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7 things that scare your doctor with obamacare on the horizon
fox ^ | 12-5-12 | Dr. Sreedhar Potarazu

Posted on 12/05/2012 5:55:32 AM PST by TurboZamboni

Affordable Care Act is in full swing, there’s a lot of apprehension and perhaps, sometimes, enthusiasm about what is truly in store for the medical profession.

The last time you visited your doctor you may have noticed that he or she was more apprehensive, cautious, and yes, maybe more overwhelmed. The fact of the matter is that the health care profession is undergoing the most significant renovation to ever happened in the history of the United States.

Here are many things that keep many doctors awake at night:

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacare; socializedmedicine

1 posted on 12/05/2012 5:55:40 AM PST by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

Elections have consequences. Health-threatening ones.


2 posted on 12/05/2012 6:12:04 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: TurboZamboni

My cardiologist, in the biz for over 20 years, has quit on account of ObamaCare. He’s had enough of the stupid bureaucratic requirements. He wants to focus on his patient’s well-being, but can’t because of that crap. So, he quit.


3 posted on 12/05/2012 6:16:40 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: backwoods-engineer

My dad has two cardiolgists .... both said last year they would quit (retire early) due to Obamacare and I’m expecting it any day now.


4 posted on 12/05/2012 6:18:36 AM PST by MissMagnolia ("It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains" - Patrick Henry)
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To: TurboZamboni

The thing that should scare doctors the most is that they will be forced to come out of retirement and work at gunpoint. We should all have that fear, since it will not be rewarding to produce.


5 posted on 12/05/2012 6:26:07 AM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: crosshairs

Doctors should refuse to treat known liberals.


6 posted on 12/05/2012 6:48:28 AM PST by Joe Bfstplk
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To: TurboZamboni

Hmmm....Medicare and Medicaid fraud is big money for the Democrat voting bloc. I can’t see them cracking down.

So long as it costs more than $1 to see a doctor, we are safe from full waiting rooms. They’ll still use the “free” ER for everything. The free option will always be crowded.


7 posted on 12/05/2012 6:56:59 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: crosshairs

I will find a way out in the next 2 years. They cannot force me to work. Even at gunpoint


8 posted on 12/05/2012 7:01:26 AM PST by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: TurboZamboni

Doctors weigh in on Health Care Reform.

The Allergists voted to scratch it,
but the Dermatologists advised not to make any rash moves.

The Gastroenteritis had sort of a gut feeling about it
but the Neurologists thought the Administration had a lot of nerve.

The Obstetricians felt they were all laboring under a misconception.
Ophthalmologists considered the idea shortsighted.

Pathologists yelled, “Over my dead body!”
while the Pediatricians said, ‘Oh, Grow up!’

The Psychiatrists thought the whole idea was madness,
while the Radiologists could see right through it.
Surgeons decided to wash their hands of the whole thing.

The Internists thought it was a bitter pill to swallow,
and the Plastic Surgeons said, “This puts a whole new face on the matter.”

The Podiatrists thought it was a step forward,
but the Urologists were pissed off at the whole idea.

The Anesthesiologists thought the whole idea was a gas
and the Cardiologists didn’t have the heart to say no.

Chiropractors thought the whole plan was crooked.
In the end, the Proctologists won out, leaving the entire decision up to the aholes in Washington.


9 posted on 12/05/2012 7:13:50 AM PST by spankalib (The downside of liberty is the need to tolerate those who despise it.)
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To: TurboZamboni

My boss is quitting too.

Twenty million new patients. Hundreds of thousands fewer providers. What could possibly go wrong?


10 posted on 12/05/2012 7:15:08 AM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: ottbmare

Any day I expect to pick-up a matchbook cover that says “You Too Can Be a Doctor!”


11 posted on 12/05/2012 7:33:32 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: spankalib

Hillarious! Did you write that?


12 posted on 12/05/2012 7:37:56 AM PST by MNGal
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To: spankalib
The Podiatrists thought it was a step forward,

Not this Podiatrist. As soon as I'm able I'm getting out of Podiatry.

13 posted on 12/05/2012 7:39:06 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: TurboZamboni

Other things that scare doctors.

1) Only a fool of a doctor will now accept patients on Medicare or Medicaid. They are no longer worth it. As doctors leave the system, there will be no doctors willing to take on these patients.

2) Government controlled insurance is even less worth it. So many doctors will likely migrate to cash only, where they can offer medical care for half the cost, and make more profit at the same time.

3) This will mean that patients will be obligated to buy insurance they do not use. Or pay the penalty fine for not buying insurance, which may cost less. A tax with no benefit to them whatsoever.

4) The quality of care on the government system will go to hell. Which seems to be fine as far as the socialized medicine crowd are concerned. Equally crappy and dangerous health care for everybody is better, by their lights, then good health care for the vast majority.

5) The passport regime will probably become increasingly strict to prevent the sick from traveling to Mexico for better quality health care.


14 posted on 12/05/2012 7:46:08 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; MNGal

Doc,
I should’ve changed it...it CAN be changed with “a step BACK”...
no MN, I added a thing or two, but it was sent to me in ‘08 or thereabouts by a doc friend of mine.
Cheers!

Knowing the legendary wit of FR...this can be easily added to.
(The PT’s thought it was an exercise in futility,
& ER docs thought it would crash the whole system, etc...)
Have fun!


15 posted on 12/05/2012 7:54:30 AM PST by spankalib (The downside of liberty is the need to tolerate those who despise it.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Your No. 2 observation (doctors migrating to cash only) would be difficult I’d think, due to the “enforcement” aspect of Obamacare. I’d think Obama “agents” would “visit” any doctor “reported” for working on a cash basis. (I hope there are a few who will do that; but I think it’s probably doubtful.)


16 posted on 12/05/2012 7:56:05 AM PST by Twinkie (The WICKED walk on every side when EVIL men are exalted. Psalm 12:8)
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To: crosshairs

The true nationalization of health care will include government takeover of all hospitals and affiliated practices. Its the only way the government can ‘be fair’ and invoke salary caps on all doctors, nurses, etc. in order to control cost.

It WILL happen.

As a result, there will be a mass exodus of doctors, specialist and nurses. But Obama will fill that void with foreign born doctors and lessen education /skill requirements here in he US so more will have ‘equal opportunity’ to become health care providers.

Its truly the movie Idiocracy coming true before our eyes.


17 posted on 12/05/2012 7:57:06 AM PST by rintense
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To: crosshairs

The true nationalization of health care will include government takeover of all hospitals and affiliated practices. Its the only way the government can ‘be fair’ and invoke salary caps on all doctors, nurses, etc. in order to control cost.

It WILL happen.

As a result, there will be a mass exodus of doctors, specialist and nurses. But Obama will fill that void with foreign born doctors and lessen education /skill requirements here in he US so more will have ‘equal opportunity’ to become health care providers.

Its truly the movie Idiocracy coming true before our eyes.


18 posted on 12/05/2012 7:57:39 AM PST by rintense
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To: rintense

If the doctors don’t follow the company line they will lose their license to practice. There is nothing a doctor can do to fight that...other than to retire.


19 posted on 12/05/2012 8:05:52 AM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: crosshairs

Okay as a doc , there is no way they can force me to treat patients. None.
They could force to show up, make me see people, but believe me NO ONE would be able to actual make me evaluate and treat people. Anyone who saw me at that point would be a very unhappy patient.


20 posted on 12/05/2012 8:07:14 AM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: ogen hal

Yep.


21 posted on 12/05/2012 8:08:47 AM PST by rintense
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To: backwoods-engineer

I contacted Samaritan Ministries and told them that they were always my back up plan if Obamacare was passed and implemented. I asked them about rumors of doctor shortages. I was told that these doctors still have to work.

I took that to mean that perhaps they will work within private networks of Health Sharing organizations. I hope I’m right.


22 posted on 12/05/2012 8:11:48 AM PST by diamond6 (Pray........pray very hard!!)
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To: Kozak

I was talking to a couple of people yesterday and one said that he said his daughter had decided to be a vet instead of a doctor. He seemed disappointed.

I told him that it was the best decision she ever made in her life, unless she wanted to be working for the government in ten years.

They both looked at me like I was crazy.


23 posted on 12/05/2012 8:12:34 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: crosshairs

I bet Bob Costas won’t complain about that use of guns.


24 posted on 12/05/2012 8:14:15 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: ScottinVA

I’m out. Sold my practice in August. If I had waited until Jan 2013 the capital gains on the sale would have cost me tens of thousands more. I feel sorry for docs who may be too young or who have taken on too much debt to get out. My brother is in that situation. He is a very unhappy internist.


25 posted on 12/05/2012 8:23:19 AM PST by strongbow
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To: strongbow

I’m looking at overseas jobs. Good pay, less taxes. I just need a couple more years.


26 posted on 12/05/2012 8:34:22 AM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Twinkie

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=22431


27 posted on 12/05/2012 8:52:08 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: TurboZamboni

My doc’s primary group is expanding and just built a huge building with at least 50 new examining rooms. I would say that the practice is ready to hire more dr-extenders and take on the Obamacare medicine.

They are hopeful and excited about Obamacare.


28 posted on 12/05/2012 8:55:43 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist Totalitarian Fascism coming to a country like yours.)
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To: Chickensoup

He seems to be the exception. I’ve heard only negatives from my doctor and from friends doctors. I think the good ones are getting out, to be replaced by Third World docs who will be willing to work for less money under a government run system.


29 posted on 12/05/2012 9:03:24 AM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You’re not far wrong. More and more of primary care is being handled by nurse practitioners and physician assistants. Mind, these providers are often EXCELLENT, and the P.A.s have to take med school courses and pass rigorous exams. But they’re the primary care gatekeepers, and it becomes more difficult to simply go see a specialist if you need one; there are delays for appointments. This happens all the time in the UK, and it’s going to take place more and more frequently here.

I work for a physician now. When our patients ask, “Why don’t you like Obamacare? What do you think is going to be so awful?” she says grimly, “Our generation is simply not going to live as long as our parents did.”


30 posted on 12/05/2012 9:18:33 AM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Chickensoup

hopefully those are rooms for compliance officers, IRS agents,and other assorted bureacratic paper pushers


31 posted on 12/05/2012 10:10:39 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

Does anyone else recall the comment on another Obamacare thread in which the commenter said that his doctor told him that he (the doctor) would have to pay a penalty if he put a stent in anyone over sixty? I neglected to bookmark it.


32 posted on 12/05/2012 10:11:19 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: TurboZamboni

Oh the great things the SCOUS have given us.

/s


33 posted on 12/05/2012 10:15:33 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Equally crappy and dangerous health care for everybody is better, by their lights, then good health care for the vast majority.

Isn't that because Obamacare's biggest fans (in congress in particular) are exempt from having to be subjected to it? Demand that if anyone must participate, ALL must do so!

34 posted on 12/05/2012 10:21:14 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

Socialism doesn’t work that way. Even before it was called socialism, proto-socialists had as a strong belief in the idea that only 1 in 10 people could be “masters”, “the elite”, or other “leaders”, in something of a parody of the European noble classes. The other 9 in 10 were the “masses”, “proles”, “hoi polloi”, or even slaves.

A good example of this can be found in the writings of George Fitzhugh, “Cannibals All!, or Slaves Without Masters”. Not just an apologist for slavery, but so convinced that slavery was a social good, that 9 out of 10 persons should be slaves.

Yet his was a latter day reflection of such philosophers as Ralph Waldo Emerson, who believed that mankind should be reduced to widely separated rural villages, kept technologically backwards and denied history by itinerant “Orphic Poets” (masters), who would in effect rule over them and keep them from improving their lives, by lying to them about current events and history, even twisting the Bible to create false parables.

The religious faith and principles of socialism are such that even though most are terribly ignorant of philosophy, history, and socialism itself, they can recreate its major articles of faith, though never directly taught them.

Much of it is a parody of the Bible, by the way, but omitting God and putting “man” in God’s place.


35 posted on 12/05/2012 1:11:28 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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