“We’re not making a whole lot of money out here and then we got to take a pay cut like that. Then you got your health benefits going up,” he said."Health costs going up? Now why would that be?
Posted on 11/16/2012 2:14:27 PM PST by tobyhill
Several former workers at a Hostess Brands plant in Rocky Mount said Friday they were relieved after the company filed for bankruptcy, seeking to close its operations.
The closings will mean the loss of about 18,500 jobs overall.
“They’ve been holding this over our head for a long time and now it’s here,” said Lamont Phillips, an oven operator and the president of the local union. “They had to do it.
“I don’t have to deal with that anymore. The things that they were trying to do to us, it wasn’t fair.
“They always hold that over our heads, that they’ll close it down. So, I’m like, ‘OK. Close it down.’”
And on Friday, Hostess did. The flag at a Hostess plant in Rocky Mount hung at half staff on Friday afternoon, and many former workers there hung around outside to talk about what had happened.
Hostess had offered an 8 percent pay cut, but Phllips said that wasn’t going to work for the employees.
“We’re not making a whole lot of money out here and then we got to take a pay cut like that. Then you got your health benefits going up,” he said. “They stopped paying into the pension fund. ….
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“HA! About half of those simply hired.com job postings are duplicates for “oven operator” and a lot of them are for “oven helper”.”
They could go work at McDonald’s and be a Hamburger Helper.
“Instead of speculating about the Execs screwing the poor
little workers why don’t you do some reasearch and find out.
I am sure it is public record what they were paid and don’t you think if that was the case the MSM would be plastering it all over the air waves?”
Because I don’t care enough one way or the other to research it. Everybody else on this thread seemed to be speculating wildly in favor of the poor abused Hostess company. I just thought a little balance was called for.
Probably the labor force sucked. Probably management sucked just as much.
Paying the work force is part of doing business, if they can’t do that and still stay open....well the market has spoken huh?
Not 18,500, just 5,000. There were half a dozen unions who had already accepted the deal, the Bakers were holding out.
Klew: If the Teamsters looks at the situation and agrees to a pay cut, maybe your strike is a kamikaze.
Hey SNARKY.... Explain why the Teamsters told the Bakers to take it?
Take your time as you gather your thoughts.
“We’re not making a whole lot of money out here and then we got to take a pay cut like that. Then you got your health benefits going up,” he said."Health costs going up? Now why would that be?
Oh no!
It is almost Chrismas, and now we will have no Hostess HO Hos!
Mabye the Union hacks who lost their jobs will get Christmas HO HOs from Santa Bama. Or maybe just Christmas Hos. “Swipe my EBT, Ho.”
One more thing, under UNION RULES Twinkies and Wonder Bread could NOT be delivered by the same route!!
Take your time as you gather your thoughts!!
“Hey SNARKY.... Explain why the Teamsters told the Bakers to take it?
Take your time as you gather your thoughts.”
I already said I didn’t research it...but...if I had to guess why, Id say the Teamsters got a better bribe than the bakers. Or possibly the teamster boss got a better kickback.
Clearly, they're part of the EEEEEEeeeeevil, repressive anti-worker conspiracy. Duh.
Seriously. You're drilling a dry well, here. You do know that, right...? ;)
You and Jethro Bodine are learnin' to cipher real good. Wahoo!
North Carolina needs to make sure these economic terrorists do NOT get unemployment benefits for destroying a company and thousands of jobs.
“One more thing, under UNION RULES Twinkies and Wonder Bread could NOT be delivered by the same route!!
Take your time as you gather your thoughts!!”
So the Teamsters did get a better bribe with double the routes. That’s probably why they urged the bakers to take a paycut huh?
No, my misinformed one. The teamsters saw the books and the company was not viable. Chapter 13 was inevitable.
The idiots are the bakers that caused 18,900 direct and untold thousands indirect job losses.
Good luck getting a job at Little Debbie.
I have never seen the actual numbers but I understand unemployment compensation plus other benefits that go with it would exceed what they are making. My same source said Massachusetts pays the most - anyone have a link to the amounts, state by state?
I sure hope that none of Lamont’s 18,000 fellow *former* employees track him down and administer some severe revolutionary justice.That would break my ******* heart.
These rules have been in place for many years. You are a very young Robert.
“”Then you got your health benefits going up,” he said.””
Hmmm - wouldn’t that be a good thing? Who wouldn’t want their BENEFITS to go up?
I am suprised in a way. The Teamsters agreed to the deal. In the old days, the Teamsters would have cracked a few heads to get the others on board.
indeed. your state makes me want to look in to the costs of moving my house about 45 miles east of here.
“No, my misinformed one. The teamsters saw the books and the company was not viable. Chapter 13 was inevitable.”
So the Teamsters let the Wonder Bread and the Twinkies go on the same route then?
You just said they didn’t.
Let me reiterate, I don’t care....at all. I don’t eat Twinkies and I don’t Live in Rocky Mount.
I just thought the thread needed some balance to the evil union blessed management posts.
It gets better.. I recently unfriended someone on FB that is in a union. His union has been playing a game with most of their work force.
Get um a gig that lasts at least 15 weeks and 1 day... Then put them back on unemployment. When it’s about to run out, back to work for 15 weeks and a day.
They have been doing this for 4 years and he’s happy to sit on his ass and play xbox..
His gloating on election day was enough for him to get kicked off my friends list.
Slow and steady stops the rising tide of Socialism! :)
The unions have scab lists from decades ago that are still referred to in the airline business.
Nonunion workers should be on another list for prospective employers. The striking workers need to be completely shunned.
The Twinkie workers will see their and their families’ quality of life plummet. They will be in for quite a shock.
Now that there is nothing over this jackass’s head he will be able to hold it high while standing in line to collect his unemployment chits.
A strange little sales promo about an Angel (White) and a devil (Red) who have a bet over a particular bread salesman, on whether he stays a good salesman or can be influenced to do evil (i.e. be lazy and not try to push the bread). ;)
Do it! We need more Patriot boots on the ground! :)
The Teamsters agreed to the cut. The bakers didn’t.
The rules about hostess deliveries have been known for years.
Nothing more to worry. Take your obamaphone, your pension is shot.
it is only 26 weeks of unemployment and the states will have to do job retraining because of the number of employees throughout too many states that the states are now required to do retraining (the tax payers pick up the cost).
due to the nature of the company in bankrupcy the bills owed by the company that result in its liquidation of assets will cause for many people to lose many of the benfits icluding matching funds, healthcare and other benefis that may have not been lost already. Odd there were only 3 plants closed, an additional 30 plants will close.
Yeah, what me worry? I am sure there are 18,500 jobs to easily come by in Rocky Mount...not.
I guess this noodle head thinks all of the nearly 19,000 folks are going to find it easy to find new jobs.
I feel for any conservatives in the bunch, but for the rest... LMAO.
It warms my heart to see those that actually helped vote Obama into office getting consequences.... the more the better.
I have heard that, but I don't understand that complaint. I know that the snack routes are independent operators, so the company doesn't pay for trucks or gas anyway. The bread routes are the ones that are all company employees with company vehicles.
However, they might be referring to the delivery to the distribution centers instead of the actual delivery to the stores.
“The Teamsters agreed to the cut. The bakers didn’t.
The rules about hostess deliveries have been known for years.
Nothing more to worry. Take your obamaphone, your pension is shot.”
My pension isn’t tied to bakers...butchers either and don’t even get me started on the candlestick makers..
You seem to be overly emotional about this. Were you in middle management with Hostess?
“”My same source said Massachusetts pays the most - anyone have a link to the amounts, state by state?””
Good question. You can google each state I suppose. The state maximum benefit in Massachusetts, effective October 7, 2012, is $674 per week..
I had thought that CA had the highest which is $450/per week...max benefit. I would be surprised if any state could beat MA.
The creditors of the company might have something to say about that....
Someone will buy those trademarks from the bankruptcy court and continue making Twinkies (and no doubt it will be in a non-union shop) but it won't be the present corporation or any of its owners.
Don’t forget the slimelicker who set out to manufacture a news story with a political agenda http://www2.nbc17.com/staff/52705/
Per the article, “...the state will have to decide if the former Hostess workers qualify for unemployment benefits. “
If they get even one nickel of benefits the governor should be recalled.
Au contraire my friend. Now he has 100% of a secure government job, welfare!
And that, my friends, is why welfare reform works.
One story I’d read said that the Teamsters were shown the books, went through them with their own accountants, and told the bakers that no, Hostess wasn’t kidding or bluffing, they really were broke. They’re a slightly smarter grade of parasite - when smacked in the face a few times with the proof, they eventually accepted it. After all, if the host company dies, they lose their income from the workers there.
They don’t have to work now. Obama’s gonna take care of them. /s
send them all to law school
they can fill those 15,000 IRS agent enforcers for Obamacare
hey diana let us know what is happening in Madistan, with many changes in employment going around the country how is Madistan holding up. There is the big bakery in Sun prairie just of 151. what about WPS in Madistan near the beltline? how is the state home for the developmentally disabled is it still open or what. It has been a few years since I have been back to the god forsaken place. when I graduated in early 2000, i fleed Madistan as fast as I could. worked for a time in Milwaukee area till i moved up to the UP of Michigan to have my own business.
Why are you talking to yourself?
There's another dumb thing you did. You voted for Obomba. That's why the health care premiums are going through the roof.
Lamont..... must be Amish.
Here you go! Some surprises (to me) here. MA could go as high as 900+ per week benefit from this info.
http://fileunemployment.org/unemployment-benefits-comparison-by-state
I know the Hostess Outlet here was picked clean today and apparently the workers were surlier than usual.
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