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Parents Hesitant About NRA Armed Schools Proposal
ABC New ^ | December 21, | CHRISTINE ARMARIO AP Education Writer

Posted on 12/21/2012 11:06:23 AM PST by mdittmar

Parents and administrators' reactions are ranging from hesitation to anger over a proposal by the nation's largest gun-rights lobby to put an armed police officer in every school.

Superintendent Hank Grishman of the Jericho, N.Y., schools on Long Island says he is outraged by the idea. He says putting more guns in schools won't make children safer, and could even put them in the line of more gunfire.

Parent Helen Gym in Philadelphia believes the proposal is "extraordinarily opportunistic."

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That was quick;)
1 posted on 12/21/2012 11:06:30 AM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

Gungrabbing horseshit. They, the supposed parents concerned over their children’s safety wouldn’t think twice if a police officer entered their school with a (gawd, dread!) gun strapped to their waist, would they?

Why would a trained, sanctioned, checked-out, dedicated protector of their children be any different. Horseshit, just liberal horseshit.


2 posted on 12/21/2012 11:11:20 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: mdittmar
That was quick;)

Very quick. "It's almost like they were organized."

Community organized, that is.

Mr. niteowl77

3 posted on 12/21/2012 11:13:05 AM PST by niteowl77 (Oh, crap.)
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To: mdittmar
reactions are ranging from hesitation to anger

No approval, no thoughtful consideration. Nope, the entire range of reactions is negative.

Superintendent Hank Grishman of the Jericho, N.Y., schools on Long Island says he is outraged by the idea. He says putting more guns in schools won't make children safer, and could even put them in the line of more gunfire.

Hey, stuperintendent, the Newtown shooting didn't stop until the cops showed up and brought whole lot more guns into the school.

4 posted on 12/21/2012 11:13:23 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: Gaffer

I might add that IF these ‘parents’ are legitimate and not politically inclined against guns, then one’s only conclusion to this is that the only way they can assure their children aren’t shot, is that they expect that each and every goddam gun in this country is banned and confiscated. Something that only a complete idiot would assume possible.


5 posted on 12/21/2012 11:13:46 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: mdittmar
Even though the most liberal President in history was just re-elected, I think this current debate is going to work in our favor.

There's too much information getting out there about how guns aid in self-defense.

I do believe that many, many schools and other institutions are going to employ armed guards in the wake of this debate thereby cutting down on gun violence.

And much more of the public will see that the NRA and gun advocates have been right all this time.

6 posted on 12/21/2012 11:14:21 AM PST by what's up
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To: mdittmar; Grampa Dave; tubebender; dixiechick2000; Liz; marsh2; AuntB; calcowgirl

Oh sure! This crappola from the same network that gave us George Steponallofus in the debates with his non-sequiter and irrelevant questions designed to trigger a “GOP War On Women” smoke screen. You bet they are quick!!!


7 posted on 12/21/2012 11:14:36 AM PST by SierraWasp (Blessed are they who prospect, dig & drill, for they are the primary producers of new, real wealth!!)
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To: SierraWasp

They aren’t quick...they planned this -— as soon as the first news came.


8 posted on 12/21/2012 11:15:24 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: mdittmar

Quick response indeed! You couldn’t find an school administrator or teacher this time of year. Christmas vacation & “snow day” on top of it, doncha know?


9 posted on 12/21/2012 11:16:32 AM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: mdittmar
Let's look at flying commercially. The airport perimeter is secure and you have armed sky marshals on board the aircraft.

Let's look at schools. You have a porous perimeter that isn't very secure, even with the doors locked, and you have no armed presence inside.

Are leftists that stupid? Are they so brainwashed that their irrational fear of guns trumps the lives of the children entrusted to their care? This is where the debate needs to start. Schools have no control over external factors such as the mentally ill, violent video games that desensitize, the number of firearms owned by the public, the amount of ammo out there, etc. School administrators only control their respective schools. They need to start thinking in terms of securing their perimeter and having staff available as first responders, because when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

10 posted on 12/21/2012 11:16:51 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Hank Grishman, if we follow what he said very carefully, doesn't want MORE guns in the schools ~

So, where are the guns that are already in the schools?

His statement is rather self-incriminating ~ because he clearly implies there are a lot of guns in the schools he knows about.

11 posted on 12/21/2012 11:18:17 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: mdittmar
I say we should arm the lunch ladies.


12 posted on 12/21/2012 11:19:01 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: mdittmar

“Superintendent Hank Grishman of the Jericho, N.Y., schools on Long Island says he is outraged by the idea. He says putting more guns in schools won’t make children safer, and could even put them in the line of more gunfire.”

Freaking a-hole. The only thing that wouldnt outrage him is to punish hundreds of millions of gun owners for the action of a lunatic. Better to lock up the lunatics and leave the rest of us alone.


13 posted on 12/21/2012 11:19:15 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: mdittmar

There are schools that are in high crime areas that have low rates of crime on campus. I went to a private high school in one of the worst areas of Los Angeles. The campus is surrounded by walls and there are armed guards. The University of Southern California is another example. Newtown type massacres don’t happen there like they do at gun free schools.


14 posted on 12/21/2012 11:21:28 AM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: mdittmar
Superintendent Hank Grishman of the Jericho, N.Y., schools on Long Island says he is outraged by the idea. He says putting more guns in schools won't make children safer, and could even put them in the line of more gunfire.

Hank is irrational and should be fired immediately.

Hank is inviting a Sandy Hook style massacre at the schools of which he is the superintendent.

Shame on Hank!

15 posted on 12/21/2012 11:22:07 AM PST by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

If I were a kid, I’d rather be in “the line of more gunfire” if the gunfire is coming from someone trying to kill the lunatic who is trying to murder me...rather than just be taking bullets from the lunatic. This “superintendent” is insane.


16 posted on 12/21/2012 11:22:48 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

There is a guard with a gun in every public building.


17 posted on 12/21/2012 11:23:00 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: mdittmar

Of course there “Concerned” . They always are. /s.


18 posted on 12/21/2012 11:23:14 AM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: mdittmar
He says putting more guns in schools won't make children safer, and could even put them in the line of more gunfire.<<

Sure..instead of having trained armed people already at the school....let the cops show up 15 minutes after the shooting starts and disarm the cops at the door so the cops wont “put them in the line of more gunfire”

makes great liberal sense to me!....Geez!..../s (Cops aren't trained nearly as well for those situations as many ex-military NRA members...)

19 posted on 12/21/2012 11:24:14 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: KarlInOhio

Let us follow this to its conclusion. These parents are adamantly opposed to duly approved firearms in their schools. Even if all the good guys in the country were to hand in their guns tomorrow, the bad guys would still have theirs or would be able to buy them in a newly thriving black market. Therefore, these parents must be satisfied waiting for the police to arrive on the scene twenty minutes later. A this point they don’t need the police, just the CSI folks.


20 posted on 12/21/2012 11:25:43 AM PST by dogcaller
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To: mdittmar

Maybe these selected parents would prefer that the schools be designated as Double Special Gun Free Zones, i.e., not only the victims but also now the perps are not allowed to possess guns.


21 posted on 12/21/2012 11:26:06 AM PST by Amagi (John "Cry Baby" Boehner is a traitorous weasel.)
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To: mdittmar
As a parent, a gun owner, a life long shooter, a Marine, a carry permit holder, the son of Sheriff's Deputy, and a current school District IT Network Administrator...

I want everyone who feels capable of bearing arms, in schools, churches, malls, and elsewhere... To be able to do so without fear of prosecution.

Literally, it is the ONLY way to protect everyone everywhere under all circumstances.

Full stop. End of story.

22 posted on 12/21/2012 11:26:35 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: mdittmar

“Parent Helen Gym in Philadelphia believes the proposal is “extraordinarily opportunistic.””

And now that we know what you think of Obama, what do you think of what the NRA said?


23 posted on 12/21/2012 11:29:57 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: mdittmar

What do you expect from people who suspend kids for drawing a sketch of a gun?


24 posted on 12/21/2012 11:33:05 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: mdittmar

Not this parent. There is already an armed deputy in my daughter’s school, and I can think of more than a couple of teachers and admins I wouldn’t mind being armed - they’re reservists and National Guard and retired military/leo


25 posted on 12/21/2012 11:35:19 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: mdittmar
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26 posted on 12/21/2012 11:37:21 AM PST by MtnMan101
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To: mdittmar

If you Google “School Resource Officers” you’ll discover there is a nationwide program that already is placing police officers in schools. They do it in my county and they hardly ever randomly gun down a student. They’re also great recruiters for a law enforcement career path. I’m completely baffled by those who are shocked by the concept.


27 posted on 12/21/2012 11:38:06 AM PST by Spok
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To: mdittmar
“Superintendent Hank Grishman of the Jericho, N.Y., schools on Long Island says he is outraged by the idea.”

Tell me, how many years of training and experience does it take a Superintendent in NY public education to get this stupid?

28 posted on 12/21/2012 11:39:16 AM PST by Towed_Jumper (I fart in Muhammed's general direction!)
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To: mdittmar
If Banks and Politicians have armed security protecting them, why don't our SCHOOLS? Aren't our children worth more than money or these lousy politicians in Washington DC?

I say YES, they are! And I'll be going to the next School Board Meeting and demanding that they provide ARMED SECURITY in the schools my children attend!

29 posted on 12/21/2012 11:41:11 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: AlaskaErik

“Are leftists that stupid? Are they so brainwashed that their irrational fear of guns trumps the lives of the children entrusted to their care?”

Well some maybe. But this is about taking control of everything. They know that if we the people have no guns they can impose their will. Take your property, your wealth, your children, anything. Look at how well it has worked in the past for Germany, Russia, China, anywhere there is oppression.

Let’s frame this correctly. This is a CIVIL RIGHTS issue.
Every time someone suggests that there should be more gun laws, our reply must refer to it as a violation of our CIVIL RIGHTS.


30 posted on 12/21/2012 11:45:19 AM PST by Clean_Sweep
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To: I want the USA back
My Grand daughters are up to the woods for some Target practice.
31 posted on 12/21/2012 11:46:09 AM PST by Little Bill (A)
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To: mdittmar

As usual the sheeple believe they will be safe from the wolves by getting rid of the shepherd and his dog and pretending there are are no wolves out there.


32 posted on 12/21/2012 11:47:18 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: Amagi

“Biger signs” oughtta do it!


33 posted on 12/21/2012 11:52:13 AM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: mdittmar
He says putting more guns in schools won't make children safer, and could even put them in the line of more gunfire.

How does someone who can say something THAT irretrievably asinine become the school superintendent?

It's like making that Kinko's clerk that served her jury duty in a Star Trek uniform head of NASA!

34 posted on 12/21/2012 11:55:58 AM PST by papertyger
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To: massgopguy
There is a guard with a gun in every public building.

That is because the public employees need protection, and they are vulnerable, and soft, and easily hurt, and psycologically injured, by mere mention of bad guys with guns.

Not so our elementary school children. /s

35 posted on 12/21/2012 11:58:20 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: mdittmar

So Superintendant Hank Grishman and parent Helen Gym, do you, or do you not, wish that there was someone armed at SHES to confront that evil a-hole? When a similar attack occurs, and your children are in the school, do you, or do you not, hope that someone is armed to confront the attacker? Answer the questions! They are easy answers for any sane person. That is, someone who is not a left-wing liberal idealogue with his head up his ass!


36 posted on 12/21/2012 12:00:25 PM PST by Batman11 (We came for the chicken sandwiches and a Sweet Tea Party broke out!)
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To: mdittmar

B.S.


37 posted on 12/21/2012 12:02:09 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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To: mdittmar
"If anything it would be less safe for kids. You would be putting them in the midst of potentially more gunfire."

This is what passes for logic with liberals. He's (very much) unwittingly suggesting that it's safer for the students that the maniac shooter is only one there with a gun....

38 posted on 12/21/2012 12:10:27 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: mdittmar
"If anything it would be less safe for kids. You would be putting them in the midst of potentially more gunfire."

This is what passes for logic with liberals. He's (very much) unwittingly suggesting that it's safer for the students that the maniac shooter is only one there with a gun....

39 posted on 12/21/2012 12:10:51 PM PST by tbpiper
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He says putting more guns in schools won't make children safer

Putting MORE guns in schools??? I thought guns were banned.

40 posted on 12/21/2012 12:12:08 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: mdittmar

This guy plays the duel roles of dumb and dumber.


41 posted on 12/21/2012 12:23:48 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: AlaskaErik
You gotta understand - if this proposal generates any kind of positive feedback, and results in a growing chorus of approval, the Left, not being entirely devoid of cognitive intelligence, would seek to commandeer the discussion, and maintain it was theirs from the start.

Further, if it is going to be done, the newly trained school marshalls (every single one of them) will have to be unionized, much like their TSA brethren.

“If you want to professionalize, you must Federalize!!!”

CA....

42 posted on 12/21/2012 12:27:01 PM PST by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: mdittmar

Using that “logic”, the police and even the military should be disarmed because someone who shouldn’t be shot could be put in the line of more gunfire.


43 posted on 12/21/2012 12:32:17 PM PST by FreedomForce (Living in the Age of American Soft Despotism)
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To: mdittmar
Parents Hesitant About NRA Armed Schools Proposal

parents? they only interview one - and that person is a community activist

44 posted on 12/21/2012 12:36:22 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Gaffer

I just found out this week that my kids’ school has armed security guards. I was relieved. It’s a private school.


45 posted on 12/21/2012 12:37:09 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Gaffer

I just found out this week that my kids’ school has armed security guards. I was relieved. It’s a private school.


46 posted on 12/21/2012 12:37:12 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: mdittmar

I guess the morons would prefer more dead children.


47 posted on 12/21/2012 12:39:32 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: luckystarmom

My kids have gone to schools in Seminole county, Florida. Each school has a friendly Sheriff’s Deputy onsite. This is certainly not a guarantee that nothing bad will ever happen, but I bet the wannabe Lanzas/Loughners/Hearns types out there will look for a more “friendly” location to act out their psychotic rage! Why any parent would want their kids to be in a school 8 hrs/day, 5 days/week with no trained armed security in this day and age is beyond belief!


48 posted on 12/21/2012 12:52:34 PM PST by nuvista (Obama-care - you think that arrogant Marxist "cares" about you?)
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To: mdittmar

My response to liberals is:

“You’re ok with the idea of protecting banksters’ money with armed guards at banks, but you’re not ok with the idea of protecting school kids’ lives?”


49 posted on 12/21/2012 12:53:02 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: VanDeKoik

“Parent Helen Gym in Philadelphia believes the proposal is “extraordinarily opportunistic.””

Well look here, Helen just regurgitated two $10 words she overheard at a cocktail party a while back that state absolutely nothing. More words of wisdom from a typical clueless pseudo intellectual.


50 posted on 12/21/2012 12:53:16 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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