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Former Hostess workers in Rocky Mount 'relieved' at plant closing (Can't get much dumber)
NBC 17 ^ | 11/16/2012 | JUSTIN QUESINBERRY

Posted on 11/16/2012 2:14:27 PM PST by tobyhill

Several former workers at a Hostess Brands plant in Rocky Mount said Friday they were relieved after the company filed for bankruptcy, seeking to close its operations.

The closings will mean the loss of about 18,500 jobs overall.

“They’ve been holding this over our head for a long time and now it’s here,” said Lamont Phillips, an oven operator and the president of the local union. “They had to do it.

“I don’t have to deal with that anymore. The things that they were trying to do to us, it wasn’t fair.

“They always hold that over our heads, that they’ll close it down. So, I’m like, ‘OK. Close it down.’”

And on Friday, Hostess did. The flag at a Hostess plant in Rocky Mount hung at half staff on Friday afternoon, and many former workers there hung around outside to talk about what had happened.

Hostess had offered an 8 percent pay cut, but Phllips said that wasn’t going to work for the employees.

“We’re not making a whole lot of money out here and then we got to take a pay cut like that. Then you got your health benefits going up,” he said. “They stopped paying into the pension fund. ….

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: epicfail; jobs; karma; layoffs; losers; northcarolina; obama; obamacare
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To: Rebelbase

“HA! About half of those simply hired.com job postings are duplicates for “oven operator” and a lot of them are for “oven helper”.”

They could go work at McDonald’s and be a Hamburger Helper.


101 posted on 11/16/2012 3:24:21 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: funfan

“Instead of speculating about the Execs screwing the poor
little workers why don’t you do some reasearch and find out.
I am sure it is public record what they were paid and don’t you think if that was the case the MSM would be plastering it all over the air waves?”

Because I don’t care enough one way or the other to research it. Everybody else on this thread seemed to be speculating wildly in favor of the poor abused Hostess company. I just thought a little balance was called for.

Probably the labor force sucked. Probably management sucked just as much.
Paying the work force is part of doing business, if they can’t do that and still stay open....well the market has spoken huh?


102 posted on 11/16/2012 3:24:46 PM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: The Duke
In other news, former Hostess employees today were awarded 18,500 Darwin Awards.

Not 18,500, just 5,000. There were half a dozen unions who had already accepted the deal, the Bakers were holding out.

Klew: If the Teamsters looks at the situation and agrees to a pay cut, maybe your strike is a kamikaze.

103 posted on 11/16/2012 3:24:52 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (A vague disclaimer is nobody's friend)
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To: snarkybob

Hey SNARKY.... Explain why the Teamsters told the Bakers to take it?

Take your time as you gather your thoughts.


104 posted on 11/16/2012 3:27:22 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: tobyhill
“We’re not making a whole lot of money out here and then we got to take a pay cut like that. Then you got your health benefits going up,” he said."

Health costs going up? Now why would that be?


105 posted on 11/16/2012 3:28:25 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: tobyhill

Oh no!

It is almost Chrismas, and now we will have no Hostess HO Hos!

Mabye the Union hacks who lost their jobs will get Christmas HO HOs from Santa Bama. Or maybe just Christmas Hos. “Swipe my EBT, Ho.”


106 posted on 11/16/2012 3:28:48 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Pray to God. Apologize to your children.)
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To: snarkybob

One more thing, under UNION RULES Twinkies and Wonder Bread could NOT be delivered by the same route!!

Take your time as you gather your thoughts!!


107 posted on 11/16/2012 3:30:00 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: eyedigress

“Hey SNARKY.... Explain why the Teamsters told the Bakers to take it?
Take your time as you gather your thoughts.”

I already said I didn’t research it...but...if I had to guess why, Id say the Teamsters got a better bribe than the bakers. Or possibly the teamster boss got a better kickback.


108 posted on 11/16/2012 3:30:32 PM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: eyedigress
Explain why the Teamsters told the Bakers to take it?

Clearly, they're part of the EEEEEEeeeeevil, repressive anti-worker conspiracy. Duh.

Seriously. You're drilling a dry well, here. You do know that, right...? ;)

109 posted on 11/16/2012 3:32:43 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: mvpel
Ten percent of nothing is—let me do the math here. Nothing into nothin'. Carry the nothin'...

You and Jethro Bodine are learnin' to cipher real good. Wahoo!

110 posted on 11/16/2012 3:33:10 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: tobyhill

North Carolina needs to make sure these economic terrorists do NOT get unemployment benefits for destroying a company and thousands of jobs.


111 posted on 11/16/2012 3:34:45 PM PST by montag813
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To: eyedigress

“One more thing, under UNION RULES Twinkies and Wonder Bread could NOT be delivered by the same route!!
Take your time as you gather your thoughts!!”

So the Teamsters did get a better bribe with double the routes. That’s probably why they urged the bakers to take a paycut huh?


112 posted on 11/16/2012 3:34:54 PM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: snarkybob

No, my misinformed one. The teamsters saw the books and the company was not viable. Chapter 13 was inevitable.

The idiots are the bakers that caused 18,900 direct and untold thousands indirect job losses.

Good luck getting a job at Little Debbie.


113 posted on 11/16/2012 3:39:14 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: tobyhill

I have never seen the actual numbers but I understand unemployment compensation plus other benefits that go with it would exceed what they are making. My same source said Massachusetts pays the most - anyone have a link to the amounts, state by state?


114 posted on 11/16/2012 3:39:37 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: tobyhill

I sure hope that none of Lamont’s 18,000 fellow *former* employees track him down and administer some severe revolutionary justice.That would break my ******* heart.


115 posted on 11/16/2012 3:40:18 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: snarkybob

These rules have been in place for many years. You are a very young Robert.


116 posted on 11/16/2012 3:40:58 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: tobyhill

“”Then you got your health benefits going up,” he said.””

Hmmm - wouldn’t that be a good thing? Who wouldn’t want their BENEFITS to go up?


117 posted on 11/16/2012 3:41:39 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: tobyhill

I am suprised in a way. The Teamsters agreed to the deal. In the old days, the Teamsters would have cracked a few heads to get the others on board.


118 posted on 11/16/2012 3:45:01 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

indeed. your state makes me want to look in to the costs of moving my house about 45 miles east of here.


119 posted on 11/16/2012 3:45:38 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: eyedigress

“No, my misinformed one. The teamsters saw the books and the company was not viable. Chapter 13 was inevitable.”

So the Teamsters let the Wonder Bread and the Twinkies go on the same route then?
You just said they didn’t.
Let me reiterate, I don’t care....at all. I don’t eat Twinkies and I don’t Live in Rocky Mount.

I just thought the thread needed some balance to the evil union blessed management posts.


120 posted on 11/16/2012 3:45:47 PM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: tobyhill

A great Abbot and Costello clip on loafing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_TGQ7rGL-Q&sns=em


121 posted on 11/16/2012 3:45:56 PM PST by voicereason (The RNC is the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

It gets better.. I recently unfriended someone on FB that is in a union. His union has been playing a game with most of their work force.

Get um a gig that lasts at least 15 weeks and 1 day... Then put them back on unemployment. When it’s about to run out, back to work for 15 weeks and a day.

They have been doing this for 4 years and he’s happy to sit on his ass and play xbox..

His gloating on election day was enough for him to get kicked off my friends list.


122 posted on 11/16/2012 3:48:05 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: cripplecreek

Slow and steady stops the rising tide of Socialism! :)


123 posted on 11/16/2012 3:50:20 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: GBA

The unions have scab lists from decades ago that are still referred to in the airline business.

Nonunion workers should be on another list for prospective employers. The striking workers need to be completely shunned.

The Twinkie workers will see their and their families’ quality of life plummet. They will be in for quite a shock.


124 posted on 11/16/2012 3:50:40 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: tobyhill

Now that there is nothing over this jackass’s head he will be able to hold it high while standing in line to collect his unemployment chits.


125 posted on 11/16/2012 3:51:06 PM PST by Big Mack (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat VEGETABLES!)
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To: voicereason
Mystery Science Theater 300: "Out of the Blue."

A strange little sales promo about an Angel (White) and a devil (Red) who have a bet over a particular bread salesman, on whether he stays a good salesman or can be influenced to do evil (i.e. be lazy and not try to push the bread). ;)

126 posted on 11/16/2012 3:51:06 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: cableguymn

Do it! We need more Patriot boots on the ground! :)


127 posted on 11/16/2012 3:51:24 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: snarkybob

The Teamsters agreed to the cut. The bakers didn’t.

The rules about hostess deliveries have been known for years.

Nothing more to worry. Take your obamaphone, your pension is shot.


128 posted on 11/16/2012 3:53:30 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: pgkdan

it is only 26 weeks of unemployment and the states will have to do job retraining because of the number of employees throughout too many states that the states are now required to do retraining (the tax payers pick up the cost).

due to the nature of the company in bankrupcy the bills owed by the company that result in its liquidation of assets will cause for many people to lose many of the benfits icluding matching funds, healthcare and other benefis that may have not been lost already. Odd there were only 3 plants closed, an additional 30 plants will close.


129 posted on 11/16/2012 3:53:30 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: tobyhill

Yeah, what me worry? I am sure there are 18,500 jobs to easily come by in Rocky Mount...not.


130 posted on 11/16/2012 3:53:48 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: tobyhill

I guess this noodle head thinks all of the nearly 19,000 folks are going to find it easy to find new jobs.

I feel for any conservatives in the bunch, but for the rest... LMAO.

It warms my heart to see those that actually helped vote Obama into office getting consequences.... the more the better.


131 posted on 11/16/2012 3:56:08 PM PST by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: eyedigress
One more thing, under UNION RULES Twinkies and Wonder Bread could NOT be delivered by the same route!!
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I have heard that, but I don't understand that complaint. I know that the snack routes are independent operators, so the company doesn't pay for trucks or gas anyway. The bread routes are the ones that are all company employees with company vehicles.

However, they might be referring to the delivery to the distribution centers instead of the actual delivery to the stores.

132 posted on 11/16/2012 3:57:10 PM PST by kara37
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To: eyedigress

“The Teamsters agreed to the cut. The bakers didn’t.
The rules about hostess deliveries have been known for years.
Nothing more to worry. Take your obamaphone, your pension is shot.”

My pension isn’t tied to bakers...butchers either and don’t even get me started on the candlestick makers..
You seem to be overly emotional about this. Were you in middle management with Hostess?


133 posted on 11/16/2012 3:57:40 PM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: elpadre

“”My same source said Massachusetts pays the most - anyone have a link to the amounts, state by state?””

Good question. You can google each state I suppose. The state maximum benefit in Massachusetts, effective October 7, 2012, is $674 per week..

I had thought that CA had the highest which is $450/per week...max benefit. I would be surprised if any state could beat MA.


134 posted on 11/16/2012 3:58:06 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
why not start up with the same products (they OWN those trademarks, correct?) under a slightly different name as a NON-Union shop? I would, but then, I’m kinda vindictive that way, LOL!

The creditors of the company might have something to say about that....

Someone will buy those trademarks from the bankruptcy court and continue making Twinkies (and no doubt it will be in a non-union shop) but it won't be the present corporation or any of its owners.

135 posted on 11/16/2012 3:58:15 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: tobyhill

Don’t forget the slimelicker who set out to manufacture a news story with a political agenda http://www2.nbc17.com/staff/52705/


136 posted on 11/16/2012 3:58:56 PM PST by wolficatZ (Traitors, every one of 'em.)
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To: tobyhill
“We’re not making a whole lot of money out here and then we got to take a pay cut like that. Then you got your health benefits going up,” he said. “They stopped paying into the pension fund. ….


137 posted on 11/16/2012 4:01:02 PM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: tobyhill

Per the article, “...the state will have to decide if the former Hostess workers qualify for unemployment benefits. “

If they get even one nickel of benefits the governor should be recalled.


138 posted on 11/16/2012 4:01:14 PM PST by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: Kozak
So now you got 100%, of nothing....

Au contraire my friend. Now he has 100% of a secure government job, welfare!

139 posted on 11/16/2012 4:01:14 PM PST by varon (11-06-2012 dob United Socialist Ghettos of America (USGA))
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To: tobyhill
“Our plan is to find another job. We have unemployment, but nobody wants unemployment without the health benefits. So, we’re pretty much going to find another job.”

And that, my friends, is why welfare reform works.

140 posted on 11/16/2012 4:01:24 PM PST by ShadowDancer ("Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong.")
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To: snarkybob

One story I’d read said that the Teamsters were shown the books, went through them with their own accountants, and told the bakers that no, Hostess wasn’t kidding or bluffing, they really were broke. They’re a slightly smarter grade of parasite - when smacked in the face a few times with the proof, they eventually accepted it. After all, if the host company dies, they lose their income from the workers there.


141 posted on 11/16/2012 4:01:53 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: cripplecreek

They don’t have to work now. Obama’s gonna take care of them. /s


142 posted on 11/16/2012 4:01:56 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: varon

send them all to law school
they can fill those 15,000 IRS agent enforcers for Obamacare


143 posted on 11/16/2012 4:03:03 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

hey diana let us know what is happening in Madistan, with many changes in employment going around the country how is Madistan holding up. There is the big bakery in Sun prairie just of 151. what about WPS in Madistan near the beltline? how is the state home for the developmentally disabled is it still open or what. It has been a few years since I have been back to the god forsaken place. when I graduated in early 2000, i fleed Madistan as fast as I could. worked for a time in Milwaukee area till i moved up to the UP of Michigan to have my own business.


144 posted on 11/16/2012 4:04:01 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: COBOL2Java

"Forget it, Jake. It's HostessTown."

145 posted on 11/16/2012 4:04:35 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Rebelbase

Why are you talking to yourself?


146 posted on 11/16/2012 4:04:35 PM PST by ShadowDancer ("Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong.")
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To: tobyhill
"Then you got your health benefits going up" he said.

There's another dumb thing you did. You voted for Obomba. That's why the health care premiums are going through the roof.

147 posted on 11/16/2012 4:05:19 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Cut the cable today!)
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To: cripplecreek

Lamont..... must be Amish.


148 posted on 11/16/2012 4:06:03 PM PST by X-spurt (It is time for OFF YOUR FEET and on the gravy-train)
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To: elpadre

Here you go! Some surprises (to me) here. MA could go as high as 900+ per week benefit from this info.

http://fileunemployment.org/unemployment-benefits-comparison-by-state


149 posted on 11/16/2012 4:09:33 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: cripplecreek

I know the Hostess Outlet here was picked clean today and apparently the workers were surlier than usual.


150 posted on 11/16/2012 4:12:28 PM PST by ShadowDancer ("Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong.")
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