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Some Hostess Workers Feel 'Relief' at Losing Jobs (just wait)
breitbart.com/Big-Government ^ | 11/18/2012 | Tony Lee

Posted on 11/18/2012 5:36:15 AM PST by RoosterRedux

Hostess employees in Nash County, North Carolina on Friday were relieved that they would lose their jobs because union workers would not agree to an 8-percent pay cut, which was approved by a bankruptcy judge, and end their strike, which crippled the company's factories across the United States.

Their reactions were surprising, because Nash County has an unemployment rate of 11.1 percent.

Lamont Phillips, an employee, said the company had been, “holding this over our head for a long time,” and he was relieved he did not “have to deal with that anymore.”

“They always hold that over our heads, that they’ll close it down,” he said. “So, I’m like, ‘OK. Close it down.’”

Phillips said his potential layoff was a "relief" and his "plan is to find another job."

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At times, it seems this belief in the Obama lie is the Biblical "Strong Delusion."
1 posted on 11/18/2012 5:36:20 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Well I hope he gets another job. You may have to move though. I think that most people who are unemployed for a long time are people who want to stay int the town they grew up in. Those days are over. Go to Texas or somewhere that is hiring. You will do fine as long as you are not selfish and demand to stay in your small town.


2 posted on 11/18/2012 5:40:03 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: RoosterRedux

Holy crap! This isn’t even Semi-Semi News!


3 posted on 11/18/2012 5:41:21 AM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: RoosterRedux

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Lamont Phillips, an employee, said the company had been, “holding this over our head for a long time,”
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What he was holding over your head, you selfish, greedy communionist, were the facts of fiscal reality.

Now, I understand you collectivist, greedy, selfish bastards can’t be bothered with reality, but the reality is, if your company (or your COUNTRY) has no more money to handout to you, THEN IT’S GONE, and you need to figure out a way to make those fiscal realities work.

*******

My FRiends, the austerity riots we see in Greece are coming to America.

The leftists that are tyrannically ruling this country (”I won.”) will do whatever is necessary to appease the government-sector unions and to ensure they lose as little as possible.

THEY WILL CONFISCATE YOUR PRIVATE RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS.

PLEASE PROTECT YOUR ASSETS HOWEVER YOU CAN AND PREVENT THESE CORRUPT STATISTS FROM FLEECING THE TRUE WORKING CLASS (THE PRIVATE SECTOR).


4 posted on 11/18/2012 5:44:02 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: FrdmLvr

Hard to tell these days. Is it satire or real life? The lines are blurring more and more.


5 posted on 11/18/2012 5:45:15 AM PST by Wingy (Don't blame me. I voted for the chick. I hope to do so again.)
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To: napscoordinator

Amen. Moved from a teeny town in central Georgia (lived in Ga all my life, in that house for as long as my kids have been alive, it was sad to move from all they new and family) down to south Florida for a better paying job. Costs more to live here, but steady income and health insurance is priceless.


6 posted on 11/18/2012 5:45:47 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: RoosterRedux
Luddites. Let them eat the fruits of their labor as they look for other jobs (or maybe they intend to just live off loot redistributed to them by Obama).
7 posted on 11/18/2012 5:46:40 AM PST by Truth29
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To: RoosterRedux
Of course they are relieved. Two years of unemployment checks can now start flowing. After that is exhausted, Social Security Disability until they turn 62. Then Social Security kicks in until they die.
Hunt, fish, do a few side jobs that pay under the table and they are set for life.
Hell, I would be relieved too. Except, I have my pride.
8 posted on 11/18/2012 5:46:45 AM PST by Tupelo (Republican, a national party no more.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Americans don’t understand. Unions and obama want American businesses to collapse. They hate economic freedom, they want it governed. They want businesses to fail, and there is absolutely no irony or hypocrisy in what this union did. It succeeded and its members won.


9 posted on 11/18/2012 5:47:19 AM PST by gotribe
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To: RoosterRedux

Someone should track Lamont and the other union guys to see where they will be a year from now.


10 posted on 11/18/2012 5:50:42 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: gotribe
Americans don’t understand. Unions and obama want American businesses to collapse.

Yep...and that's the bottom line.

They believe the government can create jobs and that's the BIG lie.

Just wait until these idiot learn the truth about government.

11 posted on 11/18/2012 5:51:31 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Bill Clinton just signed Paula Broadwell to write his bio...and Jill Kelley as his social liaison.)
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To: RoosterRedux; FrdmLvr
Some Hostess Workers Feel 'Relief' at Losing Jobs

Holy crap!

That "relief" would be the mill-RATs soiling themselves.

12 posted on 11/18/2012 5:55:34 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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To: RoosterRedux
Lamont Phillips, an employee, said the company had been, “holding this over our head for a long time,” and he was relieved he did not “have to deal with that anymore.”

The author missed the rest of the sentence as reported in other publications.

"“They’ve been holding this over our head for a long time and now it’s here,” said Lamont Phillips, an oven operator and the president of the local union."

Former Hostess workers in Rocky Mount 'relieved' at plant closing"

Of course the union president doesn't care. He's still on the mafia payroll.

13 posted on 11/18/2012 5:56:23 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: napscoordinator

I have family in Michigan. Back in the 90s, I tried to convince my brother to look for work out of state. He wouldn’t do it.


14 posted on 11/18/2012 5:56:34 AM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: RoosterRedux

From 2 years ago I had a workman (who has a strong work ethic) tell me all his neighbors had gotten used to staying home and doing nothing, collecting long term unemployment.


15 posted on 11/18/2012 5:56:58 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

That should have been during the Bush years, not the 90s.

Head cold...UGH!


16 posted on 11/18/2012 5:57:36 AM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Does anyone know the pay scale & perks that these union workers receive?
It would be interesting to know what they are throwing away.


17 posted on 11/18/2012 6:01:08 AM PST by certrtwngnut (He shrugs!)
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To: RoosterRedux

I’m wondering if these people get “layoff” pay through their union or something? I confess I know little about that sort of thing, especially when a company goes into liquidation. It would explain, though, why so many of these folks are apparently unconcerned. If they’re guaranteed, say, six months pay at 2/3’s salary or something, it would make it a lot less scary to be out of work.

Just speculating, of course. Like I said, I’m not really sure how these things work.


18 posted on 11/18/2012 6:02:08 AM PST by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: RoosterRedux

19 posted on 11/18/2012 6:03:20 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RoosterRedux

Why should anybody work in the Soviet Union, obama will pay them to sit at home.

Pray for America


20 posted on 11/18/2012 6:05:11 AM PST by bray (Nov 6, tell Obama to Stand Down!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Lamont, you may want to reconsider that fairly soon, for two reasons:

1. Hostess really is going bye-bye.

2. The Teamsters know who you are.


21 posted on 11/18/2012 6:05:42 AM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: RoosterRedux
They believe the government can create jobs and that's the BIG lie.

Well, I think it's important we speak correctly. Government can, of course, create jobs. Simply hire a few thousand workers to do something, and pay them from the general fund. But it takes the free market to create value, create worth, that creates jobs that pay taxes into the general fund. If the government REALLY wanted to help, they'd open up factories to create products. Or farm. But then they'd be competing against the free market, and violating their charter.

22 posted on 11/18/2012 6:08:03 AM PST by Big Giant Head
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To: Tupelo

Bingo. The amount and variety of welfare given the “47%” is staggering - equivalent to wage earner making $60,000 a year. They’d be crazy not to welcome the closing.

Eastern North Carolina is one of the desperately poor areas of this country and there will not jobs available for these people - and they are, for the most part, happy, happy.


23 posted on 11/18/2012 6:08:03 AM PST by gartrell bibberts (Remember always...MORE than 50% of Americans are of below average intelligence today.)
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To: napscoordinator
Well I hope he gets another job.

If he wasn't one of the strikers I,too,hope he gets another job.If he *was* a striker I hope that he and his family *starve*.After all,actions *do* have consequences.

24 posted on 11/18/2012 6:09:23 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: RoosterRedux
Will Twinkies be reborn through new Mexican ownership? by Adrian Carrasquillo, @RealAdrianC 3:02 pm on 11/17/2012

Next week may be Black Friday but sweets lovers across the nation hung their heads in sorrow on a dark Friday yesterday as Hostess announced they would cease making their line of products, which include the iconic Twinkies brand, because of the Bakers Union Strike.

25 posted on 11/18/2012 6:10:08 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: certrtwngnut

From what I found, they were averaging 12 to 15 bucks per hour. So close to 30K/annually.


26 posted on 11/18/2012 6:11:05 AM PST by Big Giant Head
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To: gotribe

Thats right. Every newly unemployed is added to ODUMBI’S welfare army. He wants unemployment to go up now. The Dems have seen how effective the social saftey spider web works in bringing out the votes.

Wait till there is no gasoline, then it will get crazy. That is probably the answer to unemployment. No gas No food and food stamps are no good.

Israel has all the good cards in this game.


27 posted on 11/18/2012 6:11:05 AM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: napscoordinator

You are overlooking the destabilizing of families caused by all your moving around.


28 posted on 11/18/2012 6:15:11 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: RoosterRedux

That attitude seems implausible, but once you’ve been in a union, it’s easy to understand.

The union sets up management as the enemy - the only thing that matters is that the union win, and for the union to win, you have to screw the company. Their attitude here is “Okay, so we lost our jobs, but that’s just a minor thing - we put the company out-of-business!”

Setting up a common enemy is one of the best ways of generating unity and power - the democrats are masters at establishing such boogie men (Big Oil, Evil Insurance Companies, etc). That’s card number one in the union deck - you never do anything for the company unless it’s in the contract, and when it comes to negotiations, there’s no bending - management is the bad guy, and the most important thing is that they get screwed.


29 posted on 11/18/2012 6:15:20 AM PST by Stosh
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To: napscoordinator

Texas has enough moochers, don’t send them to us.


30 posted on 11/18/2012 6:15:41 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: RoosterRedux
Of coarse they are, they now can collect unemployment, food stamps disability, welfare, social security and if there are some with the desire to work they get a job off the books and vwalla! there doing better than working the one job. Welcome to ubango’s America where work is a four letter word and a free obamaphone as your gift for diligent work in re electing the destroyer
31 posted on 11/18/2012 6:18:37 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: IMR 4350

lol. Fair enough.


32 posted on 11/18/2012 6:22:33 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: certrtwngnut

“Does anyone know the pay scale & perks that these union workers receive?”

go to:
http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Hostess-Brands-Salaries-E329177.htm

As you can see it depends on what they do. The average Joe appears not to be getting rich, but in my opinion the lowest paid person is better off with his job than without. At least they can make their financial obligations - keep that car or home or whatever.

Additionally, that pay scale does not reflect benefits, paid vacations, sick time off with pay, health, paid holidays - if any of this applies at all. Being a union job, I suspect all of it does apply to some extent.

Now they get to go on obama’s 365 plan year around paid holiday, the only work they need to do is vote for commies, and if they are too lazy to do that, those good at voter fraud will cover for them, and you, and me, and the guy next door.


33 posted on 11/18/2012 6:26:59 AM PST by redfreedom (The spineless RINO's have made themselves irrelevent and lost the country for us.)
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To: Big Giant Head
In a free market economy, a job is a self-supporting endeavor. That is, a worker creates more value than he draws out in pay (he not only creates sufficient value to cover his pay, but contributes to the organization of which he is part).

In a government job, his pay comes from an entirely separate source...the taxpayer. Without the taxpayer (i.e. a person who works in a free market economic endeavor), there is no government job.

34 posted on 11/18/2012 6:31:08 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Bill Clinton just signed Paula Broadwell to write his bio...and Jill Kelley as his social liaison.)
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To: Andrei Bulba

We have a good friend who was laid off in August. The day it happened he hopped a plane to a trade show where he knew there would be lots of people in his field of work. He did lots of networking in order to find a new job. His severance was about to run out this week and guess what he got a new job. He said that there was no way he could maintain his lifestyle on unemployment insurance. By the way, he’s 62 years old.


35 posted on 11/18/2012 6:33:54 AM PST by surrey
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To: RoosterRedux

How can a story like this not have the facts and figures to make a determination of truth? I’ve casually search with google to find out what the salaries of the line workers are in the bakeries and it is no where. It is like the union is the gestapo on information.


36 posted on 11/18/2012 6:35:01 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RoosterRedux

“Phillips said his potential layoff was a “relief” and his “plan is to find another job.”

With obama in the white house and Obamacare the law of the land? Good luck on that. You’ll just as easilly win the lottery, I’m sure.


37 posted on 11/18/2012 6:37:33 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: lowbridge

He has already found another job. He is now a professional voter. With all benefits added in he is making more money now then when he was punching the timeclock and baking twinkies. His new job is secure, he will never get laidoff. Some folks have been riding this gravytrain for several generations.


38 posted on 11/18/2012 6:47:47 AM PST by wrench
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To: RoosterRedux
“They always hold that over our heads, that they’ll close it down,” he said. “So, I’m like, ‘OK. Close it down.’”

Phillips said his potential layoff was a "relief" and his "plan is to find another job."


If working at Hostess was so gawd-awful, and finding another job is so easy, then why didn't you quit? Plenty of people would likely have been lined out the door for the job you disliked so badly. But now you not only destroyed the company, you destroyed the chances for others who would have gladly worked there.

The phrase selfish bastard comes to mind, but that probably insults the selfish bastards who aren't stupid too.
39 posted on 11/18/2012 6:51:09 AM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: RoosterRedux
“They always hold that over our heads, that they’ll close it down,” he said. “So, I’m like, ‘OK. Close it down.’”

Phillips said his potential layoff was a "relief" and his "plan is to find another job."


If working at Hostess was so gawd-awful, and finding another job is so easy, then why didn't you quit? Plenty of people would likely have been lined out the door for the job you disliked so badly. But now you not only destroyed the company, you destroyed the chances for others who would have gladly worked there.

The phrase selfish bastard comes to mind, but that probably insults the selfish bastards who aren't stupid too.
40 posted on 11/18/2012 6:51:09 AM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: napscoordinator

A friend of mine sells real estate in Austin.

He said Austin is filling up with rich white liberals from New York and California.

True to form, rich white liberals are forcing poor blacks out of their neighborhood by forcing property values up so they can’t pay the taxes.


41 posted on 11/18/2012 6:57:08 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: RoosterRedux
Jeez, Lamont. I can understand the "relief" when an unpleasant but anticipated (even unavoidable) event comes to pass, but the "Hey, I'll just go get another job" part?

Tell him, Fred:


42 posted on 11/18/2012 6:57:10 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: RoosterRedux
guess nobody told the chickenhead that there isn't a big call for unemployed highschool dropout union suckholes these days...
43 posted on 11/18/2012 7:16:15 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: napscoordinator
Go to Texas or somewhere that is hiring

No, No......please don't come here. We don't want any union lover Obama voters.

44 posted on 11/18/2012 7:18:27 AM PST by Texan
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To: Texan; napscoordinator

No, No......please don’t come here. We don’t want any union lover Obama voters.


I moved here about two years ago after retiring from the military.

It’s horrible, HORRIBLE I tell ya! The bugs are awful. It’s hot and muggy. There are wild hogs EVERYWHERE!

People carry guns, even small children!

If you are a liberal you should stay out of Texas.

Go to Chicago, instead.

On a personal note, my wife and I found a wonderful home in Texas. We want it to stay the way it is.


45 posted on 11/18/2012 7:24:35 AM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Phillips said his potential layoff was a "relief" and his "plan is to find another job."

Well good luck with that. There are plenty of job available. Right?

Lots that pay the same wage (even with the 8% cut). Right?

Unions foster a entitlement mentality among the rank and file that makes the members believe they are underpaid and overworked even if the prevailing wage is 30 percent lower in the market.

Just wait until the knuklehead figures out there are no jobs for his qualifications. and he weill be forced to work at 75% of his salary if he is lucky to get a job.

46 posted on 11/18/2012 7:32:56 AM PST by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: redfreedom

Those numbers at glassdoor reflect salary of the distribution business. Union manufacturing employees make quite a bit more.

I would guess an operator or mechanic makes 25 to 30 per hour. Just a guess of course.


47 posted on 11/18/2012 7:37:41 AM PST by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: Stosh

I see you have worked with unions before.


48 posted on 11/18/2012 7:41:10 AM PST by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: Stosh

I see you have worked with unions before.


49 posted on 11/18/2012 7:41:10 AM PST by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: central_va
It is like the union is the gestapo on information.

Most Unions keep a lock on information for just this reason.

50 posted on 11/18/2012 7:59:57 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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