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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 30 December 2012
Various driveby media sources ^ | 30 December 2012 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 12/30/2012 4:25:17 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



December 30th, 2012

Guests to be interviewed on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): President Barack Obama.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill.; Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sen. Chuck U. Schumer, D-N.Y.; Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.; Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md.; Rep. Raul Labrador, R-Idaho.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo.; Rep. Darrel Issa, R-Calif.; Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich.; Rep. Donna Edwards, D-Md.; Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack.


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To: Fishtalk
Anybody got any suggestions/experience with this sort of thing?

Yeah, gluten (glue)...found in abundance in refined wheat flour.

It's "a protein composite found in foods processed from wheat, barley and rye. Gluten gives elasticity to dough, helping it rise and keep its shape and often gives the final product a chewy texture."

Most processed foods contain a lot of it. That and tons of sugar are probably a large reason why Americans are so...well, large.

121 posted on 12/30/2012 8:27:58 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Bernard

Do the employers get a 2% reduction in their match?

If not, hell’s bell’s, where does their extra 2% go?

Does the employee still get credit for full salary or do they goose up the value of the dudctions to determine the salry on which to base the Social Security comes time to collect.

Inquiring minds want to know.


122 posted on 12/30/2012 8:30:10 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Fishtalk

LOL, I don’t think I’d be going out to eat if I had to do all that.

So what’s your secret exercise routine?


123 posted on 12/30/2012 8:30:18 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Bernard
I watch the MSM talking heads because Don Corleone was right—keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer...only this time on MTP (DNC Dave and Obama exchanging STDs?) the intelligence is just too predictable and boring to be worth much.

Still, I even visit the loony liberal Internet forums cuz we lose through ignorance of the Evil Lefts' grass roots think tanks.

Think any good general or diplomat during WWII DID NOT read Mein Kampf?

124 posted on 12/30/2012 8:30:39 AM PST by Happy Rain (Outlawing firearms because of Adam Lanza would be like outlawing free speech because of Bill Maher.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I appreciate your response but I am still curious.

Should I serve her something with NO flour of any sort in it? I mean, come on, I am serving a shrimp platter. Surely shrimp has no gluten? I am not frying, just steamed shrimp, peeled and de-veined.

Hummous? No gluten, right?

Clementines, in top season right now as I type, surely they have no gluten?

The little crab cakes are breaded so I understand there’s probably gluten.

Also, gluten isn’t fattening, is it?


125 posted on 12/30/2012 8:34:03 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I appreciate your response but I am still curious.

Should I serve her something with NO flour of any sort in it? I mean, come on, I am serving a shrimp platter. Surely shrimp has no gluten? I am not frying, just steamed shrimp, peeled and de-veined.

Hummous? No gluten, right?

Clementines, in top season right now as I type, surely they have no gluten?

The little crab cakes are breaded so I understand there’s probably gluten.

Also, gluten isn’t fattening, is it?


126 posted on 12/30/2012 8:34:39 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Fishtalk
What about the 2% reduct in FICA withholding? THAT affects waaaaaay more people than most anything. Keep ear open for this as if they don’t renew it the hollering will be deafening.

I have no doubt that the public will be hollering, but the payroll tax holiday for the past two years has increased our debt and deficit by close to two hundred billion dollars. It is just another stimulus package.

Source: CBO “Combined OASDI Trust Funds; January 2011 Baseline” 26 Jan 2011. Note: See “Primary Surplus” line (which is negative, indicating a deficit)

Matters are even worse than this chart shows. In December, Congress passed a Social Security tax reduction. Workers are temporarily paying 2 percentage points less, from 6.2 percent to 4.2 percent, in Social Security payroll taxes this calendar year. Since the government is making up the shortfall out of general revenues, CBO’s deficit projections for the trust funds do not include that. But CBO’s figures predict that the “payroll tax holiday” will cost the government’s general fund $85 billion in this fiscal year and $29 billion in fiscal year 2012 (which starts Oct.1, 2011.) Since every dollar of that will have to be borrowed, the combined effect of the ” tax holiday” and the annual deficits will amount to a $130 billion addition to the federal deficit in the current fiscal year, and $59 billion in fiscal 2012.

Social Security has passed a tipping point. For years it generated more revenue than it consumed, holding down the overall federal deficit and allowing Congress to spend more freely for other things. But those days are gone. Rather than lessening the federal deficit, Social Security has at last — as long predicted — become a drag on the government’s overall finances.

As recently as October, CBO was projecting that it would be 2016 before outlays regularly exceed revenues. But Social Security’s fiscal troubles are more severe than was thought, and the latest projections show the permanent deficits started several years ahead of earlier predictions.

Don’t be confused by the fact that the trust funds are projected to continue growing for several more years. That’s because Treasury must still credit interest payments to the funds on the borrowings from earlier years. But unless taxes are increased or other spending is cut severely, the government will have to borrow from the public to pay the interest that it owes to the trust funds.

And don’t be misled by those who say the system can pay full benefits until about 2037 without making any changes to the law. That’s true, but does not change the fact that Social Security taxes no longer cover those benefits. The government is now borrowing money to pay them, and will do so every year for the foreseeable future. And keep in mind, if nothing is done, when those trust funds are exhausted, benefits would have to be cut by 22 percent in 2037, and more each year after that, according to the most recent report of the system’s trustees. By 2084, the system will generate only enough revenue to pay for 75 percent of promised benefit levels.

Anyone who thinks that the payroll tax holiday should continue is a low information voter. It is pure and simple a scam. It is just another unfunded stimulus package that increases our debt and deficit.

127 posted on 12/30/2012 8:35:04 AM PST by kabar
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To: Fishtalk

sushi


128 posted on 12/30/2012 8:39:26 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: Girlene; Fishtalk
Maybe she said guard, not armed guard.

I think she did say "armed guard". I also believe the guard at Columbine was on break and too far away to hit anything with a pistol.

129 posted on 12/30/2012 8:44:30 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: Girlene
So what’s your secret exercise routine?

First off, heh, I actually got a 1099 from Chicken Soup for the Soul publishers.....can't deny Obama's voters their cell phones now can we?

A long while back I actually told the story, on THIS very thread, of how my dog was attacked as I walked lawfully upon my public street, as she was harnessed and tethered with sturdy leash. I was taking her for a walk as was my wont but TWO dogs, different occassions, came out of nowhere and attacked her.

She didn't kill the dogs but one was a little dog, the other a cocker spaniel. They came out from their yards and attacked her on the street. They survived her defense but come on, she's a Belgian Malinois...a very protective dog. And in her dog mind she was protecting ME.

Vet says some dogs, other dogs see them as a threat and attack them. Neither case was my dog doing a thing wrong.

But the hell with it. I decided no more do I walk dog.

Still and so she needs exercise and so do I.

So I began walking around my yard. Indeed, in circles, a circle 75 feet in diameter. Yeah, got a "dirt ring" in my yard but I take picture of it to show doctors my exercise ring.

There are a gazillion things to do while walking...talk on cell phone, record my two do list, listen to my MP3 player, radio talk shows....yada, yada. Besides, how is walking around in circles in my yard much different than walking on one of those walking exercise machines?

Also have cooling fan set up on deck, lawn chair, take coffee out and yeah, dogs walks in circles with me.

Normal exercise session is 30 walks around dirt circle. This equals, converting feet to yards, about 7 1/2 football fields that I walk-four times a week.

Dog gets to play frisbee at intervals, chasing ball. I also do all back yard work, picking up fallen "tree" lumber, tossing compost pile, brushing dog, filling bird feeders.

That's another thing, I adore birds and love being out with them. They're all so used to me they just fly down and get seeds right by my head...."don't mind me, you keep on walking."

Story was printed in a Chicken Soup for the Soul book titled "A NEW YOU".

My doctor was so impressed she put my book in her waiting room. also go to local book signings, that sort of thing.

AND I MUST REPORT MY INCOME.....HEH.

130 posted on 12/30/2012 8:47:38 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: kabar
The bottom line is that the American public wants all of the benefits of the welfare state but without paying for them. I say let's go over the cliff and present the American people with the bill instead of insulating them from the costs, which are passed down to their children and grandchildren.

I"ll second that.

131 posted on 12/30/2012 8:47:45 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Fishtalk

Exaclty FIsh it never ends!
(I’m tired of saving the world my kids left some mimosa mix....)


132 posted on 12/30/2012 8:48:57 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Bernard
sort of like poking yourself with a bullet hoping that repetition can overcome the slow rate of penetration.

Can you say Cloward/Piven...

133 posted on 12/30/2012 8:50:57 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Gluten is profitable because it gives a satisfactery if ersatz “full feeling” to the consumer in practically any snack or processed food...

...without it, munchies may taste good but the message from the stomach is that you actually ate nothing (most snacks are puffed and poofed yet are really small portions) much like cotton candy.

If anything gluten has helped to prevent obesity by making pigs pay top dollar for puffy poofy food lower in calories than what the porky appetites thought ingested.

It’s the availiability of free welfare food, the smug entitlement gloating of others being forced to pay for the maintenance of your fat lazy ass, and depression triggered glutony that makes the pig.

134 posted on 12/30/2012 8:53:08 AM PST by Happy Rain (Outlawing firearms because of Adam Lanza would be like outlawing free speech because of Bill Maher.)
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To: Bernard
You haven't answered my questions on exactly how you would restructure our forces if you cut the overall staffing by two thirds or close to a million active duty forces.

Yes. We have nuclear weapons, and a distinct advantage in drone / remote warfare technology.

You need some other options besides nuclear war and drones. And you need the personnel and delivery systems to make them work.

And we are not in a declared war.

WWII was our last declared war. We face asymetrical threats. OBL declared war on the US in 1996.

Along with the 1.4 million active duty you cite, we also have the 20,000 contractor Secretary Of State army in Iraq, the TSA, and other people we don't want to call military on various payrolls all over the place.

So how would you defend our diplomatic and NGO presence in Iraq? If you think that TSA is a quasi military force then how about police and other state and local law enforcement personnel? Or the FBI? Or the CIA? Or NSA?

So if we did have a shooting war, and we can send in drones or warplanes stationed in Missouri, why do we need a military geared to sending 300-400,000 troops somewhere for years at a time with no end result in mind?

We don't have 300,000 to 400,000 troops to send anywhere now. Our military has already been significantly cut over the past decade. We need to look at what the threats are and how to best combat them now and in the future.

We also need to ask such questions as to what our role in the world is in terms of strategic security interests. Do we need to keep the sea lanes open around the world? We have a navy now of 323,000 with less than 300 ships, down significantly from the days when I served in the 60s and 70s when we had a 600 ship navy.

You can rationalize all the cuts you want but there are irreducible limits that should not be passed. You cannot reconstitute a trained military force overnight. It could take a generation to replace a trained cadre of people given the sophistication of our weapons systems and the training needed. And it depends on a steady influx of people to move up thru the ranks gaining experience and training.

Reducing our armed forces to 500,000 is sheer insanity. It sends a powerful message to our enemies and invites adventurism that makes the world less secure.

135 posted on 12/30/2012 8:55:15 AM PST by kabar
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To: Fishtalk
As an employer I am now paying 5.65% instead of 7.65% for payroll taxes. The SS/medicare part of that amount gets doubled when I actually pay the taxes,not the withholding.So for now I pay 4% less,it helps sabotage the system. But makes the regime look good since they are once again looking out for the little guy. More like watching him drown in truth.
136 posted on 12/30/2012 8:55:30 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Fishtalk
I think all your seafood preparations should be safe as long as they have no flour in them.

gluten isn’t fattening, is it?

Probably not, but the flour also contains tons of starch, which is. After all, farmers fatten up livestock on a grain diet....not cheeseburgers.

137 posted on 12/30/2012 8:56:43 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: kabar

Very well said.


138 posted on 12/30/2012 8:57:59 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Fishtalk

Walking is very good for you......a lot harder to do in the winter (at least for me). That’s always a problem once the real winter hits, like now. Maybe I’ll try walking around the garage. :-)

Congratulations on your story being published!


139 posted on 12/30/2012 9:01:41 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Fishtalk
Do the employers get a 2% reduction in their match?

No.

If not, hell’s bell’s, where does their extra 2% go?

The employer pays the same amount as does the self-employed. The SSTF receives the amount of the reduction from Treasury in the form of non-market, interest bearing T-bills, which holds SS harmless for the reduction in revenue. However, the shortfall must be made up by cashing in the T-bills by redeeming them from the General Fund, which borrows 42 cents of every federal dollar spent. Thus, the payroll tax holiday is just another unfunded stimulus.

Does the employee still get credit for full salary or do they goose up the value of the dudctions to determine the salry on which to base the Social Security comes time to collect.

The individual contribution is credited as though the full payment was made.

140 posted on 12/30/2012 9:07:37 AM PST by kabar
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