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WSJ: Obama threatened Boehner that he’ll use Inauguration & SOTU speches to blame GOP
WSJ via The Washington Examiner ^ | 12/22/12 | Philip Klein

Posted on 12/22/2012 3:15:52 PM PST by chiller

President Obama has threatened House Speaker John Boehner that if no deal is struck on the “fiscal cliff,” he will use his Inaugural address and State of the Union speech next month to blame Republicans, according to the Wall Street Journal.

In the Journal’s behind the scenes account of how fiscal cliff talks between Obama and Boehner hit a wall, what comes across is that the president is emboldened by his reelection and eager to extract more concessions from Boehner than he was willing to accept during last summer’s debt limit talks.

This excerpt from the piece is revealing:

Mr. Obama repeatedly lost patience with the speaker as negotiations faltered. In an Oval Office meeting last week, he told Mr. Boehner that if the sides didn’t reach agreement, he would use his inaugural address and his State of the Union speech to tell the country the Republicans were at fault.

At one point, according to notes taken by a participant, Mr. Boehner told the president, “I put $800 billion [in tax revenue] on the table. What do I get for that?”

“You get nothing,” the president said. “I get that for free.”

The whole article is well worth the read (subscription is required).


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bewarethefff; boehner; bushtaxcuts; fiscalcliff; johnboehner; misshimyet; obama; obamacare; zerocare
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If I were Boehner, I'd say; meet you at the debt ceiling, where you will receive nothing. We're shutting it down, shrinking government until it's to a size of our liking. Republicans will be hated for a while, but soon looked upon as the saviour of the country and the world since we brought you, you as*hole to your Waterloo.
1 posted on 12/22/2012 3:16:02 PM PST by chiller
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To: chiller

Agree. The real question is why Bonehead would continue to deal with
Obama. Looks like Bonehead got his marching orders from Obama to
who-do conservatives.


3 posted on 12/22/2012 3:20:09 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: chiller

See this? It’s my shocked face.

What does it matter? The Little Dictator is going to do it anyway.


4 posted on 12/22/2012 3:20:29 PM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: chiller
go for it Hussein...I'm sick of your threats..

that is all you know, well plus ME...I....MY...MINE...AND GIVE ME...what a disgusting a$$

5 posted on 12/22/2012 3:20:29 PM PST by haircutter
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To: chiller
SSDD, and the SCM will parrot the party line.

5.56mm

6 posted on 12/22/2012 3:22:06 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: chiller
Unless Boehner has the brass to do this, he'd better think about stepping aside. We need a rock-hard bargainer and it's becoming apparent Boehner and Obie don't click.

In fact, I'd demand Boehner step down until the new congress is installed.

There's a joke in here somewhere about rock-hard (or limp), and the Speaker's name, but I'll leave it to you.

7 posted on 12/22/2012 3:22:21 PM PST by chiller (Do not consume any NBCNews;MTPTodayNightlyNewsMorningJoeMSNBCBrianWilliams)
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Go right ahead, you petulant douche bag.


8 posted on 12/22/2012 3:22:30 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: chiller

Boehner is not a wartime speaker.


9 posted on 12/22/2012 3:23:54 PM PST by AU72
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To: chiller

Boner should have marched right out and up to the tee vee cameras and announced that they president has threatened to take the country down if his demands are not made on raising taxes on the middle class and rich. He’s a mad man and drunk on power.


10 posted on 12/22/2012 3:24:33 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: chiller
We're shutting it down, shrinking government until it's to a size of our liking. Republicans will be hated for a while, but soon looked upon as the saviour of the country and the world since we brought you, you as*hole to your Waterloo.

Let's get real here. The GOP is the source of all blame. Zero wants to be able to stand up and say that tax cuts are the source of the greatest depression on earth (which is a lie in and of itself). He wants the GOP to own this going all the way back to GWB tax cuts and he WILL GET HIS WAY. He has the bully pulpit and a nation full of cult worshipers.

That said, GOP you better put the "I'm scared of being blamed" philosophy behind you and start showing some backbone in saving this once great country. YOU WILL BE BLAMED - COUNT ON IT, AND MOVE ALONG.
11 posted on 12/22/2012 3:25:49 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: chiller

Time to shut down the government Boehner...Obama owns whatever comes afterward.


12 posted on 12/22/2012 3:27:05 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: chiller

I have a mental picture of the MSM lapdogs all in a row, drooling in agreement with the ‘great one’.


13 posted on 12/22/2012 3:27:31 PM PST by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence but it is the road to our ruin!)
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To: chiller

The ratz are going to blame the republicans, the tea party and the conservatives anyway.


14 posted on 12/22/2012 3:28:40 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: tennmountainman
Sounds to me like Boehner is not continuing to deal with Obama. After Plan B failed he said "screw it" and went home for Christmas.

If this account of Obama's criminal attitude is accurate, then the country is in for a very bad four years.

15 posted on 12/22/2012 3:29:39 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: chiller
At one point, according to notes taken by a participant, Mr. Boehner told the president, “I put $800 billion [in tax revenue] on the table.

What do I get for that?”

“You get nothing,” the president said. “I get that for free.”

You would think Boehner never negotiated a thing in life...what a puss...

My response would be "Mr. President...nothing... especially in DC is free"

I would get up say, thank you and call me when you are ready to work together..

I'd pull a "Colombo" and stop halfway out the door and tell him..."You can take the debt ceiling and stick that in your pipe...cause you aren't getting a penny more. "...

16 posted on 12/22/2012 3:30:15 PM PST by Popman (Gun control will not really control guns, but it will give the illusion of controlling people)
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To: chiller

And this is different from any of his other speeches?


17 posted on 12/22/2012 3:31:42 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: chiller
If I were Boehner, I'd say; meet you at the debt ceiling, where you will receive nothing. We're shutting it down, shrinking government until it's to a size of our liking. Republicans will be hated for a while, but soon looked upon as the saviour of the country and the world since we brought you, you as*hole to your Waterloo.

Scott Walker did that and he's very popular with everyone but the nut-roots

18 posted on 12/22/2012 3:33:33 PM PST by YankeeReb
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To: chiller

So why is anyone surprised, Barry has blamed the GOPe at every State of the Union... that’s all he does is blame


19 posted on 12/22/2012 3:33:44 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Cheerio

Excellent post.

No matter what happens the Pubs will get the blame.

If a person or group of people keep getting the blame for something not their fault...maybe they should go ahead and do the deed. Earn the blame with pride. The people that know the situation will respect a hardline. The people that don’t know the situation are the ones willing to accept O’s bs anyway.

Worried about reelection, Pubs? That may or not happen anyway.


20 posted on 12/22/2012 3:34:12 PM PST by berdie
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To: hinckley buzzard

Obama told Bonehead to do Plan B to try to sucker conservatives into
voting for Tax Increases. If they could make conservatives reject their
principals on this bill, how could they vote for no tax increases on the next.
Bonehead was doing Obamas bidding.


21 posted on 12/22/2012 3:34:32 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: chiller

ZerO can talk till he is blue in the lips, his sycophants will eat it up, but, the 49% of us who did not want him as Pres__ent will know he is lying and the Republicans are spineless worms, but, they are all we have to man the barricades to communism.


22 posted on 12/22/2012 3:34:59 PM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: chiller

rite ~:” .. If I were Boehner, I’d say; meet you at the debt ceiling, where you will receive nothing.”

As a group , I would stand up, and then repeat the famous line of anti-agitator “You lie!” ~ Rep. Joe Wilson R-(SC)
and then walk out !


23 posted on 12/22/2012 3:35:24 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt ("Liberalism is the transformation of mankind into cattle." ~ Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (1878))
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

My dream would be to see the entire GOP walk out of the SOTU if Zero starts to bash them.


24 posted on 12/22/2012 3:36:23 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: chiller

Meh, he’s going to blame republicans anyway.


25 posted on 12/22/2012 3:36:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: chiller

If Boehner didn’t know that Obama is going to blame the GOP for everything under the sun he is even dumber than I thought.

What kind of silly threat is this to say he is going to blame the GOP we already know that.

Blame the GOP Obama who cares it’s dead anyway.,


26 posted on 12/22/2012 3:37:28 PM PST by Venturer
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To: chiller

Boehner should have sent his assistant, Cantor, to deal with Reid’s assistant, Obama.
Then he and Reid could have taken it from there.

Dealing with an underling was a mistake.


27 posted on 12/22/2012 3:37:55 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: chiller

Let it burn! The producing class can hold off earning extra income to pay their taxes longer than the free stuff class can do without their food stamps, birth control pills and Obamaphones.


28 posted on 12/22/2012 3:37:58 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: chiller
So what? Obama can't tell the truth and Boehner can't or won't stand up to the lies.

I don't really care anymore what these two mental midgets tell each other and the media.

29 posted on 12/22/2012 3:39:05 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: chiller

Boehner needs to stop acting like the battered wife here and tell this sociopath to stuff it.

The Republicans better start getting in front of some microphones every damned day and start controlling the narrative on this.


30 posted on 12/22/2012 3:41:09 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Cheerio
If Pubbies cave again, I'll support a move to bring Sarah out of retirement and lead the charge. Screw the Republicans.

Once GOPe sees the size of Sarah's brigade, they'll beome a bit more accomodating to us.

31 posted on 12/22/2012 3:41:47 PM PST by chiller (Do not consume any NBCNews;MTPTodayNightlyNewsMorningJoeMSNBCBrianWilliams)
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To: chiller

I agree that they should “shut Obama down” but they had better be prepared to impeach him because he does not intend to stop spending regardless of whether they appropriate any funds or not.


32 posted on 12/22/2012 3:43:18 PM PST by fatrat (extremely extreme right-wing radicalized veteran)
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To: chiller

The only winning move is not to play.


33 posted on 12/22/2012 3:43:58 PM PST by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: chiller

Boehner should never have met, let alone bargain w/ Ø.

Fact is that the house is popularly elected for a reason, it is the most responsive wing of govt to the people w/ 2-year election cycle and 435 members, and therefore by design all revenue bills ORIGINATE in the house.... not via some back room executive negotiation. By meeting w/ Ø, he was being handed more power than Constitutionally warranted. Boehner’s first promise was to let the house work as advertised - there are committees and sub-committees where budgets, appropriations, revenue and so on are planned and formed into bills. KEEP IT WITHIN the house where it belongs, then, and ONLY THEN, ship it off to the Senate. Reed (sicK!) and Ø can do as they like after that. If they don’t like it, they can shove the bill where the sun don’t shine.


34 posted on 12/22/2012 3:45:07 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: chiller

The GOP will be blamed for everything no matter what Boner does, that’s how the left controls the GOP, only the GOP has not figured that out yet, or probably does not care.


35 posted on 12/22/2012 3:45:49 PM PST by redfreedom (The spineless RINO's have made themselves irrelevent and lost the country for us.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

You treat a tantrum by a three year old , or a narcistic politicow , with firmness and discipline.
Boner has no firmness
Obummer has no discipline, leadership, or expierience.

As long as we don’t change the baby’s diaper , he will grow a rash , and then do something mighty hastily .
At least then , we will know that we have his attention.
He has crapped on “Fast and Furious”, Benghazi , and his self-created “fiscal cliff” with his lack of restraint.
He is overdue for a swat-down , or a diaper change . !

“There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan


36 posted on 12/22/2012 3:46:52 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Disclaimer - the opinions above merely reflect the writers restricted ability to observe reality)
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To: Kozak

That would be the best SOTU evah!!!


37 posted on 12/22/2012 3:47:30 PM PST by berdie
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To: SaraJohnson

works for me.


38 posted on 12/22/2012 3:47:51 PM PST by Girlene
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To: chiller

The Chi-town thug needs to put up or shut up. He’s a coward when confronted. Just like all these mass shooters.


39 posted on 12/22/2012 3:49:38 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: chiller
This excerpt from the piece OF Shit is revealing:

Fixed

FMCDH(BITS)

40 posted on 12/22/2012 3:51:11 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: chiller

This is a threat? He was going to do that anyway. Screw him. The best thing the GOP House can do at this point is to take his damn checkbook away from him. Don’t raise the debt ceiling, and watch him squirm. You wanted $100 billion in spending cuts? Refuse to raise the debt ceiling, and you will get over ten times that.


41 posted on 12/22/2012 3:53:52 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

go for it *sshole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


42 posted on 12/22/2012 3:54:05 PM PST by ldish (Give me Freedom and Liberty or let's kick some a**!)
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To: chiller
The way you deal with a shithead like the Bamster is you wear a wire. You record the petulant shithead's words and you march out of the Whorehouse with a smile on your face and you make sure it is heard by anyone who listens to anything.

As far as the Inauguration and the SOTU is concerned you make sure that no elected Republican attends. I would love to see a SOTU without 1 Republican in the building while shithead talks about all of his bipartisan efforts to do whatever it is (I really don't know) he does.

43 posted on 12/22/2012 3:55:01 PM PST by hflynn
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Time to shut down the government Boehner...Obama owns whatever comes afterward.

Correctamundo!

44 posted on 12/22/2012 3:55:47 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Kozak

I like the idea of walking out of the SOTU if Obama does as expected and continues dividing the nation in the inauguration lecture and then the SOTU lecture.

What Obama won in November is the low-information voters’ version of American Idol. What we learned in 2010 and can be well positioned to do in 2014 is take control of the congress and take his leftist presidency away from him. It does require the strength and resolve to stand firm, and Boehner is very wobbly unless the conservatives show enough muscle to stand up to him. The Plan B failure was a good sign, and the best we can do let Boehner know he has no power to give any more concessions.

Obama won American Idol. He did not win the support of the producers in our country. He can be defeated by not giving in to him. We will see.


45 posted on 12/22/2012 3:56:56 PM PST by untwist
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To: chiller

blaming folks for his incompetence is all he is good at.


46 posted on 12/22/2012 3:58:21 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Gene Eric

What a friggin low life othug I.


47 posted on 12/22/2012 3:59:29 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: chiller

Does anyone think 0bamugabe will praise Boehner and/or the GOP, other than in a backhanded way to demagogue something, no matter what they do? Is four years of his behavior not enough to get the picture?


48 posted on 12/22/2012 4:01:51 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor
And this is different from any of his other speeches?

Not really. He'd be preaching to the choir anyway. Who's going to bother watching his inauguration? It's going to be a campaign speech just like all his other speeches.
Yawn! Most people just change the station when he starts yapping. The guy just can't get enough of the sound of his own voice. He goes on, and on, and on. The next ting you know, all that's heard in any room is the loud snoring.

49 posted on 12/22/2012 4:03:04 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: chiller

He’ll do that anyway.


50 posted on 12/22/2012 4:04:52 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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