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Do you support NRA's proposal for putting armed police officers in schools? (poll to freep)
http://old.post-gazette.com/polls/Default.asp ^

Posted on 12/21/2012 6:48:07 PM PST by Red in Blue PA

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Category: Nation Voting began on 12/21/2012 Voting ends on 12/22/2012 A.Yes - 847 (26%) B.No - 2304 (70%) C.Not sure - 149 (5%)

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1 posted on 12/21/2012 6:48:12 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

I support NRA’s proposal for putting armed police officers in cosmetology schools on bad hair days.


2 posted on 12/21/2012 6:51:26 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: Red in Blue PA

Little change so far:

A. Yes - 855 (26%)
B. No - 2309 (70%)
C. Not sure - 153 (5%)


3 posted on 12/21/2012 6:51:57 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Not surprising. It’s an uber liberal rag catering to the free stuff crowd.


4 posted on 12/21/2012 6:52:21 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Red in Blue PA

Voted, still at 26%.


5 posted on 12/21/2012 6:54:18 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Red in Blue PA; dynachrome

Do you support the NRA’s proposal for putting armed police officers in schools throughout the nation?
Category: Nation
Voting began on 12/21/2012
Voting ends on 12/22/2012

A.Yes - 871 (26%)
B.No - 2313 (69%)
C.Not sure - 153 (5%)
3,337 Respondents

Read more: http://old.post-gazette.com/polls/Default.asp#ixzz2FkG9fPEn


6 posted on 12/21/2012 6:54:25 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Jyotishi
This is just more evidence that the Leftwingtards are becoming more and more brutal. First, there was abortion. Now they've moved on to failure to realize that young children require defense by adults.

Bunch of animals.

7 posted on 12/21/2012 6:55:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Red in Blue PA; dynachrome

FReeped it!


8 posted on 12/21/2012 7:09:31 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
No, we're becoming a police state already.
After patrolling for years with nothing happening they will be snoozing or playing cards in a back room.
More conservative teachers with guns would be better, they have to be where the students are and be awake anyway.

9 posted on 12/21/2012 7:12:57 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Got on another computer and voted again.

Now up to 29%.


10 posted on 12/21/2012 7:14:14 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

i don’t support it. i support letting adults working in the school with ccw and any other adult with ccw carrying on school grounds.

we don’t need expansion of the police state. citizens can police themselves, government is never the best and first answer to everything.


11 posted on 12/21/2012 7:17:41 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

We do it here at secondary schools already:

http://www.jeffcitymo.org/police/schoolresource.html


12 posted on 12/21/2012 7:24:40 PM PST by Ethrane ("obsta principiis")
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To: Red in Blue PA

Thanks, Red

Sure, put an armed rent a cop in every movie house and lots of em in every other Gun free environment. They will need certifications of course and distinctive attire to better recognize their position as officialism gun barbers. Let’s just see, Brown shirt would be a good start...

Wain LaPue is a shill.

Rab


13 posted on 12/21/2012 7:28:30 PM PST by Rabin
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To: Red in Blue PA

Actually, I do not, as presented.
I do not want identified armed guards or police in the schools....
I want the staff to be trained, armed and ready to use their training and weapons.
The shooter need not know who is or who is not armed and willing to kill them.


14 posted on 12/21/2012 7:31:24 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The media quickly turned this into “one in 7 cops will be pulled off the streets”. BS - there are plenty of retired cops, well trained responsible citizens and military that would do this for nothing.

Chat with the young teachers and the kids? Free lunch and computer privileges? I volunteered in the armed pilot program after 9/11. I’d train any teacher to shoot. I’d do it again for nothing. Sign me up coach.


15 posted on 12/21/2012 7:31:29 PM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’m with you. Committees of Safety need to be formed in order to set the parameters of the county program, then vet all the volunteers. The background investigations come from county funds. We need to change the culture and get back to building the local militia for this job.


16 posted on 12/21/2012 7:31:51 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

A.
Yes - 1185 (32%)

B.
No - 2406 (64%)

C.
Not sure - 157 (4%)


17 posted on 12/21/2012 7:33:01 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I am pro 2nd Amendment and voted NO.

Our schools are already like prisons. We don’t need to make them more so.


18 posted on 12/21/2012 7:42:41 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I am pro 2nd Amendment and voted NO.

Our schools are already like prisons. We don’t need to make them more so.


19 posted on 12/21/2012 7:42:51 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Red in Blue PA

When I was in high school armed black panthers stormed the place and briefly held it hostage. As a result for the rest of my time there we had armed Seattle cops on duty every day.

Interesting times.


20 posted on 12/21/2012 7:45:12 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: svcw
well said!

but u must understand...Its about trusting any idiot to teach/indoctrinate your kids for 180 day a yr VS. the trained person that will, in all likely-hood, never have to use his training to save those same kids....

21 posted on 12/21/2012 8:06:36 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Red in Blue PA
Given that it is impossible to change the current environment what other options are there? IMHO the necessary changes would have to be repeatedly forced upon us by very heavily armed paramilitary units and even then without 100% success the possibility of an other such incident exists.

Without some type of armed presence at the school anyone wishing to “copycat” what has just happened has several minutes of free fire time. More than enough to run up a significant body count with any type of gun other than a black powder replica weapon. I truly wish it was different but wishing don't make it real (except for Hollywood and politicians).

As for those who project their fears about an armed police presence what result would they really chose from: A live child with some fear of an armed police presence or a dead child free of such fear? People in Connecticut thought they had a third option (the traditional American mindset) until last Friday when they learned differently.

22 posted on 12/21/2012 8:07:25 PM PST by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Most of the schools in my county already have armed “resource officers” in the schools. Big freaking deal.

Cops are armed wherever they go. If they sit armed in their own office near the school administration offices what’s the freaking difference if they are seen by the kids there or at the mall or local store?

I was at a JROTC meeting once and an off-duty officer sat across from me. Guess what? He was in plain clothes and armed. The kids could have cared less.

Sure, I’m all for letting teachers have the option to carry. But the Black Helicopter types here, and in the media, are making an armed cop inside a school sound like a squad of SWAT officers camped-out in the cafeteria 24/7.


23 posted on 12/21/2012 8:23:06 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Bathhouse Barry wants YOU to bend over for another four years)
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To: Red in Blue PA

No, to police officers in schools.

Did we not learn our lessons with DHS and the TSA? Give the government/controlling authority a drop and they grab an ocean.

I would prefer to have a few well-trained administrators/teachers in the schools, former military parents if they must, but NO to police officers/guards/government/some new stupid organization that will need a freakin’ czar to run it.


24 posted on 12/21/2012 8:36:32 PM PST by madison10
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To: Red in Blue PA

I support NRA’s proposal for putting armed police officers in schools in every county that voted for Romney.


25 posted on 12/21/2012 8:39:32 PM PST by Albion Wilde (The only way to stop a man with a gun is with a gun. --Daniel Greenfield)
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To: Albion Wilde

Do you support the NRA’s proposal for putting armed police officers in schools throughout the nation?
Category: Nation
Voting began on 12/21/2012
Voting ends on 12/22/2012

A.
Yes - 1465 (35%)

B.
No - 2531 (61%)

C.
Not sure - 163 (4%)
4,159 Respondents


26 posted on 12/21/2012 8:41:22 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: Lorianne

>> I am pro 2nd Amendment and voted NO.
>> Our schools are already like prisons. We don’t need to make them more so.

C’mon, that’s not what the vote is about.


27 posted on 12/21/2012 8:56:03 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: BitWielder1

An alternative would be an administrator or two trained to handle a gun. This could be locked up until needed. He/she needs tactical training, too, of course.


28 posted on 12/21/2012 9:22:59 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Up to 36% yes, 60% no now - does anyone really think that 26 innocent people would have died in Newport had there been an armed guard of some type present when Mr. Lanza started to shoot his way into the school???.....


29 posted on 12/21/2012 9:27:00 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: RobbyS
This could be locked up until needed

By the time you get to where the gun is locked up and get it unlocked, it will more than likely be too late.

30 posted on 12/21/2012 9:27:25 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Lorianne

Our schools are already like prisons. We don’t need to make them more so.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Let them be shot then. No problemo, eh?


31 posted on 12/21/2012 9:29:02 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Alaska Wolf

At Columbine, there was a deputy sheriff in his car outside the school. It took him a while to respond, but when he did he traded fire with one of the killers. They exchanged about ten shots. I am thinking of a gun in the main office, with someone in that office able to use it. He/she would be a lot closer to the action than that deputy. Think of the analogy of a fire extinguisher.


32 posted on 12/21/2012 9:35:30 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The idea is an epic fail. More FedMob intrusion into the states? The Feds have no business in the schools in the first place.


33 posted on 12/21/2012 9:41:25 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Candor7

Yes, that’s exactly what I said. Let’s shoot all 1st graders


34 posted on 12/21/2012 9:43:36 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Gene Eric

Yes it is. It is asking us if we want to live in lock-down everywhere.


35 posted on 12/21/2012 9:46:15 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: madison10

I agree. We need to do away with the “gun-free zone” nonsense and simply allow legally licensed citizens, including teachers, janitors, coaches, whatever to carry concealed where permitted by existing law.
I have to believe that someday cities like Chicago, New York,Detroit, Distr. of Columbia, etc will see the light and stop stifling the 2nd amendment.
Where this can’t be done under existing laws or regulations, then armed contractors can be hired, but they must not be government employees!


36 posted on 12/21/2012 9:46:46 PM PST by Halcontent
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To: Red in Blue PA
I don't think we really need a law to have all teaching staff arm themselves. What we really need is to take away the restrictions for the staff and law-abiding citizens to arm themselves on school property etc.

If we make schools, (all schools), NON-GUN-FREE areas then those that can and WILL carry, (concealed or not), will step up and protect themselves and their charges.

If the BAD GUY does not know if someone is armed or not, things will change in a BIG way, trust me. You don't want to mess with me because you don't know what I can or will do to protect my kids as well as the children of others. I don't want to mess with you because I don't know what you can or will do to stop me if I were to try something so stupid.

I am quite comfortable with that arrangement and I am prepared to bid you good day and go my way and leave you to do the same. I am also willing and prepared to assist you in protecting you, your family and your right to do same if needs be.

The right thing to do, in my opinion, is: “NO GUN FREE ZONES” as these are established and advertised as “UNAPPOSED KILL ZONES” for the “BAD GUYS” to use as hunting grounds at their pleasure.

GOD Bless,

RAWGUY

37 posted on 12/21/2012 9:49:13 PM PST by RAWGUY
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Do you support the NRA’s proposal for putting armed police officers in schools throughout the nation?
Category: Nation
Voting began on 12/21/2012
Voting ends on 12/22/2012

A.
Yes - 1599 (37%)

B.
No - 2597 (60%)

C.
Not sure - 166 (4%)


38 posted on 12/21/2012 9:49:48 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Lorianne

A Rather Modest Proposal.LOL.

Just make home schooling compulsory. The public school system has just died, having outlived its usefulness by 2 decades.

Shooting Galleries where children are summarily slaughtered without the slightest chance of the exercise of one of the most basic individual rights since the Magna Carta, that of self defence, set up for use by the possessed, the abominable and the insane , do not seem to conflict with any zoning laws that I have seen.

Bizarro world has indeed arrived here in the United States of Zimbabwe.


39 posted on 12/21/2012 9:51:59 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: RobbyS
I am thinking of a gun in the main office, with someone in that office able to use it

What if that someone is in a meeting or called out of the office. In order for a firearm to be useful in a time of need, it must be immediately available.

40 posted on 12/21/2012 9:53:27 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

And suppose the cop is outside in his car attending the kids who are smoking? That was the case at Columbine. If the White House guard had been standing by the door at the Ford theatre, as he was supposed to, Lincoln would have lived out his second term.


41 posted on 12/21/2012 10:02:37 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RobbyS

Good point.
I also suggest that if I were in the audience and armed that night John Wilkes Booth would not have made it off that stage or I would have died also trying to kill him.

It would not have saved the President, as he was already shot by that time, but it would have established an expectation for those who would try such a thing.

In answer to the supposed question: Yes, I would have been armed and I would have gone after Booth. Also, it is not likely that I would miss if I shot at him unless he shot me first.

It is a moot point, to be sure, history is what it is, but it is also just a matter of one’s own set of values and what one is prepared to do at any given moment in time. I wasn’t there so we will never know that outcome, will we.?

GOD Bless,

RAWGUY


42 posted on 12/21/2012 10:39:01 PM PST by RAWGUY
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To: RobbyS
And suppose the cop is outside in his car attending the kids who are smoking?

First I don't believe those people assigned for security have to be police officers.

How many 6 and 7 year old kids drive to school and smoke?

43 posted on 12/21/2012 10:56:06 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

The LEO in the small town where my grandchild goes to elementary school pulled his deputies out of the headquarters when they are assigned to desk duty and put them in the school. They do their paper work there. The school gave them an office. Now the children are protected and the officers still get their paper work done. No extra cost. That is using common sense to solve a problem on the local level. No gov. needed.


44 posted on 12/22/2012 12:09:20 AM PST by WVNan
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To: Red in Blue PA

How about a security system designed and installed by professionals in the business instead of school administrators paper programs that have been rescently accepted as adequate by the teachers union president, “we dont need an armed camp we need safe and nurturing environment for our teachers and students” Parents look beyond the emotion these cretans are once again hoping to calm your fears with NOTHING but the same, your children are still in danger guns or no guns


45 posted on 12/22/2012 3:15:39 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Being Breitbart)
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To: Red in Blue PA

While I agree with the NRA’s basic idea I would prefer we allow (selected) teachers to be armed.


46 posted on 12/22/2012 3:55:00 AM PST by Ed Story
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To: Red in Blue PA

I don’t understand the problem here. Every school in America has at least one security guard already. JUST ARM HIM!


47 posted on 12/22/2012 7:22:27 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Red in Blue PA
This really shouldn't be portrayed as the "NRA's Plan".

It's really Bill Clinton's Plan:

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/apr/16/news/mn-20323
48 posted on 12/22/2012 7:37:21 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Alaska Wolf

The point I make is that the policeman may also be out of position. There is no sure thing. All you can do is to minimize the damage.


49 posted on 12/22/2012 5:20:11 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RAWGUY

The audience was confused, giving them little time to react. Only in movies does the hero always react with lightning speed. In real life, it is the rare individual to who is able to react in time.


50 posted on 12/22/2012 5:23:30 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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