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Depressing Curtain for Russian Naval Power: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov Fails Her Sea Trials
Jamestown Foundation Eurasia Daily Monitor ^ | 11/30/2012 | Jacob W. Kipp

Posted on 11/30/2012 10:55:25 PM PST by bruinbirdman

After a year of encouraging progress in the refitting of a late Soviet–era carrier, which Russia plans to sell to India, the vessel’s latest sea trials in September 2012 ended in failure and disappointment. The discouraging results point to substantial structural problems in Russia’s domestic naval defense industry and undermine the country’s reputation as a dependable arms supplier.

The Kiev-class heavy aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov, completed in the late 1980s, has been what sailors call an “unlucky ship.” In 1992, she went into the dock yards at Murmansk for work on her steam pipes. But in those tight financial times the work was not done and in February 1994 an explosion in the same steam pipes resulted in six dead and many others injured (Krasnaya Zvezda, February 3, 5, 1994). Thereafter the ship spent another year in the dock yard and only re-entered active service in 1995 before again being withdrawn the following year.

In early 2004, Russia agreed to donate the Admiral Gorshkov to India for free, but initially asked for $800 million for the upgrade and refit of the ship, as well as an additional $1 billion for the aircraft and weapons systems. The Indians wanted to refit the Admiral Gorshkov as a “short take-off but arrested recovery” (STOBAR) ship by adding a ski-jump bow and arresting gear for aircraft recovery. In this new configuration and major refit, the carrier was supposed to join the Indian Navy as INS Vikramaditya. Like many deals with Russian defense contractors, Sevmash, the Yard in Murmansk undertaking the ship’s conversion, began to speak of cost overruns in 2008. If India did not accept the increased costs, the Russians said that the Russian defense ministry would buy the carrier back and finish it itself. After hard negotiations, the two sides agreed to a price of $2.35 billion in March 2010 during then Prime Minister Vladimir Putin’s visit to India. As work progressed, Sevmash announced that the vessel’s conversion would be completed at its yards by 2012. Given that all Soviet heavy aircraft carriers like the Admiral Gorshkov had been built at Nikolaev in the Ukraine, the task before Sevmash was a major one. Reports on progress in the last year had been positive, and in July the Russian press reported the first successful landing of a MiG-29 KUB aircraft on the deck of the Vikramaditya. At the end of the month the carrier took part in the display of warships at Murmansk on Russian Navy Day. As one source from the Russian Ministry of Defense declared: “The landing executed by the MiG on the Vikramaditya is a good answer to those skeptics who declared that Russia would not be able to fulfill this order from India. Yes, our country not only learned to build aircraft carriers but we already have our own unique approach in this area” (Oleg Roiskii, “Indiiskii avianosets vstaet v stroi,” Rossiiskie Vesti, July 30, 2012, p. 2)

Preparations then went forward for the official sea trials of the carrier, which were executed in September 2012. The Russian press was full of depressing results. During those trials there was a major failure of the ship’s propulsion system with seven of its eight boilers going off line. Initial reports from those close to the Sevmash shipyard put the delay in the final completion of the carrier back to October 2012. The failure came when the captain ordered the vessel up to a full speed of 30 knots and the warning system announced problems in the steam turbine propulsion system, causing the cruiser to come to a stop. The problem with the boilers arose because India had asked the Russians to replace their regular asbestos heat shield on the ship’s boilers because of the risk of poisoning to the crew. Sevmash had created a construction bureau for boiler installation that chose special fire bricks to replace the asbestos. After the failure, the inspectors discovered that the fire bricks had broken down under the high temperatures around the boilers. The question of damage to the boilers themselves from overheating would not be clear until the ship was towed back to Severodvinsk for inspection (Kommersant, September 17).

Sources from Rosoboroneksport, which oversees Russian arms sales abroad, reported that the earliest date for the transfer of the carrier to the Indian Navy was now October 2013, a full year later than planned (Difens Ekspress: Ezhenedel'naia Lenta Novostei, September 17). The failure of the sea trials and the damage done to the ship’s boilers delayed India's receipt of the warship and further increased the costs of the project. The repair of the boilers was estimated to cost one billion rubles ($32 million) and would represent an additional financial cost that Sevmash would have to absorb. No one at this time was sure whether India would impose a cash penalty for the further delay in delivery.

President Putin responded to the crisis by ordering a handling of the problem at the inter-agency level. Vladimir Shcherbakov, a Russian defense industry expert, pointed out that replacement boilers would have to be built by the original contractor, the Baltic Works in St. Petersbrug, and that this would not be a simple matter. Shcherbakov, however, expected the Indians to remain interested in the completion of the vessel since the Indian Navy desperately needed a replacement for its retired carrier, INS Vikrant, built by Great Britain during World War II, but completed in the 1950s after its sale to New Delhi (Izvestiia, September 17). Recently, the Indians have announced the construction of a new class of indigenous aircraft carriers at the Cochin Ship Yards, but this project will involve many years of work. Indian defense officials are used to delays in the development of domestic weapons systems, but the delay with the Vikramaditya has been termed “galling and inexcusable” (India Today, September 19). The Russian Navy for its part washed its hands of the affair saying that the vessel had already been sold to India (Komsomolskaya Pravda, September 18).


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1 posted on 11/30/2012 10:55:44 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Interesting... A ship, named for a “He” is referred to as a “She.”


2 posted on 11/30/2012 11:24:29 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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Aren’t ships always “She” ?


3 posted on 11/30/2012 11:32:23 PM PST by MetaThought
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Ships are “she” in most Western-sourced navies (like India), but are “he” in the Russian navy.

And this failure is all because Russia has apparently never heard of stone felt. As bad as Indians are at things like large-scale project planning, at this point I’d have to imagine that even an Indian shipyard could have done this better than the Russians are.


4 posted on 12/01/2012 12:40:34 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Also, the [Admiral] Nimitz is a “she” too, among others.


5 posted on 12/01/2012 12:43:02 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: bruinbirdman
Given that all Soviet heavy aircraft carriers like the Admiral Gorshkov had been built at Nikolaev in the Ukraine, the task before Sevmash was a major one.

The problem with the boilers arose because India had asked the Russians to replace their regular asbestos heat shield on the ship’s boilers because of the risk of poisoning to the crew.

The two causes for the failure are attributable to the inability of a society to quickly return to competence after the imposition, and inevitable collapse, of Communism/socialism.

Communism destroyed the industrial prowess of Russia, thus substandard facilities, but a simple "Nyet" on India's demand for socialist correct, physically unsound technology, would have saved the effort.

It's a long road back from Communism, maybe longer than any can travel.

6 posted on 12/01/2012 2:18:21 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: MetaThought

I know ships are “she,” but it’s strange reading it... “Admiral Sergei fails in her sea trials.” Sort of like a boy named Sue...


7 posted on 12/01/2012 2:50:05 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Russians refer to their ships in the male form.


8 posted on 12/01/2012 4:02:00 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: bruinbirdman

We should slip in and sell them the Enterprise.


9 posted on 12/01/2012 4:08:18 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Seems as though they should rename it “Potemkin”


10 posted on 12/01/2012 4:10:50 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: bruinbirdman
Asbestos is a miracle product when used correctly.

The problem with the boilers arose because India had asked the Russians to replace their regular asbestos heat shield on the ship’s boilers because of the risk of poisoning to the crew. Sevmash had created a construction bureau for boiler installation that chose special fire bricks to replace the asbestos. After the failure, the inspectors discovered that the fire bricks had broken down under the high temperatures around the boilers. The question of damage to the boilers themselves from overheating would not be clear until the ship was towed back to Severodvinsk for inspection (Kommersant, September 17).

11 posted on 12/01/2012 5:21:15 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Is the vessel diesel powered?


12 posted on 12/01/2012 5:37:23 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: bruinbirdman

Well. Finally some good news for a change.


13 posted on 12/01/2012 5:43:33 AM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: bert

Tough to run a boiler with a diesel.


14 posted on 12/01/2012 5:54:40 AM PST by j_tull
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To: bruinbirdman
In 1986 the Russian's had a record potato harvest, most of the "excess" rotted on barges near Moscow, because they could not make a cheap paperbox for dried potatotes. Their military was always able to make a few great products, but now they are going the way of paper boxes...too bad our CIA didn't figure it out before 1989 - Wall came down, or Iran builds a bomb. Someone cry HELP for what we spend on "intellegence."

Maybe we can figure out how to match our spending to the actual threats of our enemies. BTW - didn' t the Russians sell the Chinese an aircarft carrier, they would copy, and use for their navy? good luck with that.

15 posted on 12/01/2012 5:57:46 AM PST by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: j_tull

Ok....I get it. Bunker oil is burned to heat the boilers to generate the steam to turn the turbines.

What I should have asked is the shp nuclear powered?


16 posted on 12/01/2012 5:58:05 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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“The Kiev-class heavy aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov, completed in the late 1980s,”

Hmm...produced back in the days when they had splinters in their toilet paper, and from the same nation that placed a hammer beside the shifter to pound the tank into high gear... The Indians would have been better off to build their own....


17 posted on 12/01/2012 6:14:11 AM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Little Pig

“...Nimitz is a “she” too,...”

A very fine “she” too! Go Navy!


18 posted on 12/01/2012 6:15:57 AM PST by cameraeye (A happy kuffir!)
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To: Cvengr
"We should slip in and sell them the Enterprise."

Now that is a capitol idea. I wonder what the Indians would think of the ship and would Obama ever allow such a sale to a democratic country?

19 posted on 12/01/2012 6:18:54 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Little Pig
Ships are “she” in most Western-sourced navies (like India), but are “he” in the Russian navy.

So, this ship's a tranny.

20 posted on 12/01/2012 6:29:52 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (By doubting we come to inquiry, and through inquiry we perceive truth. -; Peter Abelard)
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