makes the world less secure.

The message to our enemies has already been delivered, by the use of the "Leading From Behind" policy and the other actions and inactions we have chosen. And the world is less secure. And we can't afford a large military today; it's not the 1960's anymore and we are not the richest nation in the world. We are doing to ourselves what we did to the Soviet Union in the 1980's.

Any future military action we get into will have to be wisely chosen, with a described end AND an actual national interest for us. We have put ourselves in a situation where we can't answer the phone every time somebody calls 911.

Maybe 500,000 is not the right number, but I was referring to permanent active duty personnel. We have to align our military strength to what we can do, not what we used to be able to do.

170 posted on 12/30/2012 2:28:43 PM PST by Bernard (John Kerry as SOS will be the almost-perfect symbol of the Obama administration.)
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To: rodguy911; Fishtalk
Here is how your SS pension is computed. Note that it is based on average indexed monthly earnings, not contributions
171 posted on 12/30/2012 2:49:04 PM PST by kabar
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To: Bernard
Maybe 500,000 is not the right number, but I was referring to permanent active duty personnel.

It is not the right number. You suggested we reduce our active duty force by a1most 1 million to 500,000. You stated in your post #36, "cut the active-duty military to 500,000;"

We have to align our military strength to what we can do, not what we used to be able to do.

We have been doing that for some time now. Clinton made huge cuts to the military as part of the peace dividend reducing our forces by almost a third. Bush 43 built part of the capability back, but it was not anywhere near where it was under his father, Bush 41. We couldn't do an Operation Desert Storm today. We have changed our force structure from fighting two wars at one time to one and one-half to something even less than that today.

Great nations in decline don't immediately reduce their forces signficantly. It is phased in over time rationalizing each step but actually forced by funding shortages. The UK went thru the same thing with their no forces East of Suez and subsequent and continuing cuts in its forces. Western Europe has been doing the same thing with countries spending about 1% of GDP on defense. They had the luxury of the US providing the security umbrella. Today, NATO is really a hollow shell. The welfare state demands more and more money to keep it going. Defense is an easy target.

Next comes ever increasing taxes. The US has a ways to go in that regard. Our people have not experienced European level taxation with its VATs and other fees like paying a television and radio tax for every one of those you own (Germany). Once Obamacare gets going, you will see more pressure for a VAT and cap and trade. There will also be more means testing of government benefits. Still, it will not be enough to fund the welfare state. It will consume everything until it collapses.

172 posted on 12/30/2012 3:09:52 PM PST by kabar
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To: acapesket; A.Hun; Aleya2Fairlie; aligncare; altura; Bender2; Bernard; bray; cajungirl; Carley; ...

Time for the Transcripts!

Fox News Sunday:http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday-chris-wallace/2012/12/30/sens-feinstein-graham-talk-chances-fiscal-cliff-deal

Meet the Press: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50314590/ns/meet_the_press-transcripts/t/december-president-barack-obama-tom-brokaw-jon-meacham-doris-kearns-goodwin-david-brooks-chuck-todd/

Face the Nation: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57561280/face-the-nation-transcripts-december-30-2012-sens-durbin-and-coburn/

This Week: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-senators-charles-schumer-jon-kyl/story?id=18083734

State of the Union: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/30/sotu.01.html and http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/30/sotu.02.html


173 posted on 12/30/2012 3:29:05 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: kabar

Before I retired from the USAF, we had 2.1 million in uniform.

Half a million is a “Kick Me” and no money for hardware sign on America’s backside.


174 posted on 12/30/2012 3:41:07 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Fishtalk

Last time I looked I am running a business too and have payroll. We said the same thing, the employer doesn’t get the reduction only the employee for political points.

Happy New Year


175 posted on 12/30/2012 3:41:49 PM PST by bray (Welcome to Obamaville)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yep. The military has been in decline for some time. We try to rationalize it thru better weapons, a more professional force, etc. But there is no doubt that our conventional warfare capabilities are not what they were 20 or thirty years ago. And there is also no doubt that the Chinese capabilities are increasing.


176 posted on 12/30/2012 3:57:37 PM PST by kabar
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To: Alas Babylon!

That last line should read: Half a million and no money for hardware is a “Kick Me” sign on America’s backside.


177 posted on 12/30/2012 4:19:03 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Bernard

Not that my opinion is worth a hill of beans, but I thought the segment was very well done, and in fact, took nowhere near 45 minutes; maybe 10-12 max.


178 posted on 12/30/2012 5:00:02 PM PST by nfldgirl
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To: Alas Babylon!
thank you, very much for the transcripts. ;-)

179 posted on 12/30/2012 5:53:33 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: Fishtalk

Gluten intolerance is quite real and rather painful. Ask her to bring her own snack as you know nothing about gluten. Not that I am insulting you, it’s not as uncommon as it used to be, and you would both be more comfortable.
She should not expect you to conform to her dietary issue, it’s her issue.
End of story.


180 posted on 12/30/2012 8:28:59 PM PST by acapesket
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