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Why Obama Care Is Still No Sure Thing
WSJ ^ | 11/19/2012 | Capretta and Levin

Posted on 11/18/2012 9:26:03 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety

Link only. Can't copy with my phone.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; medicare; obamacare; repeal
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To: nickcarraway
You are wrong.
I know many elected Republicans, personally, who oppose Obamacare.
Go spread your trash somewhere else, ok?
21 posted on 11/18/2012 10:21:55 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; null and void; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; ...

ping


22 posted on 11/18/2012 10:26:18 PM PST by bitt (The buck rolls downhill.)
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To: montanajoe

You do not know what you are talking about —

the MEDICAID mandates were STRUCK DOWN by the courts, by a 7-2 vote.

And, the “Federal Exchanges” are NOT funded, and do NOT have the same powers as any State Exchange, such as penalties on businesses.


23 posted on 11/18/2012 10:26:21 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; null and void; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; ...

ping


24 posted on 11/18/2012 10:27:06 PM PST by bitt (The buck rolls downhill.)
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To: Kansas58
Tell me in a year that I don't know what I am talking about...

You obviously have a vested interest in pushing this GOP line of BS I don't....

25 posted on 11/18/2012 10:31:38 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: max americana
Sir, what is a “fudgepacker?’
26 posted on 11/18/2012 10:32:14 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Kansas58
Name some?

If they are against it, why aren't they fighting it?

27 posted on 11/18/2012 10:34:50 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Excuse me, but go do some homework before you come here and blast away with your bs!

You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about, and you are making a fool of yourself and wasting the time of good conservatives.

READ the WSJ article for starters, it talks of the Republican Governors Conference, where there was STRONG opposition to Obamacare, and the WSJ article also mentions Democrat Governors who do not want to go along with all of the Obamacare provisions.

You are clueless, and you obviously have an agenda here to discourage those of us who DO know what we are talking about.

28 posted on 11/18/2012 10:38:11 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: montanajoe
You have an egotistical drive to push stupid 3rd Party ideas.

The only course for a RATIONAL conservative is to focus on winning Republican Primary elections and pushing our cause within the Republican Party.

Every political party will contain human beings, and there is no possible way you can create a “3rd Party” that will not have the same problems as the GOP, and you will accomplish nothing other than handing victory to Obama and the Liberals by splitting the vote.

29 posted on 11/18/2012 10:41:20 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
Hey pal I don't have an agenda..you do.

You need to consult an attorney that can explain both the reasoning and the vote count of the SC’s decision.

You can push your GOP rhetoric but luckily for the country fewer and fewer folks are buying it...

30 posted on 11/18/2012 10:48:32 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: Kansas58

My agenda is I am 100% against Obamacare. If you hate me because of that and want me to just accept Obama/Romneycare, I can live with you hating me. I am 100% against it, no matter what you tell me.


31 posted on 11/18/2012 10:52:07 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: montanajoe
Huh?
You do not have enough people to fill a bathroom at a Walmart on your side of this issue.
You are pretty much alone, and a crack pot.
You should be supporting Conservatives who are making a difference in this country, and instead you spend your time trying to depress and downgrade and attack any effort Republican Conservatives make, based on your own, stupid, selfish, silly, unrealistic and warped view of the world.
There is a long list of elected officials who are fighting hard for us, against Obamacare.

You are worse than the enemy, on this issue, you are a traitor giving aid and comfort to the enemy while you pretend to be on our side.

32 posted on 11/18/2012 10:53:55 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Sorry, I am not letting you push me into a 3rd party. You want everyone who is against Obamacare to be pushed out of the GOP and into a 3rd party. Well, I’ve got bad news for you. You are not going to get your wish. Every single elected Republican should be pressured to reject Obamacare every single day. If you think that hurts there poor wittle feelings, too bad. They were elected to represent the voters. I am sick of them acting like proud members of President Obama’s posse.


33 posted on 11/18/2012 10:57:36 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Kansas58

How come 5 of the governors who were allegedly against Obamacare, came out last week and announced they were acquiescing to Obamacare, including the governor of Florida. John Boener said after the election that the election was a total vindication for Obama, and he had to give in. That louse McConnell has always been for it.


34 posted on 11/18/2012 11:01:02 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Kansas58

There aren’t enough people against Obamacare to fill a bathroom? Maybe in your neighborhood, but I’d like to introduce you to a lot of people who are totally against it. You have the right to support Obamacare all you want, but we have a right to oppose it.


35 posted on 11/18/2012 11:05:37 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Kansas58
Huh?

I merely pointed out that if the States don't implement exchanges Obamacare mandates that thew Federal Government can set up the changes themselves. I also pointed out that IMO it was likely that many GOP Governors like Walker of WI would let the Feds implement their exchanges.

From those two observations your clearly inferior powers of deductive reasoning concluded I was pushing a 3rd party agenda....

I dont believe telling folks there is hope Obamacare wont be more or less totally implemented based on wishful thinking makes sense. It could be rolled back or repealed in the future if Conservatives were in control but I see no evidence the GOP is intent on becoming Conservative in the future

36 posted on 11/18/2012 11:07:43 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: FreedomNotSafety

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37 posted on 11/18/2012 11:19:34 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Army Air Corps

I’d rather live in Greece.


38 posted on 11/18/2012 11:25:47 PM PST by wastedyears (I don't want to live on this planet anymore.)
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To: bitt
One can get a little bewildered on this issue. So many different points of views at so many levels, eg. State participation, Federal bureaucracy that will be put in place
Just the opposing views held by some in this particular post.
I'm at the point at admitting what I believed to some extent on the Federal Affordable Health Care Act, I thought I had a good grasp for in some simple terms is vastly more complicated then I had earlier on envisioned.
So I will pass on any further comment.
Tis late. Your the last Freeper I will address, so bitt, do have a great upcoming day.
39 posted on 11/18/2012 11:32:22 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

If, only, Judge Roberts would change his mind, and change his vote on Obamacare, too!


40 posted on 11/18/2012 11:46:26 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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