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Russia's Kalashnikov in Intensive Care: Reports
AFP ^ | Dmitry Zaks

Posted on 12/26/2012 4:49:47 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: donmeaker

M-1 is a semi-auto isn’t it?
You haven’t got my idea. Intermediate cartridge was alive and well before WWII.
It was Germans who first used it into a fully auto rifle making it any practical for the first time and it was Kalashnikov who made first standard issue assault rifle using that idea.
Fully auto weapons you mentioned were around for a long time.
Most of they aren’t actually a rifles.


41 posted on 12/27/2012 10:47:05 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Lockbar

Exactly right !!

German technology plagerized.

Russian military might is the result of western innovation.


42 posted on 12/28/2012 3:19:45 AM PST by MountainYankee
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To: cunning_fish

Of course the intermediate cartridge was alive and well before WWII. The .30 Carbine cartridge is an example. So is the 7.92x33 used in the MP-43. Of course the M43 Soviet cartridge (7.62x39) would not be an example of a cartridge used before WWII. The Mannlicher Carcano and Swiss Mausers used a 6.5, the Marines used a Lee Rifle in 6mm about the time of the Boxer Rebellion. The Spanish Mauser used against the US in Cuba was 7mm.

The Soviet M43 Cartridge has a muzzle velocity of about 2300 feet per second. That is nearly the same as the US .30 Krag (aka .30/40)

The M-1 Carbine was fielded by the US and the Germans captured some of them in 1942.

Germany, fielded their first prototypes of MP-43 in 1943.

The M-2 Carbine is fully automatic. Looks like the M-1, just as the M-14 looks like Springfield Armory’s M-1A. Difference is the selector switch.


43 posted on 12/28/2012 8:51:50 AM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: john drake

The Safety on it was borrowed from the venerable Browning design for the Auto-5.


44 posted on 12/28/2012 8:54:46 AM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker

The M-1 was designed to be select fire, between the wars. The initial issue was semiautomatic only. The US began issuing the M-2 Carbine, fully automatic, with a 30 round magazine in 1944. A T-17 or T-18 conversion kit converts the M-1 to fully automatic.

Very popular with the 101 and 82 Airborne, as you can schlepp a lot of ammunition.


45 posted on 12/28/2012 9:03:37 AM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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Nossir. To see how the grammar is actually impeccable, do the following:

An aide to the 93-year-old father of the AK-47 said Kalashnikov had been (having heart problems) and (feeling poorly) since March.

Deconstruct the sentence to use each clause one at a time.

An aide to the 93-year-old father of the AK-47 said Kalashnikov had been having heart problems since March. *PERMISSIBLE*

An aide to the 93-year-old father of the AK-47 said Kalashnikov had been feeling poorly since March. *PERMISSIBLE*

The sentence gots good grammerz.

46 posted on 12/28/2012 9:09:07 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: MountainYankee

Actually, the AK-47 was designed by Kalashnikov, he just derived much of it from American weapons-the bolt was derived from the M1 Carbine’s, the safety from the Remington Model 8 rifle, the trigger from the Browning Auto-5 shotgun.


47 posted on 12/28/2012 3:38:48 PM PST by Jacob Kell
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To: Jacob Kell

Interesting. A very clever mechanic indeed!


48 posted on 12/29/2012 3:02:57 AM PST by MountainYankee
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To: MountainYankee

You got it, MY, especially since he apparently knew that when it came to firearms, the Germans were overrated, while we Americans were and are the shitznitz.


49 posted on 12/31/2012 2:14:07 PM PST by Jacob Kell
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