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Nation Running Out of Ammo
Legal Insurrection ^ | December 28, 2012 | William A Jacobsen

Posted on 12/29/2012 1:22:34 AM PST by lbryce

Reaction to threats by Senator Dianne Feinstein and others to ban certain weapons and serverely restrict ownership of guns generally has caused a run on gun stores, as is widely reported.

Less reported is the run on ammunition, leaving ammunition inventories down 93% since election day.

So reports Traction Control blog, Plunge! Ammunition Levels Less Than 10% of Pre-Election Levels:

Ammunition Stock levels have fallen by more than 90% from the pre-Election Day levels. Less than 10% remains available. Available Ammunition links will be updated throughout the day.

Handguns are down by 80%, Long Guns by 63% for an overall 72.2% reduction in firearms inventories.

AR pattern rifles are becoming particularly difficult to source.

In some locations, ammunition is hard to find:

Gun buyers in Houston have bought up the entire inventory of AR guns. It is not just the guns. The ammunition is sold out. The magazines are sold out, and not just the magazines that hold 30 or more rounds. Even finding a 10-round magazine is elusive. And ammunition? The smaller boxes of ammunition in the 223-556 calibers may be found, but not the larger boxes. Try calling Top Gun, Academy, Carter Country and other stores and you will get more or less the same answer: “We are sold out entirely, we have no idea when we are getting new stock in, and we have no idea what the pricing will be.” Even the online sites that deal in guns and ammo are now low on inventory as sales have spiked.

Investors are noticing what it will mean for ammunition manufacturers in 2013:

Right now, ammo is severely constrained in all major retail stores and online. Local checks by the author at multiple Academy Sports and Outdoors, (which is owned by (KKR), Walmart (WMT), and Dicks Sporting Goods (DKS) have all meet with the same feedback — gun sales, especially of AR-type weapons and pistols, are highly elevated, with some places being sold out of AR-type weapons. Ammo is scarce for popular rounds such as 9mm, .40 cal, .223, and 7.62×39.

Online stores such as are also sold out on many popular rounds. We had to go all the way to the 9th product page to find 9mm in a 50 round box for sale! …

Clearly, ammo is in high demand right now, and from our point of view, it has never been harder to find.

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ammo; banglist; colddeadhands; usrevolution3
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To: lbryce

Well, there goes range time. Don’t want to burn up your stash.

41 posted on 12/29/2012 7:00:30 AM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: RandallFlagg
Next tax return, I’ll be getting everything needed for reloading

Good plan. However, not to sound like a know-it-all because I am not sure if this is the case this time around....but in the summer of 2009, re-loaders were hosed out too. It wasn't just the inability to keep finished ammo on the shelf, but a lack of components too.

In spring/summer 2009, the largest ammo manufacturers in the U.S. were back ordered 50 million plus primers. And, assuming each gun buyer in 2009 bought 1000 rounds each......that would be over 14 Billion rounds purchased in 2009 by our fellow Americans.......I know I personally bought well over 1000 rounds........and I don't remember the panic being quite to this level even in Nov-Dec 2008 after the election.

I don't reload my own, but from what I've been reading on various forums, other re-loaders try to maintain 10s of thousands of primers on hand at any given time.........all that to say that if you plan on doing that - get your hands on as many primers as soon as you can, FRiend.

42 posted on 12/29/2012 7:08:09 AM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: MachIV
>>When they come to take your guns, give them your ammo first at 1500 ft./sec.<<

2100 ft./sec.

Give up your weapons, lay down your freedom. Not sure the grabbers understand just how passionate Americans are about their freedom.

The keg hasn’t been sparked yet, but I’m seeing folks getting awful close to the powder.

God forbid. I hope the gun grabbers back off, I really do.

43 posted on 12/29/2012 7:08:30 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: ExSoldier

Yep ammo is available ..... Merry New Year !

Stay Safe !

44 posted on 12/29/2012 7:17:03 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: lbryce


45 posted on 12/29/2012 8:27:42 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: clearcarbon
alchemists extraordinaire...
46 posted on 12/29/2012 8:39:15 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: mosaicwolf

Guess I went overboard. Just over 33K total, 1/3 5.56, 1/3 22LR, and the rest between .308 and scattered rifle/shotgun/pistol calibers. None less that 500 rounds. And looking to get more. Powder and primers just waiting to be used.
I never thought I would be this concerned about things this late in my life; guess I was just not thinking right when I was younger.

47 posted on 12/29/2012 8:52:26 AM PST by rustyboots
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To: mosaicwolf
My rule of thumb where I live is 1000 rounds per caliber except 22 cal. Need at least 10,000 rounds of 22 for small game and barter. Good luck. Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed.

My rule of thumb is 10,000 rounds per AR, 5000 rounds per pistol and 1000 rounds per tactical shotgun.

48 posted on 12/29/2012 9:28:30 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

“Has anyone use the THERMOULD Magazines?”

They are second rate. Buy MagPull.

49 posted on 12/29/2012 10:05:51 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: KeyLargo

I read on their (CTD) site that they are going back to selling firearms `once the buying frenzy ends’. That’s the excuse they are using for bending over a couple weeks ago.
I use steel mags from former Soviet bloc states and have good luck recently with Tapco plastic mags. Of course you want to test every mag to make sure it feeds OK.
Steel mags over your armor vest helps protect your vital organs.

Hard to believe we’re/I’m talking like this ... Thanks for bring the country together Bam!

50 posted on 12/29/2012 10:22:49 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Repeat Offender

I’m hoping that the manufacturers will have had time to restock by the time I get everything else set up. I’ll be building my reloading benches in a large shed in my back yard.

Gonna take a bit of time.
But, between then and now, I’ll stop at Sportsmen’s Warehouse to buy a box or two of primers, brass, powders, bullets, etc. every once in a while, and keep ‘em in my safes.

51 posted on 12/29/2012 10:44:41 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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To: APatientMan

Ammo-link ping!

52 posted on 12/29/2012 12:35:55 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: SVTCobra03

I’d rather the 10K rounds of .22 LR. You can carry a thousand rounds on you and can plink, relatively unseen from great distances.

.22 rounds can be lethal up to 400 yards, for a deft shooter. If you only wound, well then that’s 4 people that have to carry the sorry SOB off the field of battle.

You get nailed with a .22 round out of a long rifle you are in a world of hurt.

.22LRs are severely underrated in SHTF situations!

53 posted on 12/29/2012 3:57:12 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Bshaw
You get nailed with a .22 round out of a long rifle you are in a world of hurt.

A lot of Pennsylvania deer would attest to that were they not now rendered into provisions for freezers all across the state.

54 posted on 12/29/2012 4:01:20 PM PST by Sirius Lee (Sarah Palin - "Republicans like Rove... are said to be concerned she will win.")
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To: facedown
Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed



55 posted on 12/29/2012 4:22:44 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Squantos
Yep ammo is available

There's only 7 boxes of .300 Savage in this whole town... what you talking about?

56 posted on 12/29/2012 4:25:01 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: MileHi



57 posted on 12/29/2012 4:57:35 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: facedown
It's a fine time of year to be reminded.


58 posted on 12/29/2012 5:02:50 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: lbryce
Hmmm...All those tinfoil-hat wingnuts (during the late 90's) claiming that there was a gathering storm of tyranny on the horizon and, therefore, overstocked on guns, ammo, and mags sure must be printing lots of "I told you so" cards...

The new "gold"?

1000-round cases of .223/NATO and 7.62 x 39 @ $68 - $79 now going for about 10-to-15 times more? Even gold coin bought @ $234-$265 in early 2000's hasn't appreciated that much...

Thankyou Janet and Bill...You aren't forgotten...

59 posted on 12/29/2012 5:22:05 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Candor7

.223? Here’s some:

60 posted on 12/29/2012 5:43:58 PM PST by TheBigJ
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