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Former Hostess workers in Rocky Mount 'relieved' at plant closing (Can't get much dumber)
NBC 17 ^ | 11/16/2012 | JUSTIN QUESINBERRY

Posted on 11/16/2012 2:14:27 PM PST by tobyhill

Several former workers at a Hostess Brands plant in Rocky Mount said Friday they were relieved after the company filed for bankruptcy, seeking to close its operations.

The closings will mean the loss of about 18,500 jobs overall.

“They’ve been holding this over our head for a long time and now it’s here,” said Lamont Phillips, an oven operator and the president of the local union. “They had to do it.

“I don’t have to deal with that anymore. The things that they were trying to do to us, it wasn’t fair.

“They always hold that over our heads, that they’ll close it down. So, I’m like, ‘OK. Close it down.’”

And on Friday, Hostess did. The flag at a Hostess plant in Rocky Mount hung at half staff on Friday afternoon, and many former workers there hung around outside to talk about what had happened.

Hostess had offered an 8 percent pay cut, but Phllips said that wasn’t going to work for the employees.

“We’re not making a whole lot of money out here and then we got to take a pay cut like that. Then you got your health benefits going up,” he said. “They stopped paying into the pension fund. ….

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To: LongWayHome

“Yes....lot’s of great people in northern New England & upper NY. Not a lot of good jobs up this way, a bit difficult to make a living, but it’s still a nice lifestyle. I live in Mass, but I’m going to retire up here in central NH when the time comes. This part of the country still looks like the areas I grew up in back in the 70s. Best thing is there is no traffic in the off-season & yet I’m still just 2 hours to Boston if I need to get down there quick.”

I usually spend a few weeks a year up that way. I’m considering spending 3 months in upstate NY next summer if I can make the scheduling work out.
I haven’t been to Mass. or NH or Maine yet.
I spent a week in Pennsylvania. I’d be willing to pay up to $10.00 for the whole state but I’d want $9.95 back if I had to take Philly lol.


201 posted on 11/16/2012 5:17:55 PM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: Rebelbase

No clue. I’ll let you know when I get there. :)


202 posted on 11/16/2012 5:18:20 PM PST by ShadowDancer ("Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong.")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Petroleum taste? Why, that’s only the very best of hyper-aerated hydrogenated cottonseed oil!”

Tastes just like gasoline...Don’t ask me how I know that lol.


203 posted on 11/16/2012 5:19:52 PM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: snarkybob

You can’t go wrong visiting the coast of Maine. Beautiful place. If you like history Boston is a great city to visit. You can walk everywhere in Boston cause it’s so small.


204 posted on 11/16/2012 5:20:40 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: snarkybob

Leaded? White Amoco premium? Avgas?


205 posted on 11/16/2012 5:22:44 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: LongWayHome

“You can’t go wrong visiting the coast of Maine. Beautiful place. If you like history Boston is a great city to visit. You can walk everywhere in Boston cause it’s so small.”

Boston is on my list for 2013.


206 posted on 11/16/2012 5:25:16 PM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Leaded? White Amoco premium? Avgas?”

The cheap gas...Ha, that’s an oxymoron.
The kind I used to siphon out of my old mans tractor when I had blown my gas allowance.


207 posted on 11/16/2012 5:27:13 PM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: snarkybob

Oh, spittooey. More of a texture than a flavor thing I suppose.


208 posted on 11/16/2012 5:40:41 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: snarkybob

The Company was working with a 80M loan that was given to them to either work out a deal or close. Losing 8M a day during the strike its easy to see that the only golden parachute was borrowed money via a court order. Once the trademarks are sold and the equipment I really don’t think the management is walking away dragging bags of cash. The Unions were warned that time was short, even the Teamsters urged them to settle. Frankly they get what they asked for.


209 posted on 11/16/2012 5:42:33 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Isn't freedom worth fighting for?)
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To: WKTimpco
”So, I’m like, ‘OK. there's supposed to be a 'physical clift' or something coming; = So I’m like, Hey, let's demand more money and stuff, it's only fair, right?. Close 'em down and step over that clift, OK dude?

It's really worked good all across the west coast for almost ever. So let's keep moving foward; and, and besides, president Obama knows what he's doing for all the rest of us, So I'm like Just do it man!

210 posted on 11/16/2012 5:46:02 PM PST by norton (a)
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To: snarkybob

The teamsters settled and urged the bakers to settle. But u can’t fix stupid. Peace.


211 posted on 11/16/2012 5:47:44 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Isn't freedom worth fighting for?)
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To: re_nortex

Its gonna suck when the union takes their tables and chairs away from them. Geez?


212 posted on 11/16/2012 5:51:21 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Isn't freedom worth fighting for?)
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To: tobyhill

Please put state in headline.


213 posted on 11/16/2012 5:55:57 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: tobyhill

We’ve seen quite a few interesting stories on pay and employment over the past year or so. As for sugary foods (cupcakes and the like), I tend to avoid ‘em.

School Salary Database Reveals What Ohio Educators Earned In 2010 (1,800 over $100K)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2659419/posts

77,000 feds paid more than governors
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2728457/posts

Wisconsin teachers and administrators pay and benefits average about $90,000
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2678029/posts

The average Phoenix city employee makes $100,000 per year
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2648679/posts

Milwaukee Teacher Pay to Top $100,000 [Teaching for the Money]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2683226/posts

The $100K-Plus Employees in Michigan’s Prison System
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2822993/posts

Teacher Made Over $80K Per Year, Retires With a Pension of Over $40K — Claims ‘Violation of Trust’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2884830/posts

Uzbekistan Pays Teachers With Chickens (glimpse of future US?)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2870596/posts

Lifeguards’ high pay riles Calif. beach city
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2722709/posts

SCHOOL CHIEF MAKES MORE THAN $500,000
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2685103/posts


214 posted on 11/16/2012 5:57:03 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Hot Tabasco; massgopguy

So what’s the law about collecting unemployment comp? Does it vary by state? I would really love if the strikers were not able to collect.


215 posted on 11/16/2012 5:57:08 PM PST by old and tired
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To: massgopguy

I like Wonder Bread, but what I want to know is what they were making per hour.


216 posted on 11/16/2012 5:57:39 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Where I’ve seen it, Wonder was costlier than some sandwich breads, but nowhere near the top of the range.

The old slogan about “helping build strong bodies 12 ways” was probably more attractive back the 50s and 60s.


217 posted on 11/16/2012 6:01:04 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: ShadowDancer

Everyday.. my drive to work hard slows a bit when I see the crap the takers are getting from me.

I have gone galt. my 6 figure income next year will be cut in half. I don’t need to work this hard. I don’t need to invest all that money in my company. I am kicking it in neutral and coasting through the rest of zero.


218 posted on 11/16/2012 6:36:04 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: snarkybob
So the Teamsters did get a better bribe with double the routes. That’s probably why they urged the bakers to take a paycut huh?

Doesn't matter. Your statements since have proved that the company's demise is due to the unions. Better bribes, double routes, etc., have helped to drive the company into the ground over the past decade while management has struggled to tread water.

219 posted on 11/16/2012 6:46:22 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Bathhouse Barry wants YOU to bend over)
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To: snarkybob

<Seriously I have to think that healthier diet awareness played a part. Didn’t Krispy Kreme take a major hit a few years ago?

I read that in one of the financial sites last night. Part of the problem with Hostess - and why they might not get a buyer, so take that unionists - is that the country has changed and wants healthier snacks. Also, there is a ton of competition in the snack market. Hostess will be missed for about a month, then people will substitute with whatever they can get at their local stores and move on.


220 posted on 11/16/2012 6:47:33 PM PST by radiohead (Taxmaggeddon - are you ready?)
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To: All

A baker earned $16.77 at Hostess.

These idiots threw away a job offer of $15.43 per hour and still near no cost Health Insurance. I’m pretty sure they really didn’t want to work anyway.


221 posted on 11/16/2012 6:58:28 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: cableguymn

I just hung up the phone with my dad where I talked about this and my desire to just do it. I want to do it so damn bad. But I can’t. No matter how bad it gets I can’t make myself do it. Part of me is proud and part of me loathes me for it.


222 posted on 11/16/2012 7:21:23 PM PST by ShadowDancer ("Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong.")
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To: ShadowDancer

I opted for cutting back. Still making enough to get bills paid, have a little fun..

But the extra? Nope. The takers can hit someone else up. This guy is going to make just enough to break even on paper and pay as little tax as possible.


223 posted on 11/16/2012 7:47:41 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: snarkybob

“I wonder what the compensation was for the execs.
I seem to recall that in the last 15 years lots of corporations were driven into the ground by execs who then bailed out with their own private golden parachutes.”

A detailed article here:
http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2012/07/26/hostess-twinkies-bankrupt/
(a little dated, from last July)

EXCERPT:
“Even as it played the numbers game, Hostess had to face chaos in the corner office at the worst possible time. Driscoll, the CEO, departed suddenly and without explanation in March. It may have been that the Teamsters no longer felt it could trust him. In early February, Hostess had asked the bankruptcy judge to approve a sweet new employment deal for Driscoll. Its terms guaranteed him a base annual salary of $1.5 million, plus cash incentives and “long-term incentive” compensation of up to $2 million. If Hostess liquidated or Driscoll were fired without cause, he’d still get severance pay of $1.95 million as long as he honored a noncompete agreement.”

Gee, for a company in dire straits, you would think that there would be some “performance strings attached” to his compensation contract. But there seem to have been none, at least in this case. Certainly doesn’t help when the company is trying to put forward an “austerity” argument. Just sayin’...

I’ll guess that when the assets, equipment, trademarks are sold off, the new owners will look to startup again. They’ll probably be looking for -some- former employees. I’d expect them to have a “blacklist”, as well. Them’s the breaks, I guess.


224 posted on 11/16/2012 8:00:59 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: funfan
The evil, rich, factory owner meme is what made for the union label.

Sometimes, back in the day, it was even a mite true.

Now, with OSHA and the sort of safety programs needed to keep insurance companies from devouring the bottom line, (not to mention squadrons of tort lawyers on the alert catapult), working conditions have improved for just about everyone out there who actually works.

State licensure, inspection, and exams, and even websites detailing contractor work quality provide a means to maintain a work standard.

So maybe it is just a sense of belonging, a t-shirt or jacket with the 'brand', or the desire to fork over part of the paycheck to the union that keeps these things running.

But then, I never have understood the mentality.

225 posted on 11/16/2012 8:04:13 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: snarkybob

“I already said I didn’t research it...but...if I had to guess why, Id say the Teamsters got a better bribe than the bakers. Or possibly the teamster boss got a better kickback.”

Actually, I believe the Teamsters either were granted access to Hostess’ books, or somehow got ahold of the company’s financial information.

When they saw that, someone was smart enough to realize the company was on its deathbed. That’s why they told the bakers’ union to end the strike and go back to work...


226 posted on 11/16/2012 8:07:03 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: ShadowDancer

“And that, my friends, is why welfare reform works.”

... until ObamaCare kicks in. After which they’ll be covered whether they’re working, or not.

And YOU’LL be paying for the coverage! ;)


227 posted on 11/16/2012 8:12:02 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: snarkybob

[[ “There’s a supermarket here in New England called Shaws that is slowly going out of business because of union overhead. They have these big, beautiful stores, and they are all empty cause their prices are crazy.”

What’s taking their place. ]]

Walmart has moved into New England in a big way within the past 15 years, and most of the stores have a “food section”. Then again, there are the “Super Walmarts” with their own attached supermarket. Well-stocked and low prices.

Also, a Massachusetts company, “Big Y” seems to have moved into the market in southern New England. Very nice, but higher prices.


228 posted on 11/16/2012 8:18:46 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: snarkybob

“I’ve been to Vermont and NH is on my to do list. Just not until June lol.
The country is beautiful and all the people I met were the tops. Same can be said for rural NY state.”

As leftist as Vermont is (the entire state), if you can put up with the attitudes, and afford the cost of real estate, it’s going to be one of the best places to be (in terms of “survivability”) when the urban/suburban areas crash and fall apart. Vermont is perhaps the most “un-diverse” state in the country, if you get my drift...

Although folks ‘way up in the Northeast Kingdom probably still have the old New England conservative streak in ‘em. Still folks like that scattered around the state. For now, that is...


229 posted on 11/16/2012 8:26:29 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: tobyhill

Now they can get all the free stuff from Obama.


230 posted on 11/16/2012 8:29:59 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Red Badger

Good one! LOL.


231 posted on 11/16/2012 9:23:27 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Safrguns

“Good luck finding a new job you idiots.”

Yeah, “relief” is not a word I would use having just been fired in a place where UE is bumping up on 15%! They’s all been so put upon for sooo many years, and now they have nothing! So where was their union in all of this? I just imagine that all the Business Agents and the Union Leadership is headed out of town in their new union-furnished Cadillacs.


232 posted on 11/16/2012 10:07:16 PM PST by vette6387
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To: The Duke

“In other news, former Hostess employees today were awarded 18,500 Darwin Awards.”

I think, to be fair, the 5,000 members of the Baker’s Union need the Darwin Award. Most Darwin “recipients” are deceased, which may well be the case when the Teamster’s Union goons who worked for Hostess hunt down Lamont and his Holder’s People “friends.”


233 posted on 11/16/2012 10:25:58 PM PST by vette6387
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>> The things that they were trying to do to us, it wasn’t fair.

Then start your own business, douchebag.


234 posted on 11/16/2012 10:33:51 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: tobyhill

The idiot is now UNEMPLOYED! That means you are out of a job!The money you would have earned with a 8% pay cut is a hell of a lot more than unemployment you booger eating embarrassment to carbon based life forms .


235 posted on 11/17/2012 12:42:37 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner
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To: tobyhill

At the time of Hostess’s liquidation, these were its brands in the United States:

Baker’s Inn
Beefsteak
Blue Ribbon
Bread du Jour
Butternut Breads
Colombo
Cotton’s
Di Carlo
Dolly Madison
Drake’s
Dutch Hearth
Eddy’s
Good Hearth
Holsom
Home Pride
Hostess
J.J. Nissen
Merita
Millbrook
Mrs. Cubbison’s Foods
Nature’s Pride
Parisian
Standish Farms
Sweetheart
Twinkie
Toscana
Wonder Bread


236 posted on 11/17/2012 12:48:11 AM PST by procrustes (You make Free Republic look bad!)
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To: tobyhill

Let’s see. I was taught that you don’t voluntarily leave a Job until you have a Job to replace it.

Don’t like your Job as a Baker, look for a new Job on your time off or go back to school at night or weekends so you can get a better Job.

That was the America I grew up in. Now there is no downside since Santa Obama will send you a check and turn you into a Victim. In other words, a Democrat Voter for life.


237 posted on 11/17/2012 1:14:07 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Win or lose, Impeach Obama Ben Ghazi...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Oh, I forgot one thing. According to Richard Trunka, the daily Union Thug visitor to the White House, it’s Romney’s fault.


238 posted on 11/17/2012 1:18:00 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Win or lose, Impeach Obama Ben Ghazi...)
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To: RightFighter
My favorite cookie is a Mallomar, made by Nabisco.

They were made in the Tri State area when I lived in New York when I was a child.

Now they make them in Canada. Instead of eating them while enjoying a glass of Milk like I used to, I have a Beer.

239 posted on 11/17/2012 1:28:43 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Win or lose, Impeach Obama Ben Ghazi...)
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To: boop
Demond used to live in Laguna Niguel, CA where we live. I ran into him at the Grocery Store a few times some years back.

I think he moved to Palm Springs, or he died, which is pretty much the same thing.

240 posted on 11/17/2012 1:33:08 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Win or lose, Impeach Obama Ben Ghazi...)
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To: procrustes

It isn’t just the bakeries, it is the day-old bread stores which will close, too...


241 posted on 11/17/2012 1:59:05 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Oberon
Rocky Mount is a PATHETIC place, last time I was there!! Hundreds of empty houses after the huge flood and LOTS of people on welfare. What IDIOTS....8% reduction was too much??? Now it's 100%

You can't fix STUPID AND UNION!

242 posted on 11/17/2012 2:54:56 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: LongWayHome

We just cancelled our trip next summer going thru all the New England states for a few weeks.....WHY would I want to spend hard earned money in BLUE STATES?????


243 posted on 11/17/2012 2:59:29 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: xzins
I like Wonder Bread, but what I want to know is what they were making per hour.

I heard on the radio that the dough mixers made $17 an hour (I assume that means operating a dough mixing machine, not making it by hand!).

244 posted on 11/18/2012 4:32:41 PM PST by maryz
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To: maryz

17 an hour is not very much....34,000 a year.


245 posted on 11/18/2012 10:51:44 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
True -- even less if you have to pay union dues out of it!

It does depend somewhat though on where the plants are located. Even in Boston (where I am), there are people who make less in spite of the high cost of living, but in some parts of the country, I believe the cost of living is significantly lower.

246 posted on 11/19/2012 5:23:07 AM PST by maryz
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To: xzins

Of course, I’ve been wondering too how much of a hit Hostess has been taking from Michelle Obama’s “healthy eating” pogrom — oops! I mean program! I imagine Hostess treats would have been among those in school vending machines before the junk food jihad started. (School vending machines, not to mention school cafeterias, came well after my time, so I’m not sure!)


247 posted on 11/19/2012 5:30:45 AM PST by maryz
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To: maryz

I live in a chronically high unemployment, high welfare rural area. At the same time, so many of them have farm backgrounds, and the available jobs are tough....logging, construction, etc.... Folks get excited at $10-11 dollar jobs that come open, and that’s only 20,000 a year. Many can make that work out here because they have a piece of the farm that gramps left everyone, and because both husband and wife work.

$17 an hour where I live would be welcome in spades. Anyone moves here with a small to medium business would do great with a ready work force that is far more interested in work than in unions. The problem might be a relatively small population for the entire county (about 25,000), but they’d get hard workers.

That doesn’t make 17 grand be a lot of money, though. It just isn’t when you factor in the daily necessities of transportation, fuel, home, food, clothing, family needs, etc.

But it’s a liveable income for a lower middle class lifestyle, and that’s all these folks would be asking.

I agree with those who said that losing 8% of your income is better than losing 100%, which is what the unions managed to do on behalf of these now unemployed workers.


248 posted on 11/19/2012 5:40:52 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: massgopguy
BTW, if you’re making Wonder Bread do you really qualify as a Baker.

Yes. LOL

249 posted on 11/19/2012 8:44:11 AM PST by NathanR
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To: cableguymn

That is a good one. I wasn’t aware of that specifically but I know there are many scams going around like that. While we work hard to pay for bums and slackers, they are working the system with a Chessmaster’s cunning.

I don’t believe in Karma but I do believe there is some form of accounting in the next life. And all I do bad in this life I will be held to account and so will they. I would shape up a bit if I was them so as not to have too large a debt to pay off in the next life.

But yes, we are being cleaned out by the takers and parasites. We are working hard just to pay half our take back to the various governments in taxes and 40% of this nation is raking it in for doing nothing or almost nothing.

It is sickening.


250 posted on 11/30/2012 12:44:06 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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