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Local politicians call the NRA's response "stupid."
abc2news.com ^ | December 24, 2012 | Cheryl Conner

Posted on 12/24/2012 5:43:17 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe

BALTIMORE, Md. - The NRA leader appeared on Sunday morning talk shows, defending his stance to put armed guards in all schools. Local lawmakers are pushing back.

"They're stupid. It doesn't make sense to add more guns to schools. When you add more guns to reduce violence I think you increase violence," said Sen. Lisa Gladden, (D) Baltimore City.

The largest gun lobbyist broke its silence on Friday, a week after 26 people died at Sandy Hook Elementary by a man with three high-powered guns.

"If it's crazy to call for putting police in our school then call me crazy. I think American people want this," said Wayne LaPierre, NRA CEO.

The NRA insists new laws restricting gun owners, including a ban on assault weapons, will not work. But Senator Lisa Gladden, who represents Baltimore City, is making it her mission to outlaw extended magazines, which allow a gunman to carry more ammunition.

Also, she and her colleagues say there's no use for high-powered weapons.

"An automatic or semi-automatic weapon doesn't work for hunters and for all of those who are shooting animals for the purposes of food because it tears up the flesh," said Sen. Gladden.

When it comes to gun stores, a senator from Montgomery County will push to give state police the same authority as the ATF to audit how many guns were used in a crime and place sanctions on the owners. As for the weapons left on the street, Sen. Gladden has a plan.

"If you count them, it tells people I am going to make sure that the right person or the right people have access to these kinds of weapons," she said.

The sponsors of the state bills argue students were killed at Columbine despite the fact that armed police were there. The gun debate will begin in Annapolis, sometime after opening day on January 9, 2013.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; lisagladden; montgomerycounty; rkba; secondamendment

1 posted on 12/24/2012 5:43:22 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So if Baltimore were to disarm their popos, the place would turn into a rainbow sanctuary for unicorns?


2 posted on 12/24/2012 5:45:44 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“Crazy” is putting the principal of Sandy Hook in a position where her only option to try to save lives was to rush an armed killer with her bare hands.
3 posted on 12/24/2012 5:47:44 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Paladin2
I've found that it's incredibly effective to point out that the NRA position is exactly the same one taken by Bill Clinton after Columbine:

LA Times article from 2000

Then, when they follow up by blasting the NRA for opposing that plan, ask why they're spending their time attacking the NRA instead of constructively addressing the issue of gun violence.
4 posted on 12/24/2012 5:49:08 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Tailgunner Joe
We don't give a god damn about hunting. We want these guns because of lib fascists like her.
5 posted on 12/24/2012 5:49:49 AM PST by Lockbar (Quality factory loaded ammunition ---- The New Gold)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The largest gun lobbyist broke its silence on Friday, a week after 26 people died at Sandy Hook Elementary by a man with three high-powered guns.

Too bad he wasn't using "low-powered guns." Maybe more would have survived.

6 posted on 12/24/2012 5:50:24 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
If gun-free zones make people safe, then let's declare a gun-free zone around the pResident and send the Secret Service home. It will save the taxpayer millions.

WhiteHouse.gov Petition: Establish gun-free zone around pResident, send Secret Service home

7 posted on 12/24/2012 5:52:35 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Does Miss Gladden not realize that cops carry guns?

Do Leftists actually have higher brain functions that are operational?

How do you have a discussion with Stupid?


8 posted on 12/24/2012 5:52:55 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: Paladin2
Local districts should be coming to their own conclusions. The safety of the children (and everyone else) in a community is that community's responsibility.

The federal government should not be telling school districts that they can not or must arm staff or put armed guards in the schools.

As the member of a local school committee, I would advocate for unnamed existing staff to be trained by the state police or other qualified training centers and armed in the schools.

Our neighboring community may conclude that they prefer counseling and gun free schools; they are their kids and their schools; but if their policies result in failure, they should not attempt to influence the fed to impose their failed solution on our community.

9 posted on 12/24/2012 5:53:19 AM PST by BillGunn (Bill Gunn for Congress district one rep. Massachusetts)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"An automatic or semi-automatic weapon doesn't work for hunters and for all of those who are shooting animals for the purposes of food because it tears up the flesh," said Sen. Gladden

The stupid, it burns.

10 posted on 12/24/2012 5:53:56 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“They’re stupid. It doesn’t make sense to add more guns to schools. When you add more guns to reduce violence I think you increase violence,” said Sen. Lisa Gladden, (D) Baltimore City.

No Senator. YOU are stupid. You can not get off your liberal talking point “GUNS”... They are not talking about adding “GUNS” into the school, but good guy armed human beings, with the purpose of stopping bad guy armed human beings. If you would just grow up and stop being a sheep of liberalism you would understand the difference.


11 posted on 12/24/2012 5:55:22 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If gun-free zones make people safe, then let's declare a gun-free zone around the pResident and send the Secret Service home. It will save the taxpayer millions.

Using his own 'logic', David Gregory should demand that the 11 security guards at Sidwell Friends School, where he sends his kids, should be pulled because they just might not be able to stop a shooting.

Rank hypocrites, all of them. The NRA and gun-rights activists needs to get on top of the fact that they can afford private security but want to deny self-defense to the working stiffs of the world. THAT resonates more than anything else.

12 posted on 12/24/2012 5:56:41 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Tailgunner Joe

If armed guards are stupid and not needed to keep our kids safe... Then i guess we can save a ton of money in these tough economic times by pulling them from banks, airports, the president, Congress, other government buildings, etc - right? I mean, if they are not necessary to protect our kids, then they must not be necessary to protect these other things, right? Hey politicians, either you agree with the NRA and guard our schools, or pull all of your own armed security everywhere too. Any other course of action tells me, and all your voters, that you value your hide more than our kids’ lives. What’s it going to be mr/mrs vote-buyer?


13 posted on 12/24/2012 5:56:49 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Let’s test their theory and remove all armed guards protecting politicians


14 posted on 12/24/2012 5:56:58 AM PST by Figment
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To: Paladin2

Sen. Lisa Gladden, (D) Baltimore City. = Stupid.

One has to be stupid to be a democRAT. There is no alternative. To actually have an working brain and be a democRAT is contradictory.


15 posted on 12/24/2012 5:57:22 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I think its a wild overreaction that you’re all going to regret.


16 posted on 12/24/2012 5:57:49 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

You can’t have a reasonable debate with liberals when they are gripped by mass-hysteria.


17 posted on 12/24/2012 5:59:55 AM PST by granada
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To: dirtboy
Using his own 'logic', David Gregory should demand that the 11 security guards at Sidwell Friends School, where he sends his kids, should be pulled because they just might not be able to stop a shooting.

I demand Congress be made a "gun free" zone. After all if young innocent children can't have armed guards, why should Congress? Are they somehow more "precious"?

18 posted on 12/24/2012 6:01:33 AM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Which shooting has been stopped by gun laws. Chicago and other eastern cities have become the murder center of the world and more people have been killed under gun control than in the last several wars.


19 posted on 12/24/2012 6:02:31 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

With the number of times he shot the victims, a .22 would have been just as deadly. If what I’ve seen is correct, he killed his mother with a .22


20 posted on 12/24/2012 6:03:30 AM PST by Figment
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To: Tailgunner Joe
With the growing membership and ergo power of the NRA—logical responses when our 2nd Amendment Rights are being attacked—these gunphobe politicians will face some well financed opponents come election day.

Election day is a long way off and they think folks will forget...the NRA won't.

Silly gun grabbers.

21 posted on 12/24/2012 6:20:02 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Gun free zones are baited fields.")
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"They're stupid. It doesn't make sense to add more guns to schools. When you add more guns to reduce violence I think you increase violence," said Sen. Lisa Gladden, (D) Baltimore City.

Talk about stupid! Under the NRA plan the guy with the gun at the school would be the good guy. Under Sen. Lisa Gladden's plan the only guy with the gun at the school would be the bad guy. What a moron. And to think these people keep getting elected.

22 posted on 12/24/2012 6:20:16 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I guess Sen. Gladden from Baltimore City has never heard of this.
Baltimore City Public Schools Police
23 posted on 12/24/2012 6:22:33 AM PST by RedMDer (Please support Toys for Tots this CHRISTmas season.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The NRA is absolutely right on this one. The entire leftist establishment is out of its mind.


24 posted on 12/24/2012 6:29:32 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

... for your consideration. Hugs, Mom


25 posted on 12/24/2012 6:30:51 AM PST by momtothree
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To: I want the USA back

Agreed.

Someone is challenging the left in the public debate.

More should.


26 posted on 12/24/2012 6:34:29 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Figment

Oh, I’m sure. I’m just taking issue with an obvious bit of propaganda thrown in simply as a means of getting morons in this country to say, “Tsk, tsk. Who needs ‘high-powered guns’ anyway? Why won’t they just ban them?”


27 posted on 12/24/2012 6:37:26 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

sure, and if they spend money on school security there goes their fact finding junket to hawaii!

AND

they are exposed for stealing the money that was there in the first place!


28 posted on 12/24/2012 6:40:10 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: RedMDer

Good find! What a hypocrite she is!


29 posted on 12/24/2012 6:43:10 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Flick Lives
I demand Congress be made a "gun free" zone. After all if young innocent children can't have armed guards, why should Congress?

Exactly! And disarm the Secret Service and Capitol Police . . . and disarm the Hollywood types' security guards. Just for starters!

It really seems the loudmouths demanding a ban on guns all have extraordinary armed protection themselves.

30 posted on 12/24/2012 6:45:43 AM PST by maryz
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Used to live in Fairfax County, VA, which has become a liberal stronghold thanks to all the government employees and contractors in the area. Amazing that there is a security force already assigned to schools yet someone would object to at least one of them being armed. Allowing at least one guard or other qualified employee, preferably with a concealed weapon, makes excellent sense to me. Keep the gun out of sight and what child is going to be harmed by its’ presence? Seems to me the potential benefit far outweighs political objections.


31 posted on 12/24/2012 6:52:19 AM PST by Boomer One
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So I guess to liberals think Barbara Boxer is stupid for wanting National Guard troops in schools.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-sen-boxer-national-guard-schools-20121219,0,7530900.story?track=rss

I already know she is.


32 posted on 12/24/2012 7:11:46 AM PST by unixman9627
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The sponsors of the state bills argue students were killed at Columbine despite the fact that armed police were there. The gun debate will begin in Annapolis, sometime after opening day on January 9, 2013.

Tactics have changed.

What the Democrats have to answer for is why are they against armed cops in schools now when they have already been there for years? Could they just be playing politics?

33 posted on 12/24/2012 7:15:48 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Bathhouse Barry wants YOU to bend over for another four years)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Would someone name the crazed, armed, mass killer that was stopped by an unarmed person?


34 posted on 12/24/2012 7:20:51 AM PST by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Armed guards in school stupid?Tell us more, senator.. Let's see, yellow ribbons to show support for our troops. Pink ribbons for breast cancer awareness, red ribbons for AIDS awareness, puzzle pieces ribbons for autism awareness. Someone please tell me what color ribbons do we wear for STUPID awareness?
35 posted on 12/24/2012 7:21:30 AM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: El Laton Caliente

Jared Lee Loughner. Just for info.


36 posted on 12/24/2012 7:33:49 AM PST by procrustes (You make Free Republic look bad!)
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To: tanknetter

>>>I’ve found that it’s incredibly effective to point out that the NRA position is exactly the same one taken by Bill Clinton after Columbine:

That’s a great article. I’ve saved it as a PDF.

In retrospect, it would have been rhetorically effective had LaPierre said something like “The best suggestion the NRA has to offer is that the country follow former president Clinton’s advice from 2000 after the Columbine shooting . . .”

That would have put the mainstream media in the position of having to pushback against one of their heroes.


37 posted on 12/24/2012 8:35:38 AM PST by GoodDay
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To: procrustes

That figures... The only mass shooting in a decade not in a gun free zone was also the one stopped by the unarmed.


38 posted on 12/24/2012 9:08:32 AM PST by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Usingt what passes for logic with these commie bastards, the U.S. should never have gotten involved with Hitler. After all, we added more guns to the situation.


39 posted on 12/24/2012 9:44:32 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: Future Snake Eater

Wasn’t trying to make an issue of you writing that. I was sure you were making light of what lefty fools keep spouting


40 posted on 12/24/2012 1:36:24 PM PST by Figment
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; ...

The idiot senator has a point: an armed guard or cop cannot always stop a school massacre, as he could be outmanned or outgunned. The one thing that will ultimately deter these tragedies is repealing the gun-free school zones law, something that I’m sure the idiot senator would never consider, and making sure that teachers and, yes, competent high school students can bring arms into the school. That means states must repeal their own gun-free school zones and carry restrictions.

Nobody is going to mow down kids in a classroom when there is the possibility of return fire from behind every classroom door and from every student who can get a firearm out of his locker.

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


41 posted on 12/24/2012 6:02:26 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

She is either an idiot or a liar that knows Baltimore City Schools already have armed Police.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2971853/posts?page=23#23


42 posted on 12/24/2012 6:39:58 PM PST by RedMDer (Please support Toys for Tots this CHRISTmas season.)
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To: Paladin2

Exactly.

Of course, everyone knows Baltimore talking about “making less violence” is like Chicago bemoaning Chick-Fil-A for not sharing its “values”.


43 posted on 12/24/2012 7:08:14 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“They’re stupid. It doesn’t make sense to add more guns to schools. When you add more guns to reduce violence I think you increase violence,”

Then you think wrong.

I guess having more cars means more people will ram into pedestrians.

Geesh. Unbelievable.

And while you’re at it, ask Israel.


44 posted on 12/24/2012 7:11:34 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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