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28 Dead, Including 20 Children, After Shooting Rampage At Sandy Hook School In Newtown
http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-police-responding-to-incident-in-newtown-20121214,0,3969911.story ^ | 12/14/12

Posted on 12/14/2012 7:46:45 AM PST by marthemaria

Edited on 12/14/2012 9:12:15 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

State police are responding to a report of a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Dickinson Drive, school officials said.

Police are reporting a number of injured parties. The nature of their injuries is not clear.

There are unconfirmed reports of two shooters one dead, one still at large.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
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To: PghBaldy

anyone doubt Obama and the White House re giddy about this?


1,401 posted on 12/15/2012 7:22:23 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PapaBear3625

“This is in Connecticut”

Sad to me that we view states and their people almost exclusively through through a political lens. Once again, a bunch of Americans die at the hands of a nutcase inside a gun-free zone.

Every government school in America is a gun-free zone.

How often do mass shooting happen at private schools or homeschools?


1,402 posted on 12/16/2012 1:03:44 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SunkenCiv; TigerLikesRooster; gandalftb
This paper http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248782/Adam-Lanza-How-classmates-remember-genius-turned-heartless-killer.html gives a background on AL

Hovewer, it might as well be the case that he had a brain tumor like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman that had a tumor that pressed against the amygdala and caused his aggressive behavior.

1,403 posted on 12/16/2012 5:17:39 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: SecAmndmt
“This is in Connecticut” Sad to me that we view states and their people almost exclusively through through a political lens.

I posted that fact as information, because the article did not originally note what state the event occurred in, and there are LOTS of towns named "Newtown" all over the US.

1,404 posted on 12/16/2012 6:22:29 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PghBaldy

“Obama had his advance team there at 10:30am today. He must be giddy with all the carnage.”

Ghoulish is the best word I can think of. Like turkey vultures circling the dead waiting to feast.


1,405 posted on 12/16/2012 6:43:44 AM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: Darksheare

Why? You want, you ask them.


1,406 posted on 12/16/2012 7:19:31 AM PST by juno67
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To: Jedidah

Can’t argue with you about where we are as a society, but at the same time, I don’t believe in making it easy for a sicko to do great harm. We don’t sell RPG’s at the 7-11’s, nor do I think many people believe we should. There have to be some limits on the degree of dangerousness of weapons that we allow the general public to possess. That’s what I think the coming debate will be about.


1,407 posted on 12/16/2012 7:24:42 AM PST by juno67
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To: juno67

“So would you sell a fully automatic rifle to someone listed as a suspected terrorist by the FBI and CIA?”

You’re the one using the straw man.
Here, hold this match.
National Firearms Act of 1934.
You should read up on it.
It’s been illegal to own “fully automatic” since then.
And the attack didn’t use “fully automatic”.

” I don’t believe in making it easy for a sicko to do great harm.”

You are advocating gun bans?


1,408 posted on 12/16/2012 10:28:49 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: juno67; sionnsar; abigailsmybaby; A CA Guy; airborne; Allegra; Aloysius88; Altariel; ...

“I don’t believe in making it easy for a sicko to do great harm. “-Juno67
“There have to be some limits on the degree of dangerousness of weapons that we allow the general public to possess.” -Juno67

We have a gun grabber here!
Juno, your level of stupid should hurt, and be self-lethal.

Connecticut law doesn’t allow 20 year old Adam Lanza to possess or own said firearms he was carting around.
The school is a gun free zone.
What more restrictions do you want?
None of the weapons he had were full auto.
Full auto has been illegal since 1934.
Your strawmen don’t hold up.


1,409 posted on 12/16/2012 10:38:38 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Darksheare; juno67

Most of the whackos who go shoot up schools are certifiable. They need to be in institutions instead of “given medications” and turned loose on society. The fact that the guns used by the murderers in these public massacres are illegal has gone right past the gun banners.

All of these people were underage, had illegal weapons, carried a grudge, were clinically insane, or all of the above.

juno, go whine somewhere else.


1,410 posted on 12/16/2012 10:46:01 AM PST by Monkey Face (Remember the Reason for the Season!)
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To: juno67

>>There have to be some limits on the degree of dangerousness of weapons that we allow the general public to possess. <<

There are already many, idiot. Check your facts before blathering off.

Had ONE administrator or teacher at that school been armed dozens of people would be alive today.

I would make one exception to gun laws: I would not trust anyone as dumb as YOU to have anything more powerful than a rubber band (and even then it would be the small kind, not the larger more dangerous kind).


1,411 posted on 12/16/2012 10:46:51 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: Monkey Face; juno67

Adam Lanza had mental problems according to reports.
Also, the guy in China who slashed 22 children to death didn’t use a gun, he used a knife.
Does juno advocate restricting knives too?

A gun free zone makes it exceedingly easy for sickos to ply their trade at schools while disarming the potential victims.


1,412 posted on 12/16/2012 10:48:17 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Darksheare

Liberals. “pagh!”


1,413 posted on 12/16/2012 10:51:14 AM PST by Monkey Face (Remember the Reason for the Season!)
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To: Monkey Face

I will pour urine on their eternal reposes if I ever get the chance.


1,414 posted on 12/16/2012 10:52:04 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: juno67

“So would you sell a fully automatic rifle to someone listed as a suspected terrorist by the FBI and CIA?”

I’ve never seen a full auto weapon for sale at any gun shop or gun show I’ve been to.

Where would you suggest a person go buy one?


1,415 posted on 12/16/2012 10:52:33 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Darksheare

I’d set the cows out to graze on that and leave behind a cow pie or two.


1,416 posted on 12/16/2012 10:54:43 AM PST by Monkey Face (Remember the Reason for the Season!)
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To: Monkey Face

Plow it over and grow nightshade on the plot afterwards.


1,417 posted on 12/16/2012 10:55:34 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: juno67
Your thoughts fit right in with these folks:

"Those who would trade security for liberty deserve neither." BF

1,418 posted on 12/16/2012 10:57:47 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: juno67
There have to be some limits on the degree of dangerousness of weapons that we allow the general public to possess.

zot

1,419 posted on 12/16/2012 10:58:23 AM PST by xone
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To: Rebelbase; juno67

I hosed up the quote:

”He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.”


1,420 posted on 12/16/2012 10:59:52 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase; juno67

Don’t worry about it, he can’t understand guns, gun ownership, the Bill of Rights, what any of it means, or what it is for.


1,421 posted on 12/16/2012 11:02:01 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: juno67
There have to be some limits on the degree of dangerousness of weapons that we allow the general public to possess.

Yes. Roughly on par with a Marine squad.

1,422 posted on 12/16/2012 11:02:16 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Darksheare

I hope he paid the $200 transfer tax on the silencer his keyboard is apparently equipped with. ;)


1,423 posted on 12/16/2012 11:03:30 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: juno67
There have to be some limits on the degree of dangerousness of weapons that we allow the general public to possess.

Ah, yes, the ol' "say-fer guns and say-fer bullets" meme. Heard it years ago from another mental giant, wasn't impressed then, either.

1,424 posted on 12/16/2012 11:05:48 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; juno67

Yeah, and renewed his free speech license.
And his trial by jury license.
Or his peaceable assembly license.
[Juno, you getting how ridiculous our position is yet?]


1,425 posted on 12/16/2012 11:06:33 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; juno67

our=your.
Autocowrecked.


1,426 posted on 12/16/2012 11:08:05 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Darksheare

Who are you talking about, Piers Morgan?


1,427 posted on 12/16/2012 11:17:31 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: juno67; Darksheare

IBTZ


1,428 posted on 12/16/2012 11:24:42 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Jedidah

I have a good friend who has a older brother that is mentally ill and he lives on the street. He’s not at all a violent character though he is self destructive and he makes a mild nuisance of himself. He won’t voluntarily adhere to any treatment and as he’s never posed a threat he has never been committed for any length of time. The mother is an enabler, to this day the brother (late 40’s) will show up for a meal or to get warm. The father became a hyper authoritarian and my friend grew up under that father. (My friend never had a good relationship with his father, in large part because of the problems with his brother.). The father recently died and the mother is aging. It’s all very sad. My friend is not known for his patients though he is a great guy. He has almost no patients in dealing with his brother -far be it from me to judge that.


1,429 posted on 12/16/2012 11:27:07 AM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: juno67

We used to take our firearms to school so we could go hunting after classes let out...where were all the school shootings back then? Lockers with rifles never struck me as ‘odd’...


1,430 posted on 12/16/2012 11:34:47 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Rebelbase; juno67

He does sound like a press weinie, doesn’t he.
He does have quite the agenda.
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:juno67/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change


1,431 posted on 12/16/2012 11:38:56 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: juno67
listen stooopid, we have MORE than enough laws... he murdered his mother and took hers, or haven't you been reading the news???
1,432 posted on 12/16/2012 11:39:06 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Darksheare; juno67

“We have a gun grabber here!”

Great idea, eh? Grab guns from law abiding citizens so that only sicko people have them. That worked really well for the Sandy Hook School.


1,433 posted on 12/16/2012 12:06:06 PM PST by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: fanfan; juno67

Yeah!
And everywhere they banned guns, violent crime exploded out of control.

If criminals know their targets are unarmed, they are emboldened.
If they have doubts about whether or not their target will defend themself, they are less likely to commit the crime.
If they know for a fact that defense is assured, they avoid that place as it is too hard for them to ‘crack’ as it is harder to get at victims.

Blindingly simple.
Ask Israel and Switzerland.


1,434 posted on 12/16/2012 12:10:37 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: juno67
"There have to be some limits on the degree of dangerousness of weapons that we allow the general public to possess. That’s what I think ......"

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1,435 posted on 12/16/2012 12:25:11 PM PST by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Darksheare; juno67; TheOldLady
Thanks for the Ping.

"We have had a gun grabber here!"

1,436 posted on 12/16/2012 12:49:15 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome ("Obama": His entire life is Photoshopped.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

“Had”

Hmm.. so I see.


1,437 posted on 12/16/2012 12:50:37 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: juno67
Do you own ,or have you ever owned, a Canary?
1,438 posted on 12/16/2012 3:02:33 PM PST by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: Darksheare

Security at schools need to be armed.

Many of these young men before the hormones drive them more mad need some form of castration or permanent block regarding the testosterone that eventually takes their crazy to the next level IMO.

You wouldn’t want these types breeding anyway.


1,439 posted on 12/16/2012 3:10:56 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

That boy in Connecticut didn’t appear to me to have much in the way of “excess testosterone”.


1,440 posted on 12/16/2012 3:15:52 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: juno67; 50mm; darkwing104; Arrowhead1952; Darksheare; TheOldLady; Lady Jag; Chode; shibumi; ...

THE BURNING STRAWMAN LIGHTS THE NIGHT,
AS DOES THY FLAMING CARCASS! AWAY WITH THEE!!

1,441 posted on 12/16/2012 4:27:30 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: juno67; 230FMJ; 50mm; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; AliVeritas; Allegra; ...
There have to be some limits on the degree of dangerousness of weapons that we allow the general public to possess.

What's dangerous is the large number of libtards who want to exploit a tragedy to trash the Second Amendment. ZOT.


1,442 posted on 12/16/2012 4:47:50 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: Old Sarge

That one’s posting history is interesting.

Thanks for the ping, Sarge


1,443 posted on 12/16/2012 5:09:22 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: juno67

iatz ... bye!


1,444 posted on 12/16/2012 5:34:30 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: 50mm

What about banning dangerous weapons like knives, as in the UK?


1,445 posted on 12/16/2012 5:50:54 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Darksheare

There is no earthly reason for depriving any of us of the means for self defense. If Juno67 wishes to be defenseless in the face of threats, so be it, good luck to his/her family, and I wouldn’t want this clown to be at my back in a firefight.
You are correct, Darks. You can’t fix stupid.


1,446 posted on 12/16/2012 6:16:59 PM PST by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: juno67
Can’t argue with you about where we are as a society, but at the same time, I don’t believe in making it easy for a sicko to do great harm. We don’t sell RPG’s at the 7-11’s, nor do I think many people believe we should. There have to be some limits on the degree of dangerousness of weapons that we allow the general public to possess. That’s what I think the coming debate will be about.

For centuries children had easy access to loaded firearms which hung openly above the front door and there were NEVER situations like this.

The problem isn't the guns, it's the moral breakdown of society and the violations of our second amendment rights that result in a disarmed society which cannot protect itself.

If someone had been packing, they could have taken out this guy before the slaughter he committed. While it is true that someone still may have died, as the element of surprise was in his favor, anyone with their wits about them, well trained, and packing, could have taken him out.

1,447 posted on 12/16/2012 6:30:37 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: juno67; Flotsam_Jetsome; Old Sarge; 50mm; humblegunner; darkwing104; Arrowhead1952; LUV W; Eaker; ..

So long, juno67 (Posting History)
Hat Tip to Flotsam_Jetsome, Old Sarge, and 50mm
Gun grabber who did not understand, "shall not be infringed" rides outa here dripping guts and ashes



Don't even think about taking our guns, you oddball



FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

1,448 posted on 12/16/2012 6:47:33 PM PST by TheOldLady
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To: Old Sarge

I see that Ursula and your rapier pen are in fine fettle this evening, Sarge!


1,449 posted on 12/16/2012 6:56:14 PM PST by TheOldLady
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To: 50mm

Feisty Viking Kitty you have there, 50mm. It’s nice to see you.


1,450 posted on 12/16/2012 6:58:19 PM PST by TheOldLady
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