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Rasmussen: 54% now call themselves pro-choice, 38% pro-life
Hot Air ^ | November 15, 2012 | Allahpundit

Posted on 11/16/2012 1:14:40 PM PST by JerseyanExile

Wait a sec, you say. Didn’t Gallup find just six months ago that the number who describe themselves as “pro-choice” was at a record low? Indeed they did.

But as the saying goes, my friends: Elections have consequences.

More voters than ever now identify themselves as pro-choice when it comes to abortion, and most rate the issue as important to how they vote.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely U.S. Voters shows that 54% describe themselves as pro-choice on the issue of abortion, while 38% say they are pro-life.

Let’s look at trends on abortion in a few recent polls. This one, from a WSJ poll in mid-October, isn’t too helpful because the only point of reference is data from March 2005. Even so, there’s a shift:

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This, from a CNN poll taken in late August, is much more revealing:

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Nice and steady there in the mid-20s for “legal under any circumstances” over the past five years — until suddenly, in August of this year, the number jumps. Why? Well, what else happened in August this year? Right: Todd Akin opened his yapper about “legitimate rape” and women’s supposed biological defense mechanisms against it and that was the beginning of the end for Republican chances to take back the Senate. How big a deal was it? Weeks later, the NYT poll was seeing more support for the idea that abortion should be “generally available” than it had in over 15 years:

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The first column shows those who want abortion generally available, the second column shows those who think it should be available with stricter limits. Follow the last link and check the data and you’ll find that the last time “generally available” hit 42% was February 1995. Some of the movement may be due to Democrats’ relentless “war on women” messaging independent of Akin, but Akin was the rocket fuel they needed for it, I think. Nothing strange about that, really: Sentiments about abortion can shift quite sharply based on recent political circumstances. Remember what happened in Gallup’s polling on this subject shortly after O was inaugurated in 2009? Right — there was a sudden leap in the number who describe themselves as “pro-life,” to the point where it overtook “pro-choice” for the first time ever. That was mainly a reaction, I think, from abortion fencesitters who suddenly worried that O and his Democratic Congress might try to expand abortion rights too far. You’re seeing the opposite play out now with Akin, I suspect. Between him and Mourdock, fencesitters are alarmed at what they’re hearing about rape and are identifying as pro-choice to signal their opposition. That’ll level off in time, but it’s proof positive that Republicans lost more than just Senate seats when they said what they said. People who claimed that two inadvertently did damage to their own socially conservative cause weren’t kidding.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; abortion; prolife; prolifevote; trends

1 posted on 11/16/2012 1:14:44 PM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile

This show we need to get much better at fighting the fear porn that comes from the left, especially the media.


2 posted on 11/16/2012 1:16:36 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: JerseyanExile

Cowardly RINO surrender monkeys caving in?

Abortion is infanticide!! Mass murder!! The American Holocaust!!

Never surrender to godless socialist butchers!!


3 posted on 11/16/2012 1:19:51 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: JerseyanExile

BS


4 posted on 11/16/2012 1:20:08 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: JerseyanExile

How did Rasmussen do on November 6?


5 posted on 11/16/2012 1:20:16 PM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Conservatives need to find a way to battle the MSM, that is what this shows. Somehow,someway we need to neutralize the state run media.


6 posted on 11/16/2012 1:21:02 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: JerseyanExile

The only thing that will work is for more young people to see graphic pictures of aborted fetuses.


7 posted on 11/16/2012 1:21:05 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: JerseyanExile

A country that does not value new life above the petty laziness of its existing leeches does not deserve to continue.


8 posted on 11/16/2012 1:22:16 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: JerseyanExile

I don’t buy it. What do they mean by “Pro-Choice”? The poll is only as good as its definitions for the terms.

Many people are “Pro-Life”, but if pressed by strangers saying “Does that mean you want raped women and victims of incest to suffer?”, then they get skittish and back off.

Most Americans think abortions should be regulated and controlled, anything that says otherwise is a push poll.


9 posted on 11/16/2012 1:27:14 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: JerseyanExile
Will the RINO elite now start telling us to move towards the middle-left on abortion too? Well screw that! Principles have no regard for polls.

We will not cave, we will not surrender and we will not negotiate the terms of our enslavement.

How any person could support, fanatically, the right to slaughter babies is simply beyond comprehension. The hand of the devil sits heavily on America.

10 posted on 11/16/2012 1:28:01 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

The “Sandra Fluke” effect? ping.


11 posted on 11/16/2012 1:38:37 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: JerseyanExile
This is an election effect, I doubt it will persist after the agitated partisanship dies down some. In the feverish atmosphere of the campaign, the issue becomes a surrogate for the candidate. Obama voters endorse Obama positions without even thinking that they may be going against their underlying beliefs. It happens all the time.

It does appear to have sunk Akin, though, which is too bad for us.

12 posted on 11/16/2012 1:39:40 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: GeronL

I agree. Our biggest problem is long term indoctrination by schools and the MSM. We have to find alternate ways of at least getting these brainwashed people to question what they have been taught. We need to make it cool to rebel against the establishment and vote republican.


13 posted on 11/16/2012 1:44:47 PM PST by plain talk
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To: JerseyanExile

Rasmussen polled a Romney win. Can’t trust Rasmussen.


14 posted on 11/16/2012 2:16:38 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

“How any person could support, fanatically, the right to slaughter babies is simply beyond comprehension.”

Oftentimes these same people will squawk fanatically and loudly for the protection of animals, especially wildlife.

I care for animals, but they are not and never will be above humans.

Babies, born and unborn, are to be protected above all.


15 posted on 11/16/2012 2:16:42 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: JerseyanExile

The Republican Party running a famously, pro-abortion candidate,

who rejected the party’s pro-life platform on national TV on August 27, 2012,

hurt the pro-life movement.


16 posted on 11/16/2012 2:30:01 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Ingtar

How did Rasmussen do on November 6?


Good point. He lost a lot of credibility with his state calls


17 posted on 11/16/2012 3:00:41 PM PST by patriotspride
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To: JerseyanExile

We’re all baby killers now. Me! Me! Me!


18 posted on 11/16/2012 3:18:13 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We need Comprehensive Election Reform, NOW!)
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To: JerseyanExile

Ras is trying to drum up business with Satanists and baby killers. I guess $23 million in his Nazi bank account isn’t enough. (I made that number up. It could be lower or higher. It’s my estimate.)


19 posted on 11/16/2012 3:42:53 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: JerseyanExile

The polls that tell us America is more conservative than liberal keep rolling on.

The polls that tell us Americans oppose most abortions keep rolling on.

The polls that tell us Americans are more pro-life than pro-choice keep rolling on.

But when Americans voted on Noveember 2 they voted the opposite way - again.


20 posted on 11/16/2012 3:47:55 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: Ingtar
How did Rasmussen do on November 6?

Rasmussen did fine. Don't shoot the messenger.

21 posted on 11/16/2012 4:22:50 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: BfloGuy

Rasmussen did not do fine. He was wrong.


22 posted on 11/16/2012 4:25:49 PM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: JerseyanExile

I thought we were moving in the other direction on this issue? WTH is happening to this country? Whatever it is, it’s at warp speed.


23 posted on 11/16/2012 4:29:51 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: riri

Most of the people in this country believe what ever ad that they see. Advertising is powerful.


24 posted on 11/16/2012 4:33:22 PM PST by Chickensoup
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To: Ingtar
How did Rasmussen do on November 6?

How did the pro-life movement do on November 6?

25 posted on 11/16/2012 7:00:13 PM PST by Drew68
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To: riri
Hello,

You are right, things are moving so fast, moving toward a dark place....I could say more but “dark place” pretty much sums it up..

MOgirl

26 posted on 11/16/2012 7:21:07 PM PST by MOgirl (STAND)
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To: JerseyanExile
Please Pray for the Unborn
 
Let God's will be done!
 
Allow all babies
in the womb to live!
 
 

27 posted on 11/16/2012 7:24:54 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Shadow44
The poll is only as good as its definitions for the terms.

Exactly. Ask Americans if they consider themselves pro-life and a majority will answer yes. Ask Americans if they think abortion should be illegal and a majority will answer no. So what we have is a majority of Americans who would not themselves get an abortion but don't necessarily believe it should not be an option. The classic "I'm totally pro-life (until something really bad happens that I didn't plan for and then I'll be glad I can do something about it).

28 posted on 11/16/2012 9:16:44 PM PST by Drew68
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To: hinckley buzzard

Um, did you forget about Mourdock? Akins half retarded sep-brother from different mothers ? They truly snatched defeat from the jaws of victory and made Republicans look really bad.


29 posted on 11/16/2012 9:39:51 PM PST by tartar1000
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To: Drew68; All
How did the pro-life movement do on November 6?

Horrific. For perhaps the first time, it encouraged pro-life voters to vote for an open pro-abort, Mitt Romney. No wonder the article says "elections have consequences" and 54% now identify as pro-abortion.

30 posted on 11/17/2012 5:31:05 AM PST by Colofornian (“...those outside the Church who say Lds do not believe in the traditional Christ. No I don't."-GH)
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To: riri; All
I thought we were moving in the other direction on this issue? WTH is happening to this country? Whatever it is, it’s at warp speed.

You have to be joking.

Romney announced in late August that his position on abortion wasn't much different than Roe vs. Wade -- allowing for the wide-open exception of "health" of the mother (a loop hole that can mean almost anything...with the abortionist determining that).

In Dec of 07 Romney made a "pro-choice" statement to Katie Couric, saying that parents of embryos could either give them up for adoption -- OR to "research."

So, coercing MILLIONS of pro-life voters to vote for the first time for such a pro-abort, many crossed a bridge and aren't looking back.

31 posted on 11/17/2012 5:34:39 AM PST by Colofornian (“...those outside the Church who say Lds do not believe in the traditional Christ. No I don't."-GH)
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To: Shadow44; All
Many people are “Pro-Life”, but if pressed by strangers saying “Does that mean you want raped women and victims of incest to suffer?”, then they get skittish and back off.

(Or when pressed by fear-mongers to vote for an open pro-abort like Mitt, then they get skittish about their pro-life convictions, back off, and forever are lost to holding their candidates' pro-abortion posturing to the fire)

32 posted on 11/17/2012 5:37:14 AM PST by Colofornian (“...those outside the Church who say Lds do not believe in the traditional Christ. No I don't."-GH)
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To: Colofornian
You have to be joking.

Nope. not joking. I don't pay too close of attention to this issue but it has always seemed I kept hearing "for the first time, more Americans consider themselves pro-life, etc. when polled etc.

I attributed it to new technologies that show earlier and earlier that this is, indeed, a baby and not a "clump of cells".

Now, I am led to think that people know it is a baby and still think it's OK to kill it. Pretty dark place we are headed.

33 posted on 11/17/2012 7:36:01 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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