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Gunman who ambushed firefighters killed grandmother in 1980, police say (Banned From Owning Guns)
NBC News ^ | December 24, 2012 | Jason White

Posted on 12/24/2012 1:54:39 PM PST by Pinkbell

The gunman who ambushed four volunteer firefighters, killing two, in upstate New York had spent 17 years in prison for beating his grandmother to death with a hammer in 1980, police said.

Undated booking photo of William Spengler, who shot and killed two firefighters Monday.

William Spengler opened fire on the volunteers as they responded to a blaze just before 6 a.m. ET in a small cluster of homes along Lake Ontario in Webster, N.Y., police said, rocking this close-knit community.

The 62-year-old convicted felon had apparently set a trap, firing on the first responders from atop an earthen berm.

"It does appear that it was a trap that was set," said Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering, his voice breaking at times. “People who get up in the middle of the night to fight fires, they don’t expected to get shot and killed."

Pickering lost a colleague in the incident: Police Lieutenant Michael Chiapperini, who was a volunteer firefighter. The other firefighter killed by Spengler was Tomasz Kaczowka.

Despite being shot, one of the injured firefighters was able to flee from scene under his own power. But the others remained pinned down on the narrow strip of land between Lake Ontario and Irondequoit Bay until a SWAT team arrived.

As police closed in, Spengler took his own life with a gunshot wound to the head, Pickering said. He was convicted of manslaughter in 1981 after the death of his grandmother, Rose Spengler, and was paroled in 1998.

Spengler's 67-year-old sister Cheryl Spengler is unaccounted for, Pickering said. Spengler lived in the house with his sister and mother, Arline, who died in October.

Prior to Monday's shooting, Webster police had not had any run-ins with Spengler since he was paroled, they said.

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The money quote right here:

Police would not say what kinds of guns Spengler used, but as a convicted felon, he could not legally own firearms.

Here's a perfect example of a person banned from getting guns who wanted guns getting them anyway.

This is a travesty on Christmas Eve. Those poor families. These men were heroes who volunteered their time to make the world a better and safer place. They didn't deserve to be taken out by this lunatic.

Why was this lunatic out of a jail? HE BEAT HIS GRANDMOTHER TO DEATH WITH A HAMMER! He should have never seen the light of day. What was wrong with that parole board?

1 posted on 12/24/2012 1:54:52 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

Gun prosecutions under Obama down more than 45 percent
http://washingtonexaminer.com/gun-prosecutions-under-obama-down-more-than-45-percent/article/2516175#.UNCXuHfZ-pc
Exclude DC, Chicago, LA, Philly, E.St.louis &   Baltimore and we’d probably have  the gun murder rate of Switzerland.

I wonder what the execution rate is down to?


2 posted on 12/24/2012 1:57:03 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Pinkbell

He should have been executed!


3 posted on 12/24/2012 1:57:27 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Pinkbell

Liberal judge liberal system New York liberals....


4 posted on 12/24/2012 1:57:45 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Pinkbell
It was most likely not a so called "Assault Rifle" or they would have released that detail right after this occured.

We have let liberals control the language for too long. Any weapon used in an assault is an assault weapon; be it a baseball bat, knife, vehicle, piece of log chain, tazer.

5 posted on 12/24/2012 1:59:50 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: Pinkbell
Here's a perfect example of a person banned from getting guns who wanted guns getting them anyway.

This fact will not get traction in the national Pravda media.

It's counter to their agenda.

6 posted on 12/24/2012 2:00:59 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Newbomb Turk

Wayne LaPierre personally gave him the gun...even signed it for him. Just ask Prince Morganna.


7 posted on 12/24/2012 2:01:04 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Pinkbell

Why is there parole for murderers?


8 posted on 12/24/2012 2:02:15 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Pinkbell

He kills Granny with a hammer, and Mom and Sis still let him live there? There’s a whole lot of messed up in this family.


9 posted on 12/24/2012 2:02:20 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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Well he obviously learned his lesson and didn’t use a hammer.s/s

Why didn’t ‘they’ just put up a ‘NO GUN ZONE’ sign in his front yard as apparently the law didn’t make it clear enough that you shouldn’t fire on firefighters doing their job.


10 posted on 12/24/2012 2:02:38 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Red Steel

Assault hammer, and now an assault gun.


11 posted on 12/24/2012 2:02:52 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

And/or a whole lot of weird.


12 posted on 12/24/2012 2:06:11 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: TurboZamboni
'Gun prosecutions peaked at 10,937 under Bush in 2004. A current TRAC report shows that the Obama administration is prosecuting about 6,000 weapons cases.'

Good. Perhaps there was too many prosecutions under Pres. Bush having to do with guns away.

13 posted on 12/24/2012 2:10:52 PM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: Pinkbell

Guns aren’t the problem. What was the Bag ‘O **** doing out of prison?


14 posted on 12/24/2012 2:11:36 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (U.S. elections have become nothing but another cheap ripoff of American Idol.)
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To: Pinkbell

If only murdering firefighters was against the law...


15 posted on 12/24/2012 2:12:17 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Pinkbell

If only murdering firefighters was against the law...


16 posted on 12/24/2012 2:12:17 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Pinkbell
Too many, too fast, too convenient all with weird cirmcumstances.

Normally I don't buy into conspiracies but Fast and Furious and Benghazi have convinced me that nothing is beyond this progressive diease infecting our government.

I really do believe they are looking for violence.

17 posted on 12/24/2012 2:15:00 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (We have crossed the line from independence & liberty to dependency & servitude. We are doomed)
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To: Pinkbell

Televised hangings - a great deterrent and one heck of a reality TV program.


18 posted on 12/24/2012 2:18:17 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: CaptainK
Why is there parole for murderers?

In New York, felons have voting rights.

19 posted on 12/24/2012 2:18:25 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Pinkbell

You’re right Pinkbell. You don’t take guns away from the good guys because of the bad ones....the bad ones can get them any time.


20 posted on 12/24/2012 2:18:47 PM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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