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Nadler urges Obama to call the NRA enablers of mass murder
capitalnewyork.com ^ | December 14, 2012 | Dana Rubinstein

Posted on 12/14/2012 7:33:58 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Today, following the shooting massacre of 20 children in a Connecticut school, President Obama said that "meaningful action" needed to be taken to prevent such tragedies from happening in the future.

But what "meaningful action" can Obama actually take, given Republican control of the House and Congress' deeply felt fear of the politically mighty National Rifle Association? And politics aside, what new laws would actually solve or make a dent in the country's crazed-gunman problem?

Rep. Jerry Nadler said thinks that the president has only one option.

"There’s only one meaningful action he can take, which is to take on the N.R.A., label them as the enablers of mass murderers* they are, really push for strong gun-control legislation and call out those congressional leaders who don’t support it," Nadler told me this afternoon.

"It is time to call out the N.R.A. as enablers of mass murder and start embarrassing people and saying, 'Who do you stand with? The parents and children of this country or the potential mass murderers?'"

Nadler said there's nothing else Obama can do, realistically.

"There is no other meaningful action," Nadler said. "He has to know that. ... I can’t imagine what else he could have meant."

Nadler attributes the N.R.A.'s power to its ability to terrify politicians.

"If you cross the N.R.A. in certain districts, you know that X percent of people are going to come out and vote against you just because of that," said Nadler. "The N.R.A. will come out and run dishonest ads saying you're in favor of taking guns away from hunters."

By Nadler's logic, the only way to counteract the N.R.A. electoral influence is to wield the power of really bad P.R., and he thinks the president is well-equipped to do that, even if he's been unwilling in the past.


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: New York
KEYWORDS: democrats; guncontrol; jerroldnadler; nadler; sandyhookpolitics; sandyhookshooting; secondamendment
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To: Gene Eric

Thanks Nadler!

I will now go directly to the NRA and make a donation! ha.

Guns sales will go thru the roof now..time for me to buy guns stocks!


21 posted on 12/14/2012 7:54:07 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Several armed and trained teachers could have stopped this clown. But NO... we must keep schools “gun-free zones.” The Libs are the true mass murderers of children.


22 posted on 12/14/2012 7:55:03 PM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: antceecee
Isn’t Nadler that grossly obese man? Maybe his Fork is the enabler of his girth.

He WAS a disgusting lump of fat until his gastric bypass, no doubt at taxpayer's expense. Now, he's still a disgusting lump of fat, but a slightly smaller one.

Obesity causes 100,000–400,000 deaths in the United States per year. Crazy people are responsible for only a tiny fraction of that.

We need food control, not gun control.


23 posted on 12/14/2012 7:56:04 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

And the millions killed by abortion and the carnage in the inner city does not count according to him. The Democrats twist reality to fit their version of the facts. They have no respect for life. This is all about control.


24 posted on 12/14/2012 7:56:14 PM PST by Essie
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Note to Fat Jerry the Retard. The N.R.A. is not Adam Lanza’s mother or father. If you need “enablers”, they would be your “enablers” fat boy.


25 posted on 12/14/2012 7:56:14 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Rep. Jerry Nadler

The leftist, hypocrite POS from New York?

"In the waning days of the Bush Administration, Rep. Nadler continued to be a prominent voice against White House abuse of power, investigating those with a hand in illegally spying, torturing or depriving individuals of due process. A passionate believer in accountability for executive abuses, Nadler has held numerous high-profile hearings and introduced several key bills designed to restore balance and the rule of law, including the State Secret Protection Act, the American Anti-Torture Act, the Midnight Rule Act, and a resolution against pre-emptive pardons by President Bush."

26 posted on 12/14/2012 7:56:22 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Route395

Hey Nadler...How about a kick in the nards for starters you f’ing dimwit!!


He hasn’t seen his nards in years.


27 posted on 12/14/2012 7:56:35 PM PST by o-n-money
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To: oyez

The Libs are already drooling over this, They will propose insane gun-grabbing. When the Repub House disagrees, the Repubs will be branded mass murderers in the 2014 election, with pictures of this shooting run 24/7. They will get and show photos of the dead kids lying on the floor. Might work unless Boner and Co. get off their asses.


28 posted on 12/14/2012 7:58:16 PM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I would think the Mental Health care industry with their psychobabble bull sh*t artist should be blamed rather then the NRA.

When will people wake up and realize the mental health industry is allowing these mentally ill people to walk among us and kill our kids.

29 posted on 12/14/2012 8:00:28 PM PST by WesternPacific (Deafness has its Advantages)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"The N.R.A. will come out and run dishonest ads saying you're in favor of taking guns away from hunters."

No.

It's dishonest to come out and say that the second amendment is all about "hunting".

30 posted on 12/14/2012 8:03:18 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: smoothsailing
The mass killings have happened in states with strict gun laws and Conn. is one of those. States with reasonable gun laws and concealed carry have not had mass killings. I WONDER WHY?
31 posted on 12/14/2012 8:04:39 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Galt is freedom.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Folks that support the 2nd Amendment need to get out in front of the sure to come calls for legislation.

You cant arm 5 year olds...so the argument that more guns will make society safer will be seen as idiotic by the majority of Americans...

If we cant afford the government now we certainly cant afford putting armed guards in every elementary school in the country..

In the USA, after today, the idea that universal access to firearms is acceptable is dead.

Folks who support the 2nd Amendment need to come up with solid proposals to keep guns out of the hands of the crazies. If we don't do that, the rest of the country is going to figure out ways to keep guns out of every ones hands...

32 posted on 12/14/2012 8:04:39 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Does the NRA use the argument that the Democrat Nazis will take away guns from Hunters?

Are “Hunters” a protected class nowadays?

I’m not a Hunter, but I own a whole bunch of stuff that a Hunter would own. I guess I’m not part of the Club Nadler is referring to.

Good thing for Nadler that we don’t hunt Hippos in this Country. He might be mistaken for one by one of those NRA loving Hunters in Upstate New York.


33 posted on 12/14/2012 8:04:51 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (They Live, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses...)
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To: Sooth2222

We all need to urge Obama to call Ben and Jerry’s enablers of Nadler being a lardass.


34 posted on 12/14/2012 8:04:59 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's not about the guns. It's about the control.)
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To: Repeal 16-17
Thank goodness the Republicans control the House.

Don't bank on that saving us. The Republicans never have the guts to speak out and bring up their own issues, always playing defense.

If they ever wanted to actually engage instead of huddle in fear they should come out against the Dems for all the cash they've thrown at education without so much as a nod to school security. They pay for mountains of useless paperwork when the kid's safety should be their #1 priority. It's never an issue until a tragedy like this but this wasn't the first school shooting. And guns aren't the only threat.

35 posted on 12/14/2012 8:06:33 PM PST by Kenny (<p)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Ironic that we have the 2nd amendment as a check and balance to politicians like Nadler.


36 posted on 12/14/2012 8:07:18 PM PST by samadams2000
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To: antceecee

There’s a reason he’s called the Waddler. Were I to have less charitable feelings for our porcine friends I would call him a swine, but that would insult pigs.


37 posted on 12/14/2012 8:08:00 PM PST by allblues
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To: Tailgunner Joe
And politics aside, what new laws would actually solve or make a dent in the country's crazed-gunman problem?

Point 1: There is no such thing as putting "politics aside" with this group.

Point 2: There are two factors that make up the "crazed-gunman problem", the crazed person and the gun. Why is it so difficult to institutionalize the dangerously insane?

38 posted on 12/14/2012 8:08:44 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
True, it is a tragedy. But we need to wait until all evidence is in by the responsible people first. Don't let the news media dictate what may or may not happen. There are several US cities that have total gun bans but yet they're the highest in gun deaths. More people were shot in Chicago than the US suffered in all of Afghanistan last year, and Chicago has one of the most restrictive gun laws in the US. If you think total gun control works I think people are sadly mistaken. Look at those countries that have a total gun ban. Why are there still shootings? Doesn't Norway have restrictive gun control? But yet a deranged man managed to obtain an automatic weapon and murder 80 plus. I read from time to time that in the UK there is still gun violence. How have their gun laws worked for them? Or in Australia or in New Zealand. It's all well and good to call for more restrictive gun control but it simply doesn't work. In the US there are 60 million plus people with over a hundred million guns with billion of rounds of ammunition. How do you confiscate all that especially when states rights come into the picture. Each state has its own constitution that has gun rights written into it. At first, if it were possible for both houses of government to enact a prohibition against guns several things will happen. First, all those guns will go underground, buried. Secondly the value of those guns plus the ammunition will sky rocket. It will be a near impossibility to write any law banning guns.

Sorry for the rant but I'm totally p**ed at the MSM for politicizing it. I'm thinking and praying for those families. What they are going through tonight.

39 posted on 12/14/2012 8:08:44 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Truth29
The counter is that those who create gun free victim zones are the enablers of mass murder.

The Pearl (MS) High school shooting in 1997 was the first of the recent phenomenom of school shootings. I remember it well, because one of the students who was wounded is my cousin's boy. In this case, the shooter was stopped by Coach Joe Myrick, who kept his Model 1911 Colt .45 in the glove compartment of his pickup truck. He caught up with the shooter while he was reloading, and disarmed him.

Naturally, the MSM and the school powers-that-be learned the wrong lessons from this encounter. They decided that stronger security measures, metal detectors, and zero tolerance for any type of weapons was the right answer.

They were wrong.

I believe that if more members of the faculty had the opportunity to defend their campus as Coach Myrick did, the rash of school shootings would disappear.
40 posted on 12/14/2012 8:09:42 PM PST by grandpa jones (obama delenda est)
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