Posted on 12/05/2012 9:32:33 AM PST by Qbert
Taxes on the wealthy are going up, House Speaker John Boehner conceded on Wednesday in challenging President Barack Obama to sit down with him to hammer out a deal for avoiding the fiscal cliff.
The statement to reporters reflected how negotiations on reducing the nation's chronic federal deficits and debt have evolved since Obama's re-election last month.
Republicans once opposed to any new revenue in their quest to shrink government now realize Obama's victory and public support for the president's campaign theme of higher taxes on the wealthy leave them with little negotiating leverage.
Less than four weeks from the automatic tax increases and spending cuts of the fiscal cliff, GOP leaders face a choice: Agree to Obama's demand to hold down tax rates on most Americans while allowing higher rates on the wealthiest 2 percent, or be blamed for everyone's taxes going up in 2013.
The major unresolved question of negotiations involving the White House and congressional leaders is whether eliminating tax deductions and loopholes -- as proposed by House Republicans -- can raise enough revenue without hitting middle class Americans too hard.
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Boehner’s really coming out of the closet, isn’t he.
What a joke.
The joke’s on us...
Folded like a cheap suit. Empty too. as expected.
Boehner and McConnell have been in cahoots all along.
Boehner tou spineless little whimp, just adjourn the House and tell the Media you sent a Budget to Harry Reid already. Force the Senate to act accordingly.
No, the major unresolved questions has nothing to do with taxes. It involves spending cuts!!
Ed Morrissey at Hotair had this item, which indicates a few Republicans are ready to to the only honroable thing: vote only to extend the Bush Tax Rates, and nothng else. It makes the most sense..and forces Obama to have a huge fight with the debt celiing next year:
"Boehner’s really coming out of the closet, isn’t he."
Obama and the leftists must be laughing their tails off at how easy it is to get Boehnhead and his people to capitulate on everything.
I’m very curious as to what comment #2 was...
expecting the market to dump in 5..4..3..2..
As the article states, the Administration has said that the House should go ahead and pass the Senate’s proposal, and then AFTER THAT, they will consider reducing spending.
Oh please, please, please tell me that Boehner is not considering that, too.
The Dems would get what they wanted in tax hikes on the so-called “rich,” and then go home for Christmas break (with the spending cuts never to be heard about again).
“&^% very much, B#ner.”
No. But it's much easier to go along to get along, especially when you don't give a hoot in hell about principle and instead want to hold on to your phoney-baloney job at all costs. This is why political parties die.
Tie an extension of the Bush rates to the AMT patch. If Zero doesn’t sign the patch he will be raising taxes on 28 million Americans this year (2012).
What a joke!!! If Boehner thinks the middle class is so stupid they don’t know their taxes are going up he’s insane. Everybody’s taxes are going up.
If you don’t believe it sit down with your 2011 tax return and take out all your deductions especially your mortgage deduction and your property tax deduction and then see how much more you would have paid.
The GOP would be better off to go over this stupid fake fiscal cliff and let Barry take the heat for it for a few months and then sit down to the bargaining table.
If you don’t like that idea then at least they should press ahead with the doomsday idea of just bringing the middle class tax cut extension up for a vote and let the Dems pass it with all the Pubbies voting present.
But never fear they won’t do any of the above. Look for Boehner to agree to pretty much whatever Obama wants. He’s the guy that thinks if he does what’s asked they will come for him last.
soetoro praises allah
WTF is up with you Rush?!?! Why don't you take the lead of your friend Mark Levin and go for Boner's jugular!
F-ing sad.
Honestly, I can’t think of one good reason why I remain a registered Republican.
They don’t run decent people in my state. They don’t run decent people at the top.
I’d be a lot better off registering in another party, and join with other former Republicans who had done the same thing, to vote against the worst of the worst Democrats.
Perhaps the lot of us could pressure that party to move back toward the center. We sure as hell can’t get our own party to.
Bohener “challenges” Obama to come to the table and tell him what to do.
So Zero can blame the GOP when it fails to raise revenue. We are doomed.
The “rich” already DO pay more taxes. A LOT more, in fact.
This rhetorical tool to paint a pretty face on the family mutt is pure, unadulterated bull sh*t straight out of the pages of Das Kapital.
Marxism has always been the favored poison of the American masses, as long as it’s tafted up with phrases like “fair share” and other such Leftist catch phrases.
Meanwhile, congress eats up the public weal like a hog at the trough, and NO ONE, EVER mentions cutting expenses or clearing away the sort of red tape regulation that keeps business from generating income.
It’s a power game, and government holds all the aces.
"As the article states, the Administration has said that the House should go ahead and pass the Senate’s proposal, and then AFTER THAT, they will consider reducing spending. Oh please, please, please tell me that Boehner is not considering that, too. The Dems would get what they wanted in tax hikes on the so-called “rich,” and then go home for Christmas break (with the spending cuts never to be heard about again).
Yep. You can just see where that would go: Obama would urge House Republicans next year to pass their own bill of spending and Medicare cuts, etc.... and then Harry Reid would back out of his side of the deal, and prevent the bill from ever being voted on in the Senate. And then Dems would use the GOP's "austerity" bill to run endless ads against them in the midterms...
,,,,, in other words Mr. Bonerhead ,,, the rich will pass their tax increase along to the middle class as has been the case every time they have had a tax increase . As Leona Helmsley once said “ rich people don’t pay taxes “ .
This is no secret to anyone on congress .
Spineless GOP-E creep.
These negotiations are all boob bait for bubba. The GOPe wants to raise taxes, they buy their votes just like the left does.
Caught Levin a bit last night - he was eviscerating Bonehead.
The rinos have won the republican party let them have it and destroy themselves!
I'm with you, and John Boehner is my Congressman. I'm done with the Republican party. And when I say done, I mean done.
‘Two wings of the same bird of prey...’
IMO, voting to extend the tax cuts for everyone but those over $250K is the worst thing the pubs can do. I say this realizing full well it means I will pay more taxes.
Instead, I’d let the all the tax cuts expire so everyone has skin in the game and I’d hang the SOB out in the breeze on the debt ceiling. Obama will give. He can’t afford to shut off the freebies
The truth is that the repugnant leadership wants higher taxes and bigger government... and I am tired of voting for and supporting progressives in the progressive republican party.
LLS
what is the point to voting ‘present’ rather than ‘aye’?
They will have their @$$es handed to them in 14' none of my time or money for sure....
We cannot allow these a-holes to fool us into believing they're just shmucks being gamed any longer. They are complicit.
More layoffs, less jobs, more welfare recipients for food stamps and free Obamaphones. And they’ll vote Democratic even tho Obama’s policies took away their jobs. Because he gives them free Obamaphones and all the rest so they think he “cares” about them.
Heh-heh. Just wait and see what will constitute “rich” in a couple of years. LOL!
Exactly! And now we're treated to Rush acting confused and bewildered about the entire thing.
Hey Rush WTFU and call for Boner's head (figuratively of course). Man, there are some days, I'm really beginning to question Rush's desire to continue on in talk radio. He should be calling for Boehner’s removal as Speaker. Instead he's just lethargically meandering all over the place trying his best not to “attack” Boner.
I just don't understand Rush on this.
This is no suprise. Boner always gives barry what he wants, end of story. always has, always will.
I think Obama told him he would take him on vacation to Hawaii with him.
Rush is not a conservative... he is a republican..
So who’s gonna challenge Boehner for the Speaker’s post? Anyone? Anyone?
Until conservatives in the House are willing to oppose Boehner, at the risk of being purged from their committee assignments, then Boehner’s limp-wristed negotiating terms will be the Republican terms by default.
It’s past time for a coup d’etat, sending Boehner to the back benches (and an early tee time and happy hour).
I’ve been sold out for the very last time.
I’ve been registered as a Republican since I turned 18 in 1969.
Over the last 24 years, I’ve been waiting for the next Reagan. Instead we keep getting the next LBJ.
Okay fine. The party can go where-ever it wants. I don’t have to go there with it.
When the Republican party only has 5% of the registered voters in the U. S., perhaps they’ll wake up. I seriously doubt it.
Golf buddies, maybe.
IMO, the Republicans should pass one bill that entends the Bush tax rates for everyone except for the top rate and make them PERMANENT and tie this bill to eliminating the AMT or raising it to inflation adjusted rates from the past 30 or 40 years.
Then pass a second bill that extends the Bush tax cut for the upper income taxpayers - let the Dems and 0bama shoot this bill down, so they own the tax raises.
Then threaten to shut down the government by not raising the debt celing if there are no spending cuts.
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