Posted on 12/21/2012 11:06:23 AM PST by mdittmar
Parents and administrators' reactions are ranging from hesitation to anger over a proposal by the nation's largest gun-rights lobby to put an armed police officer in every school.
Superintendent Hank Grishman of the Jericho, N.Y., schools on Long Island says he is outraged by the idea. He says putting more guns in schools won't make children safer, and could even put them in the line of more gunfire.
Parent Helen Gym in Philadelphia believes the proposal is "extraordinarily opportunistic."
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Gungrabbing horseshit. They, the supposed parents concerned over their children’s safety wouldn’t think twice if a police officer entered their school with a (gawd, dread!) gun strapped to their waist, would they?
Why would a trained, sanctioned, checked-out, dedicated protector of their children be any different. Horseshit, just liberal horseshit.
Very quick. "It's almost like they were organized."
Community organized, that is.
Mr. niteowl77
No approval, no thoughtful consideration. Nope, the entire range of reactions is negative.
Superintendent Hank Grishman of the Jericho, N.Y., schools on Long Island says he is outraged by the idea. He says putting more guns in schools won't make children safer, and could even put them in the line of more gunfire.
Hey, stuperintendent, the Newtown shooting didn't stop until the cops showed up and brought whole lot more guns into the school.
I might add that IF these ‘parents’ are legitimate and not politically inclined against guns, then one’s only conclusion to this is that the only way they can assure their children aren’t shot, is that they expect that each and every goddam gun in this country is banned and confiscated. Something that only a complete idiot would assume possible.
There's too much information getting out there about how guns aid in self-defense.
I do believe that many, many schools and other institutions are going to employ armed guards in the wake of this debate thereby cutting down on gun violence.
And much more of the public will see that the NRA and gun advocates have been right all this time.
Oh sure! This crappola from the same network that gave us George Steponallofus in the debates with his non-sequiter and irrelevant questions designed to trigger a “GOP War On Women” smoke screen. You bet they are quick!!!
They aren’t quick...they planned this -— as soon as the first news came.
Quick response indeed! You couldn’t find an school administrator or teacher this time of year. Christmas vacation & “snow day” on top of it, doncha know?
Let's look at schools. You have a porous perimeter that isn't very secure, even with the doors locked, and you have no armed presence inside.
Are leftists that stupid? Are they so brainwashed that their irrational fear of guns trumps the lives of the children entrusted to their care? This is where the debate needs to start. Schools have no control over external factors such as the mentally ill, violent video games that desensitize, the number of firearms owned by the public, the amount of ammo out there, etc. School administrators only control their respective schools. They need to start thinking in terms of securing their perimeter and having staff available as first responders, because when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
So, where are the guns that are already in the schools?
His statement is rather self-incriminating ~ because he clearly implies there are a lot of guns in the schools he knows about.
“Superintendent Hank Grishman of the Jericho, N.Y., schools on Long Island says he is outraged by the idea. He says putting more guns in schools won’t make children safer, and could even put them in the line of more gunfire.”
Freaking a-hole. The only thing that wouldnt outrage him is to punish hundreds of millions of gun owners for the action of a lunatic. Better to lock up the lunatics and leave the rest of us alone.
There are schools that are in high crime areas that have low rates of crime on campus. I went to a private high school in one of the worst areas of Los Angeles. The campus is surrounded by walls and there are armed guards. The University of Southern California is another example. Newtown type massacres don’t happen there like they do at gun free schools.
Hank is irrational and should be fired immediately.
Hank is inviting a Sandy Hook style massacre at the schools of which he is the superintendent.
Shame on Hank!
If I were a kid, I’d rather be in “the line of more gunfire” if the gunfire is coming from someone trying to kill the lunatic who is trying to murder me...rather than just be taking bullets from the lunatic. This “superintendent” is insane.
There is a guard with a gun in every public building.
Of course there “Concerned” . They always are. /s.
Sure..instead of having trained armed people already at the school....let the cops show up 15 minutes after the shooting starts and disarm the cops at the door so the cops wont “put them in the line of more gunfire”
makes great liberal sense to me!....Geez!..../s (Cops aren't trained nearly as well for those situations as many ex-military NRA members...)
Let us follow this to its conclusion. These parents are adamantly opposed to duly approved firearms in their schools. Even if all the good guys in the country were to hand in their guns tomorrow, the bad guys would still have theirs or would be able to buy them in a newly thriving black market. Therefore, these parents must be satisfied waiting for the police to arrive on the scene twenty minutes later. A this point they don’t need the police, just the CSI folks.
Maybe these selected parents would prefer that the schools be designated as Double Special Gun Free Zones, i.e., not only the victims but also now the perps are not allowed to possess guns.
I want everyone who feels capable of bearing arms, in schools, churches, malls, and elsewhere... To be able to do so without fear of prosecution.
Literally, it is the ONLY way to protect everyone everywhere under all circumstances.
Full stop. End of story.
“Parent Helen Gym in Philadelphia believes the proposal is “extraordinarily opportunistic.””
And now that we know what you think of Obama, what do you think of what the NRA said?
What do you expect from people who suspend kids for drawing a sketch of a gun?
Not this parent. There is already an armed deputy in my daughter’s school, and I can think of more than a couple of teachers and admins I wouldn’t mind being armed - they’re reservists and National Guard and retired military/leo
If you Google “School Resource Officers” you’ll discover there is a nationwide program that already is placing police officers in schools. They do it in my county and they hardly ever randomly gun down a student. They’re also great recruiters for a law enforcement career path. I’m completely baffled by those who are shocked by the concept.
Tell me, how many years of training and experience does it take a Superintendent in NY public education to get this stupid?
I say YES, they are! And I'll be going to the next School Board Meeting and demanding that they provide ARMED SECURITY in the schools my children attend!
“Are leftists that stupid? Are they so brainwashed that their irrational fear of guns trumps the lives of the children entrusted to their care?”
Well some maybe. But this is about taking control of everything. They know that if we the people have no guns they can impose their will. Take your property, your wealth, your children, anything. Look at how well it has worked in the past for Germany, Russia, China, anywhere there is oppression.
Let’s frame this correctly. This is a CIVIL RIGHTS issue.
Every time someone suggests that there should be more gun laws, our reply must refer to it as a violation of our CIVIL RIGHTS.
As usual the sheeple believe they will be safe from the wolves by getting rid of the shepherd and his dog and pretending there are are no wolves out there.
“Biger signs” oughtta do it!
How does someone who can say something THAT irretrievably asinine become the school superintendent?
It's like making that Kinko's clerk that served her jury duty in a Star Trek uniform head of NASA!
That is because the public employees need protection, and they are vulnerable, and soft, and easily hurt, and psycologically injured, by mere mention of bad guys with guns.
Not so our elementary school children. /s
So Superintendant Hank Grishman and parent Helen Gym, do you, or do you not, wish that there was someone armed at SHES to confront that evil a-hole? When a similar attack occurs, and your children are in the school, do you, or do you not, hope that someone is armed to confront the attacker? Answer the questions! They are easy answers for any sane person. That is, someone who is not a left-wing liberal idealogue with his head up his ass!
B.S.
This is what passes for logic with liberals. He's (very much) unwittingly suggesting that it's safer for the students that the maniac shooter is only one there with a gun....
This is what passes for logic with liberals. He's (very much) unwittingly suggesting that it's safer for the students that the maniac shooter is only one there with a gun....
Putting MORE guns in schools??? I thought guns were banned.
This guy plays the duel roles of dumb and dumber.
Further, if it is going to be done, the newly trained school marshalls (every single one of them) will have to be unionized, much like their TSA brethren.
“If you want to professionalize, you must Federalize!!!”
CA....
Using that “logic”, the police and even the military should be disarmed because someone who shouldn’t be shot could be put in the line of more gunfire.
parents? they only interview one - and that person is a community activist
I just found out this week that my kids’ school has armed security guards. I was relieved. It’s a private school.
I just found out this week that my kids’ school has armed security guards. I was relieved. It’s a private school.
I guess the morons would prefer more dead children.
My kids have gone to schools in Seminole county, Florida. Each school has a friendly Sheriff’s Deputy onsite. This is certainly not a guarantee that nothing bad will ever happen, but I bet the wannabe Lanzas/Loughners/Hearns types out there will look for a more “friendly” location to act out their psychotic rage! Why any parent would want their kids to be in a school 8 hrs/day, 5 days/week with no trained armed security in this day and age is beyond belief!
My response to liberals is:
“You’re ok with the idea of protecting banksters’ money with armed guards at banks, but you’re not ok with the idea of protecting school kids’ lives?”
Parent Helen Gym in Philadelphia believes the proposal is extraordinarily opportunistic.
Well look here, Helen just regurgitated two $10 words she overheard at a cocktail party a while back that state absolutely nothing. More words of wisdom from a typical clueless pseudo intellectual.
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