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CBO: Current Law Brings 55% Increase in Annual Spending, $4.25T in New Debt--And Record Taxation
CNSNews.com ^ | December 5, 2012 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 12/05/2012 3:44:24 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike

If Congress allows current laws signed by President Barack Obama to stand and follows the fiscal path they have set for the next decade, federal tax revenues will rise to a record level as a percentage GDP, according to the Congressional Budget Office, but annual federal spending will also increase by 55 percent and continuous deficits will require Congress to lift the federal debt limit by another $4.25 trillion even as the government rakes in unprecedented tax revenue.

Under the so-called "fiscal cliff" scenario, in which all of the Bush tax cuts are allowed to expire and “sequestration” of some anticipated federal spending takes place, the federal government still will not balance its budget.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fiscalcliff; uscrisis; usdebt

1 posted on 12/05/2012 3:44:29 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Only if people have taxable income to tax.


2 posted on 12/05/2012 3:48:38 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Let the Dems destroy the economy!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I think most intelligent America are getting tired of this BS. Same talk over and over with nothing of substance therefore no changes and we are toast.


3 posted on 12/05/2012 3:53:13 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Logical me

Problem is the sore lack of intelligent Americans.


4 posted on 12/05/2012 4:10:34 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (If bad plastic surgeons were banned, then Bob Costas' normal face would still be alive.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

The +20% of GDP tax revenue will only be temporary. The historical average of tax revenue in the US is aprox. 17.5% of GDP irregardless of rates. What the article and the CBO fail to account for is changing economic behavior of taxpayers. It’s called ‘Tax Avoidance’. Working less, spending less, and/or something called the ‘black market’. Earners will do whatever they have to keep as much as they can. It’s historical...


5 posted on 12/05/2012 4:30:23 PM PST by yadent
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I say give in to Obama’s ludicrous offer. If we are going down the tubes, better that we get to it quickly. Give him what he wants, voice our reservations and let him own it outright. Then he will have no one to blame for the catastrophe, and maybe, just maybe, socialism (or ‘progressivism’) will be discredited for a few generations. Unfortunately, the damage will be so great, that it will take forty years to recover, but the economic Apocalypse is coming either way. Going over the cliff at 45 mph, frankly, is not better than going over at 90 mph.


6 posted on 12/05/2012 4:34:18 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I say give in to Obama’s ludicrous offer. If we are going down the tubes, better that we get to it quickly. Give him what he wants, voice our reservations and let him own it outright. Then he will have no one to blame for the catastrophe, and maybe, just maybe, socialism (or ‘progressivism’) will be discredited for a few generations. Unfortunately, the damage will be so great, that it will take forty years to recover, but the economic Apocalypse is coming either way. Going over the cliff at 45 mph, frankly, is not better than going over at 90 mph.


7 posted on 12/05/2012 4:34:24 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Hotlanta Mike
If Congress allows current laws signed by President Barack Obama to stand and follows the fiscal path they have set for the next decade, federal tax revenues will rise to a record level as a percentage GDP.

Not for long.

Hauser's law is based on the observation that, no matter how high or how low the tax rate, feral government revenue averages 19.5% of GDP.

Income tax revenue comes from income. If you want less of something, tax it.

9 posted on 12/05/2012 4:51:22 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to slaughter anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: yadent

It is my sworn duty to uphold the law....Hauser’s Law, that is!


10 posted on 12/05/2012 5:41:50 PM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

“...rakes in unprecedented tax revenue”

Who they kidding!!!?

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2012/10/26/One-Million-Jobs-Already-Lost-Due-to-Fiscal-Cliff.aspx#page1

Seriously. no jobs means no industry ...no business..?

Friggin’ loons!!!


11 posted on 12/05/2012 5:45:26 PM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: yadent

One cannot abstract from state and local tax revenue.

The years 2000 and 2007 recorded the highest total government revenue divided by GDP at about 37%. 2001 and 2008 were both recession years which caused a substantial drop in government revenues.

http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/revenue_brief.php

It’s interesting that the two high years, one under the Clinton tax rates, and the other under the bush tax rates yielded almost identical revenue.


12 posted on 12/05/2012 6:07:09 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: Hotlanta Mike
At some point businesses say "the hell with it!" and shut down. Where are these mental midgets going to get their revenue then? If I had a small business and wanted to add employees, I would hang up a sign the says:

Apply within, subject to limitation of 49 employees maximum and less than 30 hours/week/employee with no benefits as stipulated by President Obama and his crooks in the White House. People who voted for this mental midget need not apply.

13 posted on 12/05/2012 7:45:42 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: OrioleFan

They ain’t seen nothin’ yet...CA will be Detroit on the Pacific within a couple of decades


14 posted on 12/05/2012 9:27:58 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (Us and Them...)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

“...revenues will rise to a record level as a percentage of GDP.”

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

I had to look at the “debtclock” to see some real numbers. Like I told my daughter last night this “fiscal cliff” negotiation is talking about hundreds of billions of dollars.

But I compared it to jumping off the edge of a stack of a few magazines I had on the table. Then pointed to the numbers of:

$16.3 Trillion Debt and growing at 1+ trillion a year.
$4 Trillion owned in interest on the debt.
$15.5 trillion GDP (the entire sum of what the U.S. makes, builds, grows, mines, etc. in a year)

And revenues (current) of $2.5 Trillion a year. Heck, lets make it $3.5 trillion a year to give Obama what he wants. Still doesn’t cover even the interest on the debt! Much less running the government).

After I pointed all of that out, I compared the 3 inches of magazines to the height of the kitchen table. THAT is the real problem, and will make this “fiscal cliff” look like a “bump in the road” as Obama would say.


15 posted on 12/05/2012 10:38:18 PM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: Mygirlsmom

“Problem is the sore lack of intelligent Americans.”

My daughter had to prep for this “fiscal cliff” talk in her government class (ninth grade). The other kids just didn’t understand it AT ALL and she was getting frustrated as she tried to explain it to them in their “round table” discussion.

The teacher in giving the lesson started explain it and talking about income tax, etc. After about the third mention of the term “income tax” one of the kids said “What is an income tax?”

Most of the other kids chimed in “Yeah - what is that?”

My daughter had this look of shock, eyes wide, jaw dropped, frozen like a deer in the headlights. The teacher looked over at her, shook her head snickered, and then explained what “income tax” is to these kids (3 years away from being able to vote!).


16 posted on 12/05/2012 10:47:39 PM PST by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Bump


17 posted on 12/06/2012 10:41:42 AM PST by MercedesB (no comment)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
The Democrats have returned to the party of tax and spend. Only this time they have dragged a majority of the population into ther net (Never let a crisis go to waste).

Also note that they are training Boner and the rest of the Republicans for their role (ala Bob Dole) as tax collectors for the welfare state.

18 posted on 12/06/2012 10:57:04 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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