Posted on 11/17/2012 12:24:28 PM PST by fwdude
The 2012 election was an open door for the GOP to lead America back to its roots in faith and morality, and the Republicans were AWOL, says Dr. James Dobson, founder of Family Talk and a brand new political outreach arm called Family Talk Action.
“I waited throughout the campaign for Mitt Romney to declare himself, to at least identify with the moral issues that are before us. He would not touch them,” Dobson said on a two-part radio program in which Penny Nance, head of Concerned Women for America, joined.
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Believe as you wish, I have no problem with that.
But your comments about and to those you disagree with reveal a nasty and judgmental character. You aren’t going to persuade anyone with your attitude. You will be dismissed as an arbitrary and contemptuous crank convinced of your own rectitude.
When I used to teach elementary school, from the first day I went over the rules for the classroom. We discussed each rule, why it was a good rule and what the consequences would be for breaking the rule. Every class had the few who would challenge my authority, but I showed them that I meant what I said, and there were no second chances - the punishment was meted out as we discussed. It wasn't paddling, BTW. I would usually have to be hard on them for about two weeks - not letting any slip by - but that was all it took. They knew the rules and knew I would enforce them fairly. The rest of the year went smoothly and I rarely had discipline problems. All the other teachers would ask me how I got my class to be so well-behaved.
I think what children today are missing out on because of the need for both parents to work to support the family is that they end up being raised by their teachers or other caregivers who do not have the experience, education or temperament - much less the authority - to train each child up in the ways best suited to each one. They have to go with a one-size-fits-all strategy and it's why we have so much of a problem in public schools. I taught in a private Christian school - they couldn't pay me enough to teach in public ones today! If kids do not learn respect for authority at home, they will seldom learn it anywhere else.
>> “...he is a psychologist, first, which is about as respectable as an actor in a traveling troupe” <<
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This is one of those times where I have to agree with you fully. Jungian psychology is about as anti-biblical as you can get. It totally denies the spirit nature of men, making all things secular in nature.
My suspicion is that Dobson is not saved, or he would know better.
A dog that bares it teeth to me is going to get walloped. He’s going to wish Thor would come and strike him down with his hammer.
In addition to dogs, I’ve got horses. A horse who threatened to bite or kick me will wish it had never been born.
Guess I’m just a horrible person...
Oh, and I DID spank my kids, none of whom is anti-social, addicted, or a bully.
Public schools keep churning out generation after generation of good little marxists...
>> “ But he was also a man with some steel behind his tears, and who contended against pornographers and liberal establishment, and alerted and mobilized us to action.” <<
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Dobson is a Moralist, like most Freemasons are, but moralism is not Christian in nature, but humanist/secularist.
“Oh yeah, what your dad did? How about going with you and reading you a bedtime story, wouldn’t that have been nicer than spanking you back up the stairs?”
WOW! You really ARE clueless, aren’t you!
Yes, I like your approach
I felt horrible about it every time (maybe about 10 X) that I did it. I don’t like it, and that doesn’t make me a hypocrite. I smoked cigarettes while in college, don’t now, don’t recommend it and that doesn’t make me a hypocrite either.
well she may have craved some attention since she was one of five and you know how kids are, if they crave attention they will take positive or settle for negative. He could have got her quieted down, but obviously you and I have different approaches. I don’t think it was a safety issue, like a horse being aggressive.
wow, didn’t know the guy was a Freemason
Well, you know what?
My parents set the guidelines and I KNEW they would be enforced and I KNEW how.
If I chose to disobey, the consequences were MY choice. I never felt they were being mean, or unfair, of unkind, or whatever else you wish to charge them with when they followed through. I knew it was my own stupid fault for challenging them.
The only times I resented discipline, and not just spankings but ANY kind of discipline, was when I didn’t do it and they either wouldn’t listen to me or believe me.
Other than that, I got what I was fairly warned was coming.
Kids aren’t stupid. They can tell the difference. Discipline, even spankings, aren’t resented when they are deserved. And there were times I’d have RATHER had the spanking over other forms of discipline.
LOL,
Homosexuality the Boy Scouts and the military and removing abortion from the republican party platform are mere ‘cherry picking’ issues, and “state” issues?
The United States military, the national Boy Scouts, and the national Republican Party, and you want to let the states force local rules onto them?
“”Same with the Boy Scouts - he said the organization should make the call; not the Federal government.””
Really? The Boy Scouts don’t want to be forced to have homosexual leaders, Mitt wants them to become homosexualized, just like he supports the entire homosexual agenda.
That is a revelation, either of James Dobson, or what some people are willing to believe based on dubious sources: do you have some actual documentation that he is a Mason?
Masonry is definitely not Christian, yet one is not a mere moralist because they preach Christian morality as part of the Christian message, and Dobson’s affirmation of the evangelical gospel made quite manifest over many years.
Focus on the Family yet states its mission is “disseminating the Gospel of Jesus Christ to as many people as possible,” and its Statement of Faith if definitely Christian, not Masonic. (http://www.ministrywatch.com/profile/focus-on-the-family.aspx)
And while he was somewhat too ecumenical at times with Catholics, he regularly would air evangelical testimonies and invite souls to conversion.
Yes, they have their faults, but it seems some are preoccupied with looking for and magnifying them,and lack a balanced view.
That’s a wrong generality too. Science is a neutral thing; it is the study of empiricisms. It is the use to which the knowledge thereby gained is put, that is either evil or good.
I officially ride the fence, how’s that for an emphatic maybe. Here’s what I said once I learned about what she was doing.
Well, quite frankly I hadn’t heard your own story and I can understand the concern of the “monsters.”
If God is truly moving you to “total nonviolence” then God will also bless it. BUT — I think it’s too easy to paint others’ somewhat different styles as “monstrous.” The touchstone of balance in chastising children is Ephesians 6:4 — “fathers, do not exasperate” (or provoke to rage) “your children, lest they lose heart.” The idea is not to get them to fear YOU personally, but to fear your specific displeasure at their misbehavior, if sweet reason is not enough to reach them. If the reaction is to burst into blind rage then you may have overdone it and you should moderate.
So I thoroughly ride the fence on this one.
How something is intended and how it’s taken are different affairs.
Spanking is necessary sometimes, but is not the only answer all the time. It’s not a one size fits all solution.
Sometimes it’s a last resort, sometimes other discipline works better. It varies from child to child, and even from situation to situation and age to age with the same child.
Too bad that those who do use spanking when necessary are broad brushed as using only it all the time without restraint, thus portraying us as essentially child abusers. Especially when we are compared to them. It’s not hard to miss the implication.
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