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Jersey town adopts schoolhouse Glocks
New York Post ^ | 12/23/12 | Susan Edelman

Posted on 12/23/2012 4:24:30 AM PST by AtlasStalled

Don’t mess with Marlboro Township. The leafy, well-heeled New Jersey suburb will station a permanent armed cop in each of its nine schools starting Jan. 2. * * * The mayor and other town officials had approved the initiative before the chief of the National Rifle Association ignited a firestorm on Friday by calling for armed guards for schools.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“This really doesn’t make it fair for the psycho killers.”

Good point - without the pyscho killers how can they justify their gun grabs?

51 posted on 12/23/2012 7:02:31 AM PST by BobL (Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21... (whatever the hell that is))
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To: AtlasStalled

Sunday, December 23, 2012

More Hypocrisy

As the “debate” rages, more and more examples of the leftist hypocrisy come to light:

WLS radio 890am: Jim Johnson, station reporter, reported that Mayor Emanuel was “ outraged” that the NRA suggested putting trained armed security/police officers in all schools in response to the recent shooting at the Newtown elementary school.

Oh, outraged huh? Gee, if he’s soooo outraged, then why doesn’t he pull his kids out of the LAB School at the U of C campus. Guess the 2 U of C armed police officers that work the Lab School everyday just make for such a scary and unsafe environment. Oh wait, if he did that then he just might have to enroll his kids in the local CPS school by his house!?!?! Wait, that can’t happen. CPS is just good enough for the peasants kids but not for his little angels. Double standard hypocrite.

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52 posted on 12/23/2012 7:21:41 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: FatherofFive

i love it...

i will get one of those signs immediately



53 posted on 12/23/2012 7:25:18 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: AtlasStalled

Wayne LaPiere took this proposal away from the Democrats and beat them to it. And now they are pissed.

So the Democrats are saying this is a bad plan, when in fact the Democrats would love to create another government TSA type agency specifically for government schools.

Think union membership and government control.

54 posted on 12/23/2012 7:26:03 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: umgud; momtothree; EagleInGA; grobdriver
Armed security is costly. A far better way is to allow all school staff to pack heat...

Consider this twist:

Armed security is intrusive. I'd like to see "Armed Security" teachers. This individual within a school could teach a class on 2nd amendment; for upper grades, there could be an elective for learning to handle a weapon.

Oh, and for those teachers inclined to do so (ie, liberty minded... believers in the 2nd from any political persuasion), get trained, licensed, outfitted for concealed carry).

The result would be no "Armed Security" whose union job would be to hang around eating donuts all day for that one chance every year where one nutjob wantonly kills somewhere in the US; some guy who would just be hanging out at the water cooler or staff cafeteria all day.

55 posted on 12/23/2012 8:24:34 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: AtlasStalled
Freaking hypocrites lambast the NRA for wanting to put police officers in the schools with the common claim that the schools shouldn't be turned into "armed camps".

And yet MANY inner-city schools already resemble prisons with locked doors, metal detectors and guards.

So I'm confused. Are the Democrat / liberals saying that their own version of armed camps are fine for the inner-city but not OK for the suburbs? Or, God forbid, Sidwell Friends?

Freaking hypocrites. Again.

56 posted on 12/23/2012 8:25:00 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Bathhouse Barry wants YOU to bend over for another four years)
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To: MissMagnolia

I glad she’s reconsidering, other than making prisons out of our schools the only answer to this problem is “a good guy with a gun”.

57 posted on 12/23/2012 9:03:49 AM PST by GreatMan
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To: bert
I consider that to be a rather foolish statement. It presumes the staff capable of maintaining and more importantly using a weapon.

That is an insult to the over 7.6 million concealed weapon permit holders in this country.

58 posted on 12/23/2012 9:24:14 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

No it isn’t. It was made in the knowledge that educators, most likely most educators aren’t capable of dealing with a pistol, don’t want to learn and it is not their job.

It has nothing to do with those who know their weapons stuff and are qualified and legal. The chip om your shoulder is falling off it seems.

59 posted on 12/23/2012 10:32:25 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: EEGator

There are numerous well trained highly motivated Army and Marine Corps veterans who would be ideally suited for providing security at schools. The sandbox has provided a large number of men who are used to fighting in urban environments where minimizing civilian casualties are a part of the ROE. We should use them and many of them could use a good job.

60 posted on 12/23/2012 10:50:04 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: momtothree

Allow, not force...

61 posted on 12/23/2012 10:50:58 AM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: jwalsh07

I am in complete agreement.

62 posted on 12/23/2012 11:15:16 AM PST by EEGator
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To: bert
No it isn’t. It was made in the knowledge that educators, most likely most educators aren’t capable of dealing with a pistol, don’t want to learn and it is not their job.

Number one rule when you find yourself in a hole is to stop digging.

What makes you think that ALL educators will be FORCED to carry firearms and aren't capable of dealing with it? What about those who VOLUNTEER and have the training? No, there's never been a former military type to take up teaching. No, there isn't a single teacher in the country with a CCW license (don't tell that to my CPL holding teacher wife.)

You're showing your ignorance with such broadly sweeping remarks. Will they cover the majority of teachers? No doubt. Does it apply to ALL teachers? No, by at least one teacher in my household. How many armed teachers does a single school need? Any number >zero.

63 posted on 12/23/2012 11:38:54 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: cripplecreek

Never had any in our county, either. Do you think this is a bad idea?

64 posted on 12/23/2012 6:09:11 PM PST by cumbo78
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To: cumbo78

I think calling for armed guards in all schools is an overreaction out of panic that will bite us in the end. After all, there are some 100,000 plus schools in America and these mass shootings amount to a tiny fraction of a percent.

I checked today and found that there are 13 different school districts in my county with multiple buildings, 6 Catholic schools, 3 Christian non Catholic schools, 3 charter schools, and 3 private schools. Not 1 has ever had a shooting of any kind.

Better to go state by state to change laws and allow school staff to be armed if they so choose. My thinking is that I would rather keep a potential threat guessing than putting one person out there that they can spot.

Another concern is the volunteers. It won’t take long for the left to figure out that a ringer firing a couple of shots into a school ceiling will be great PR for them. The ringer will get a slap on the wrist and the media will do weeks of show blaming the NRA for unleashing these crazies in our schools.

If you leave it up to the individual staff of schools you will end up with some schools unprotected but no one will know which are and aren’t.

65 posted on 12/23/2012 6:38:39 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

In the case of the Middle School, there are five wings with 2,200 students. The High School has 1,500 students. I’m not saying that all schools should have armed guards, nor do I think they all need them, but having a presence is a positive thing. The retirees employed by our local district are former police officers with decades of experience, mostly in NYC. One thing that should certainly be banned are those “GUN FREE SCHOOL ZONE” signs. Whoever thought that was a good idea is clueless.

66 posted on 12/24/2012 8:23:01 AM PST by cumbo78
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To: cumbo78

There are definitely plenty of inner city schools that need and currently have armed police onsite. There are cops onsite in Detroit schools and the gangbangers still shoot each other.

I agree that we need to ditch the gun free zones and stop advertizing them with the idiotic signs that might as well say “GAME RESERVE”.

67 posted on 12/24/2012 8:34:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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