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Yes, gay is a choice, get over it.
American Thinker ^ | 12/24/2012 | Robert Oscar Lopez

Posted on 12/24/2012 8:14:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind

According to Peter Schmidt in the Chronicle of Higher Education, yet another individual working in higher education has been demolished for saying the wrong thing about homosexuality. The basis on which to define people as "anti-gay" has, however, taken a turn to the absurd (and eerie).

Unlike Angela McCaskill, who was nearly fired from Gallaudet University for signing a petition on gay marriage, Crystal Dixon of the University of Toledo was fired for writing an editorial in a local newspaper. She referred to Exodus and mentioned people who chose to leave the gay lifestyle.

For this column I will stick to the gay male angle, since I have but 1,200 words. Even if we accepted, for argument's sake (which I do not accept), that McCaskill was "anti-gay" because she signed a petition, the case against Dixon is based purely on wild assumptions about sex. To fire Dixon, one must accept that gay men cannot stop themselves from having anal sex or engaging in fellatio. Without anal sex or fellatio, it would seem that a gay couple is tough to distinguish from roommates who like to kiss each other once in a while.

These assumptions bestialize and infantilize gay men. While I have tired of penning editorials about gay controversies, the situation is dire. I feel compelled to write a column once again emphasizing a basic reality: gay sex is a choice. Nobody lacks the power to refrain from having gay sex. Get. Over. It.

Dixon said that gays had the choice to leave the lifestyle (in other words, stop engaging in anal sex and fellatio). According to her detractors, such was tantamount to being anti-gay. Her detractors are following the lead of the Southern Poverty Law Center, which lists "conversion therapy" as a hate crime.

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1 posted on 12/24/2012 8:14:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Homosexuality is a form of mental disease. There is nothing “gay” about it. That word has been hijacked by sodomites to help make the poison go down.


2 posted on 12/24/2012 8:17:52 AM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: SeekAndFind

To be fare, it is often a “choice” as a coping mechanism to deal with sex abuse and homosexual rape.

Several studies place that figure above 80%.


3 posted on 12/24/2012 8:19:12 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Nobody lacks the power to refrain from having gay sex. Get. Over. It.”

Exactly. It’s that simple. May God bless the author of this article in his current life with his wife.


4 posted on 12/24/2012 8:22:05 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: SeekAndFind
It used to be common knowledge. Many women's colleges (and male societies) had a fair amount of homosexual activity. Not a good thing, but people generally didn't lose a lot of sleep over it (so to speak). Then the participants would grow up, get married, and have normal lives.

Given that not-so-hidden past history, to say that a homosexual lifestyle cannot be a choice, but can only be "the way God made them" is utterly ridiculous.

5 posted on 12/24/2012 8:25:43 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Republicans have made themselves useless, toothless, and clueless.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am currently reading a biography on Whitaker Chambers. I was stunned to learn that he was bisexual (during his years as a Communist). Yes he did give it up. When he turned to God. That is the answer. It IS a choice.


6 posted on 12/24/2012 8:28:56 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Didn’t the Communists used to infiltrate some British universities with homosexuals as a way of recruiting spies for the Soviet Union?


7 posted on 12/24/2012 8:32:24 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: SeekAndFind

Just ask odumbi, he’ll tell ya. Gay is a choice and odumbi is all about pro-choice.


8 posted on 12/24/2012 8:33:23 AM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: SeekAndFind
A man can live a heterosexual life for decades, be a husband and father, then suddenly decide he's gay. The gay lobby proclaims that he has "found himself" or some such.

But going in the other direction (gay to straight) is impossible, unnatural, and a hate crime to even say it could happen?

9 posted on 12/24/2012 8:33:48 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind
There are bisexuals. I am one of them. Why include us in these categories if you think we don't exist?

Sick. But it's true. Bisexuality is obviously a choice. Sodomites seem to forget that.

10 posted on 12/24/2012 8:35:38 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: SeekAndFind

Reminds me of some really pointless arguments I’ve had with college age know-everythings...asking them to explain exactly how a “gay gene” ever gets passed on.


11 posted on 12/24/2012 8:39:43 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: ReformationFan

Not exactly sure about that. I could easily see the Soviets using homosexual behavior as method of blackmailing people into submission and getting them to do what they wanted them to do as far as espionage is concerned.


12 posted on 12/24/2012 8:44:19 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: PapaBear3625

Meredith Baxter has been married three times and has had three children. She’s 71 and has recently decided that she is a lesbian. She says the David Birney her formed husband abused her.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/actress-meredith-baxter-abused-husband-david-birney/story?id=13029302


13 posted on 12/24/2012 8:45:15 AM PST by Essie
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To: SeekAndFind

The irony is that in America, we believe, and make entire industries of, changing our habits and behavior. We are convinced, we can break addictions to alcohol, we can lose hundreds of pounds of excess weight, we can change sedentary lifestyles into athletic ones, we believe we can stop smoking, or taking drugs.

But the PC left does not allow anyone to say that a homosexual can change his behavior....


14 posted on 12/24/2012 8:46:38 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Essie

The other side of the story:

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20471466,00.html


15 posted on 12/24/2012 8:55:29 AM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: fattigermaster

The idea, I guess, is that gay people help their relatives pass on their genes, some of which are recessive gay genes. But that seems like a stretch. You may share 50% of your genes with your siblings or one-eighth with your cousins, but you share 100% of your genes with yourself.


16 posted on 12/24/2012 8:55:42 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: SeekAndFind

What I find frustrating is how my friends who are pro-LGBT simply ignore testimonials like this. You can bring it up to them in a discussion—but then they simply ignore the evidence without bothering to attempt to refute it.


17 posted on 12/24/2012 8:55:52 AM PST by Lysandru
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Bisexuals are included for political purposes in the LGBT pretend alliance. They’re the “B” part. Aside from that, though, everyone basically pretends they don’t exist. If called on it gays’d say they’re “born that way.” But it’s entirely too confusing to simultaneously claim you can only be born gay or straight, oh yeah, unless you’re both.

Something similar occurs with trannies, who are grouped with the rest even though they may be perfectly straight. It seems all it takes is for them to be considered abnormal and for the abnormality somehow to relate to sex organs. Otherwise they have no common interests. Heck, even lesbians and male homosexuals generally hate eachother, which is a well known fact.


18 posted on 12/24/2012 9:03:08 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

BS on bisexual, anything with crossed swords is gay. Same with “experimenting”, etc. If you ever did a guy, and you’re a guy, you’re a homo and thats that. And Transexual is a special kind of mental sickness, probably the worst of all of them.
Cutting off body parts goes way beyond the homo thing where they go do sick things with their bodies. They are gays who decide to mutilate their bodies to try to impersonate the ones they wish they were. Worst of the lot in my opinion.


19 posted on 12/24/2012 9:32:18 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Tublecane; DesertRhino
Something similar occurs with trannies, who are grouped with the rest even though they may be perfectly straight.

If "tranny" means transexual, it probably doesn't go with being "perfectly straight."

If it means "transvestite" so far as I know they aren't in the LGBTQ or whatever it is yet.

If you ever did a guy, and you’re a guy, you’re a homo and thats that.

So then it isn't a choice?

20 posted on 12/24/2012 9:41:37 AM PST by x
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To: TADSLOS
Homosexuality is a form of mental disease.

I agree and have thought that for a long time. It's an undiagnosed and untreated illness. Thanks, American Psychiatric Association, for putting political correctness ahead of your patients' health.

21 posted on 12/24/2012 10:00:16 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Thanks for Birney’s side of the story. I never believed her and found it disgusting she suddenly decided she was gay.


22 posted on 12/24/2012 10:30:53 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: SeekAndFind

mention 2 words....Anne Heche.

watch the homosexual head explode trying to twist out of it.


23 posted on 12/24/2012 11:10:05 AM PST by stylin19a (obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: SeekAndFind

as for her claims about her first husband, from his rebuttal she seems to be a victim for sure, a victim of her own vindictiveness


24 posted on 12/24/2012 11:29:30 AM PST by Wuli
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To: SeekAndFind

bkmk


25 posted on 12/24/2012 11:35:32 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: x

I meant transexuals, and by “perfectly straight” I mean they are sexually attracted to and carry on with the opposite of their biological sex. Of course they may so butcher themselves as to render normal straight intercourse impossible, but they’d still do whatever it is they do with the opposite sex is the point.


26 posted on 12/26/2012 11:59:44 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: SeekAndFind
Yes, gay is a choice, get over it.

Correctamundo!

27 posted on 12/26/2012 12:01:45 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: DesertRhino

“If you ever did a guy, and you’re a guy, you’re a homologue and that’s that.”

This is an incredibly idiotic statement given what we know happens when males are packed together without recourse to the opposite sex, for instance in prison or at boarding school. But let’s pretend those are special cases and look elsewhere. What say you about men who have sex with both males and females his entire life, never settling on either? That he’s really gay deep down. But why, if he’s not gay in practice? Probably because you can’t imagine having sex with someone of your own sex, or some such nonsense.

They exist, trust me. However mostly gay or straight are most men, or however instinctual is physical revulsion from homoeroticism to all straight men, there is such a thing as going both ways.


28 posted on 12/26/2012 12:07:45 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: DesertRhino

I agree with your severing of homosexuality from transexuality. They are different beasts, and have no business being lumped together.


29 posted on 12/26/2012 12:13:35 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

I think some guys are just born effeminate. There was a kid in my neighborhood who even before we knew what sex was ....was gay... a fairy.

And some of the woman who show up in Chicago for pride weekend. Jeez are they big....backs and arms like an offensive lineman. Sometimes I don’t think it’s a choice.


30 posted on 12/26/2012 12:14:12 PM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Essie
She’s 71 and has recently decided that she is a lesbian.

So she made a decision (choice).

31 posted on 12/26/2012 12:26:45 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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The term ‘gay’ is an inadequate substitute for ‘homosexual’.


32 posted on 12/26/2012 12:28:18 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know about you, but my heterosexuality was not a choice. It was irresistible, inevitable and inexorable. May not be PC around here to say so, may not fit your agenda, but it is the truth.


33 posted on 12/26/2012 12:29:58 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Blackirish

Though they commonly go together, resembling the opposite sex does not necessarily imply homosexuality. How many girls are tomboys before puberty? The issue, for me, is not whether or not they’re “born that way.” Some are, more or less. Others obviously are made. Still others aren’t decided one way or another. What bothers me is the scale tipping in favor of latent homosexuality, so that for instance you can have sex with women all your life, sleep with a man, and suddenly decide you were gay all along.

Well, okay, I guess we have to take their word for it. But we don’t just do that. We try to decide for them. So that if some celebrity, say Tom Cruise or John Travolta, who have one or two effeminate qualities and are gossiped about having been caught here or there, in this of that compromised position with a man, are automatically 100% gay. What? What about all the evidence in the other direction? That doesn’t count, for a few simple reasons: a) gays and fellow travelers are interested in inflating their numbers, b) people for whatever reason think it makes a better story, and c) they don’t want to admit it’s possible for straights—for instance them—ever to have gay sex.


34 posted on 12/26/2012 12:33:48 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: SeekAndFind

Gays tell people to “stop being homophibic”, as if phobias were a “choice”. Goose, gander, sauce.


35 posted on 12/26/2012 12:39:47 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gays tell people to “stop being homophobic”, as if phobias were a “choice”. Goose, gander, sauce.


36 posted on 12/26/2012 12:40:22 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: allmendream
I don’t know about you, but my heterosexuality was not a choice. It was irresistible, inevitable and inexorable. May not be PC around here to say so, may not fit your agenda, but it is the truth.

Heterosexuality objectively describes and defines how a species procreates -in our case via two sexes.

Homosexuality subjectively describes and defines how a mentally disordered heterosexual recreates.

We are ALL with very exceptional exceptions heterosexual.

I know what your agenda is -you are a heterosexual that is spreading homosexual agenda propaganda as 'truth' on FR.

37 posted on 01/05/2013 5:51:23 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: SeekAndFind
Queers: "We are the 3.4%."
38 posted on 01/05/2013 6:18:57 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: DBeers

Sorry if you were one choice away from sucking c*#* . It wasn’t ever an option for me.


39 posted on 01/05/2013 6:42:42 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sam Kinison had it best - “You basically have to make an appointment for that folks. That’s not just going to happen. You’re not going to sit on a @#%@ public toilet seat and Hey Whoa! I just got shot in the !@#% with an infected load of @#@#^@#. Who’s the smartass?”


40 posted on 01/05/2013 7:58:49 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: TADSLOS
It's not a disease. Maybe the inclinations aren't a choice (I don't know - I suspect it's environment) but actions are a choice.

Just as I can choose to cheat on my girlfriend with the woman I meet at a conference, these homos can choose to blank another dudes blank.

41 posted on 01/05/2013 8:00:55 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Darren McCarty

Let me qualify my statement then. It’s a mental disease by choice. I refuse to believe that God creates perverts at birth. Something happens menntally from one’s self discovery of sex. How one proceeds from that point is a personal choice between using their body as God intended or perverting themselves and those they engage their perversion with mentally and physically- but it starts with a mental perversion of thought and desire - a self induced disease of the mind and soul manifested upon the physical body. That’s the way I see it.


42 posted on 01/05/2013 8:20:03 PM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: allmendream

Many people will never support you here, but many will. It’s always better to love and support our fellow conservatives than to vilify them. Take care.


43 posted on 01/05/2013 8:47:20 PM PST by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: Darren McCarty
Andrew Dice Clay said it better.

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Yo! Either you suck d***.....

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OR YOU DON'T!!!

44 posted on 01/05/2013 8:52:07 PM PST by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks SeekAndFind.
To fire Dixon, one must accept that gay men cannot stop themselves from having anal sex or engaging in fellatio. Without anal sex or fellatio, it would seem that a gay couple is tough to distinguish from roommates who like to kiss each other once in a while. These assumptions bestialize and infantilize gay men.

45 posted on 01/05/2013 9:04:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: allmendream
Sorry if you were one choice away from sucking c*#* . It wasn’t ever an option for me.

Resorting to Ad HOMO-inem in the face of facts is so 'gay'.

Obama would be proud.

46 posted on 01/05/2013 9:59:03 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: SeekAndFind
Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

 

Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Ain't this just FABULOUS??      More?

Isaiah 3:9   The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b  Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


 

 

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
 10.  This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature  and despise authority.   Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
 11.  yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
 12.  But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
 13.  They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
     Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

47 posted on 01/06/2013 1:36:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TADSLOS
Homosexuality is a form of mental disease.

Nope; it's SIN.

But you'll play Hell finding THAT word used in today's culture.

All kinds of EVIL exists, but NEVER any SIN!

48 posted on 01/06/2013 1:37:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SeekAndFind
All sexual behaviors, from the most moral to the most depraved, are under the control of the rational human will. Whatever his or her urges, the individual decides whether to act on them.
49 posted on 01/06/2013 5:22:02 AM PST by Tax-chick (The paint is in the basket with the skulls in there. Don't tell me you can't find it!)
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To: Hardastarboard; little jeremiah; wagglebee
I agree and have thought that for a long time. It's an undiagnosed and untreated illness. Thanks, American Psychiatric Association, for putting political correctness ahead of your patients' health.

I lost a substantial reply to you to the tendency of Internet Explorer suddenly and peremptorily to announce it's shutting down because of "errors", so I'll try to repeat more economically.

Thank you, Bill Gates, for your buggy crap. That we paid you $25 billion for.

The three APA's (Psychology, Psychiatry, and Psychotherapy) were mugged and rolled in 1972 by homosexual psychiatrists using a subverted, rolled, and mugged study from 1957 done by Evelyn Hooker at UCLA. The putsch was led by Judson Marmor and Robert Spitzer, both prominent psychiatrists. Marmor later became a president of the American Psychiatric Association.

The decision to remove homosexuality from the list of paraphilias (disordered attractions, including bestiality, pedophilia, coprophilia, frottage, and numerous other disordered and pathological behaviors) in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual published by the American Psychiatric Association was political and politically imposed.

The homosexual cabal then set up Division 44 of the American Psychological Association as a kind of SS-Ahnenerben to oversee homopsychological mythology and legend-building consistent with the movement's goal of securing an all-destroying Supreme Court win on the model of Brown vs. Board of Education and Roe vs. Wade, based on claims of essential homosexuality in which sex orientation is equated to race to create a "suspect class" as in civil-rights cases, in which the Supreme Court would basically tell the God of Genesis to go fornicate Himself, and the theists and deists and other moralists and believers to allow homsexuals to do whatever they want under penalty of law and lawsuits.

That has always been the goal -- demoralization of society as a benchmark accomplishment of the movement, and affirmative legal, social, career, and financial punishment of the observers and keepers of received public morality.

50 posted on 01/06/2013 5:39:56 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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