Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Joe Friday: Man Out of Time
am spectator ^ | 12/21/12 | d flynn

Posted on 12/21/2012 7:03:09 AM PST by bestintxas

Dragnet’s Jack Webb died thirty years ago, and a lot of America has been dead ever since.

Jack Webb, who died thirty years ago this weekend, arrived at the right time. “After the war, people were much more realistic,” notes Peggy Webber, star of more than 100 Dragnet episodes. “They wanted things to be as honest as possible. And he filled the bill.”

Dragnet, as the just-the-facts catchphrase it inspired indicates, depicted police work without the frills. Whereas other detective stories attracted listeners through the promise of a weekly shootout, Dragnet snagged them by keeping the weapons holstered. The iconic music, gimmicky teasers promising to reveal case results, and insistence that the show dramatized real-life events joined with the deadpan deliveries to provide the program an audience and authenticity.

My favorite radio episode involved a disturbed old man who for thrills made emergency phone calls for fake car accidents and the like. Typical broadcasts included bunco swindles of Korean War widows, juvenile delinquent rumbles, and small-time robberies of mom-and-pop outlets. Occasionally, the radio run tackled heroin, pornography, and other (im?)mature themes. The hustlers argued their innocence. They never, unlike their counterparts in the ’60s-era television version, argued the innocence of hustling. Crime hadn’t changed. Criminals had.

This became startlingly evident on the January 12, 1967 premiere episode of Dragnet 1967, which depicts a blue-faced teenager tripping on acid. Blue Boy memorably makes numerous non sequitur observations: “Brown, blue, yellow, green, green, orange, red. Red! Red! Red! I can hear them! I can hear them all!” Fifties, meet the sixties.

We remember this post-Miranda incarnation of Dragnet, despite it

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dragnet
Love this series. To hear Joe Friday spill it out watch here

http://www.otrdetectives.com/dragnet/my-favorite-1960s-dragnet-1-the-big-departure/

1 posted on 12/21/2012 7:03:17 AM PST by bestintxas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

And don’t forget his sidekick, Henry Morgan - he was great in MASH, too.


2 posted on 12/21/2012 7:13:08 AM PST by Sioux-san
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

http://www.otrdetectives.com/dragnet/my-favorite-1960s-dragnet-1-the-big-departure/

I second your suggestion. I have listened every single one of the radio shows and still go back and listen again. Great radio plays and in my opinion better than either TV version Especially the second.
Damn, but we sure need a Joe Friday today.


3 posted on 12/21/2012 7:23:11 AM PST by Tupelo (I'm an old man and most people hate me, but I don't like them either so that makes it all even.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

The 1950s tv version of “Dragnet” really needs to circulate and be seen again (it has a harder edge to it than the late-60s version). Two dozen or so episodes are easily available, due to their public-domain status, but the prints tend to be pretty ratty. The whole 1950s run should be re-mastered and syndicated. It’s an important piece of americana. Yet it sits in film vaults, the vast majority of the run remaining unseen for generations.


4 posted on 12/21/2012 7:24:51 AM PST by greene66
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas
Jack Webb was also excellent in a fun movie we recently watched: Pete Kelly's Blues from 1955. It also features Janet Leigh, Ella Fitzgerald, Peggy Lee, Martin Milner, and a cameo by Jane Mansfield. Worth seeking out.
5 posted on 12/21/2012 7:25:29 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

Always loved Dragnet, and the semi-spinoff Adam 12.

Webb was also great in a neat little movie called “The D.I.” This is one of my favorite clips from it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riYfFQMPIP0


6 posted on 12/21/2012 7:30:43 AM PST by DemforBush (You might very well think that. I could not *possibly* comment.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Menehune56

Also a role in Sunset Boulevard.


7 posted on 12/21/2012 7:31:35 AM PST by fatnotlazy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

“Just the facts ma’am” was first spoken in a Stan Freberg parody of “Dragnet”.


8 posted on 12/21/2012 7:34:04 AM PST by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

“During World War II, Webb enlisted in the United States Army Air Forces, but he “washed out” of flight training. After that happened, he applied for and received a hardship discharge, being the primary financial support for his mother and grandmother.[6]” Some “Hero”. I believe the word is “Chickenhawk”. Like Gingrich, Cheney, Bushie(43) and the like.


9 posted on 12/21/2012 7:35:08 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

You can still listen to ‘crime time’, on Live 365 dot com.

Jack Webb was a man out of time, yet today, more of us seem to claim that niche, and never expected to, in our lives.

Jack Webb wrote a book titled “The Badge”. I have a print copy of it. It is Jack Webb reading it to you in your ‘reader’s ears’.

He was Persona Americanus.


10 posted on 12/21/2012 7:36:34 AM PST by Terry L Smith
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

From the article, the response to Occupy wahatever:

“Don’t think you have a corner on all the virtue, vision in the country, or that everybody else is fat and selfish and you’re the first generation to come along that’s felt dissatisfied. They all have, you know, about different things. Most of them didn’t have the same opportunity and freedoms that you do. Let’s talk poverty. Most places in the world that’s not a problem. That’s a way of life. And rights? They’re liable to give you a blank stare because they may not know what you’re talking about. The fact is more people are living better right here than anywhere else ever before in history. So don’t expect us to roll over and play dead when you say you’re dissatisfied.”


11 posted on 12/21/2012 7:42:45 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

To add, one of the things I find appealing about “Dragnet” as well as most other old shows is their matter-of-fact, unpretentious dialogue. Reminds me of my parents and grandparents generations, which was just always brimming with straight-arrow conversations and plaintive common sense. Unlike the culture nowadays, which every line and every visual exudes a sort of cynical, naval-gazing self-consciousness. Sarcastic sub-texts to everything said or done. It wears so thin, to put it mildly.


12 posted on 12/21/2012 7:48:47 AM PST by greene66
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas
Jack Webb and Johnny Carson: The Copper Clappers Caper
13 posted on 12/21/2012 8:00:41 AM PST by Bratch
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: US Navy Vet
“During World War II, Webb enlisted in the United States Army Air Forces, but he “washed out” of flight training. After that happened, he applied for and received a hardship discharge, being the primary financial support for his mother and grandmother.[6]” Some “Hero”.

Dang, you're tough to please. Guy volunteers to get his tail shot off in a tin can in the sky, but it turns out he's not a good enough flyer. Are you saying he must have failed on purpose? Do we have some way of knowing? And do we know there was no pressing need for him to take care of his mother and grandmother?

Unconnected, but it seems odd that whatever source doesn't refer to the service as the Army Air Corps, which was the name on all my father's manuals and such.

14 posted on 12/21/2012 8:05:23 AM PST by SamuraiScot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Bratch

One of the best TV bits ever. I still think they were both trying to break each other up.


15 posted on 12/21/2012 8:08:53 AM PST by SAJ (What is the next tagline some overweening mod will censor?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Sioux-san

Honey I’m so old I remember when Ben Alexander was his sidekick.....LOL


16 posted on 12/21/2012 8:13:44 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SamuraiScot

You ENLIST in MY Military and you DO your ENTIRE Obligation. I did(20 Years, 1 Month, 18 Days/US Navy), My Son did(4 Years/US Navy) My other Son did(4 years/United States Marines). So sorry, you sign up for MY MILITARY you either come back carrying you shield or ON IT!


17 posted on 12/21/2012 8:15:20 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

Here is the 50s series in all its glory i have watched them all pretty good video quality.

Dragnet : The Big Oskar
The Big Oskar from the 1950’s series Dragnet
Keywords: Dragnet; Classic TV
Downloads: 10,325
Average rating: 5.0 stars (1 review)

http://archive.org/search.php?query=dragnet%20AND%20collection%3Amoviesandfilms


18 posted on 12/21/2012 8:24:00 AM PST by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fatnotlazy

Which also demonstrated his range as an actor.


19 posted on 12/21/2012 8:24:43 AM PST by onedoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Sioux-san
And don’t forget his sidekick, Henry Morgan - he was great in MASH, too.

Interestingly, Morgan was the bad guy in some of the radio episodes.

20 posted on 12/21/2012 8:28:26 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Fresh Wind

really? I didn’t know that. Great radio voices.


21 posted on 12/21/2012 8:36:35 AM PST by Sioux-san
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: fatnotlazy

He was the bad guy in “Appointment with Danger.” Freaked me out when he clubbed Harry Morgan to death with a pair of bronzed baby shoes.


22 posted on 12/21/2012 8:42:40 AM PST by Overtaxed
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas

During his divorce, Jack Webb had the LAPD wiretape Julie London’s phone. So much for the myth.


23 posted on 12/21/2012 8:45:08 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Overtaxed

Never saw that movie. I’ll have to see if I can find it.


24 posted on 12/21/2012 8:46:32 AM PST by fatnotlazy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Lees Swrd

Wasn’t there also a Dragnet movie from that era? I thought I might have seen it advertised on one of the retro stations recently.


25 posted on 12/21/2012 8:51:18 AM PST by fatnotlazy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: DManA; Revolting cat!; Daffynition

26 posted on 12/21/2012 8:52:06 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: US Navy Vet

Chickenhawk is the term used by homosexuals to describe adult men who chase young boys.

Might as well call him a teabagger.


27 posted on 12/21/2012 8:53:52 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: fatnotlazy

It may be this one it is also at Internet Archive.

He Walked By Night - Bryan Foy
Gripping film noir crime drama about a manhunt for a ruthless killer who plays a deadly cat and mouse game with the police. Starring Richard Basehart, Scott Brady, Whit Bissell, and Jack Webb, this movie was the basis for “Dragnet”. Watch for Whit Bissell, the unsung but solid bit player who has appeared in hundreds of films and TV shows
Keywords: crime drama; manhunt; film noir
Downloads: 46,524
Average rating: 4.11 stars (18 reviews)


28 posted on 12/21/2012 8:56:30 AM PST by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: bestintxas
“After the war, people were much more realistic,” “They wanted things to be as honest as possible.

As opposed to the current generation who gravitates to whomever can tell the most impressive lies on television. (Clinton, Obummer, etc.)


29 posted on 12/21/2012 9:13:17 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lees Swrd

Maybe. But I thought the ad for the movie I referred to called it “Dragnet” or something. When I get a minute, I’ll do some research.

Thanks though. Another movie to see


30 posted on 12/21/2012 10:53:39 AM PST by fatnotlazy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Lees Swrd

I may have found it. From 1954:

http:/imdb.com/title/tt0046931/

There was also another movie done in 1966. Apparently, it was favorably received by the network that the series was revived. The movie, however, wasn’t shown to the public till 1969.


31 posted on 12/21/2012 11:38:27 AM PST by fatnotlazy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: US Navy Vet
So sorry, you sign up for MY MILITARY you either come back carrying you shield or ON IT!

But as I understand, the United States military lets you claim hardship under circumstances like Webb's. I'm sure it gets abused by some, and Webb's multiple marriages make him sound like a mixed bag, integrity-wise, but I'm prepared to cut him a little slack, since I know nothing about this case and he did honorable work in his professional life.

Merry Christmas and thank you for your service.

SS

32 posted on 12/23/2012 10:16:11 PM PST by SamuraiScot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson