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‘It’s a crisis for Québec women’ (socialized medicine fails)
Montréal Gazette ^ | November 13, 2012 | Charlie Fidelman

Posted on 11/14/2012 10:38:12 PM PST by Olog-hai

Surgery wait times for deadly ovarian, cervical and breast cancers in Québec are three times longer than government benchmarks, leading some desperate patients to shop around for an operating room. But that’s a waste of time, doctors say, since the problem is spread across Québec hospitals. And doctors are refusing to accept new patients quickly because they can’t treat them, health advocates say. …

The worst cases are gynecological cancers, experts say, because usually such a cancer has already spread by the time it is detected. Instead of four weeks from diagnosis to surgery, patients are waiting as long as three months to have cancerous growths removed.

“It’s a crisis for Québec women,” said Lucy Gilbert, director of gynecological oncology and the gynecologic cancer multi-disciplinary team at the McGill University Health Center. Her team has had access to operating rooms only two days a week for the past year, with dozens of patients having surgeries postponed week after week. …

(Excerpt) Read more at montrealgazette.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: cancer; healthcare; quebec; women

1 posted on 11/14/2012 10:38:16 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

SOunds like WAR ON WOMEN....soon coming to USA!


2 posted on 11/14/2012 10:41:28 PM PST by entropy12 (3 new SCOTUS appointments by Obama will ensure killing of unborn for next 30 years)
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To: Olog-hai

Sebilius drools over this, so does Holdren. Die humans, die!


3 posted on 11/14/2012 10:42:31 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Olog-hai

I guess this is what happens when you vote with your lady parts.


4 posted on 11/14/2012 11:10:53 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Olog-hai

If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it’s free.
- P.J. O’Rourke


5 posted on 11/14/2012 11:12:25 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
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To: Olog-hai

Ladies, come to the USA and get treated! Oh, wait a second...never mind.../sarcasm


6 posted on 11/14/2012 11:37:25 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Frank_2001

Took my aunt over a year to get a deviated septum done. She could have rented an apartment by me, and by the time the ink was dry on the paper, had the surgery.


7 posted on 11/14/2012 11:42:13 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The goal is to equalize outcomes based on race without regard for performance or merit.)
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To: Olog-hai

Collectivism’s end game is population reduction, by the billions.

Like drinking antifreeze, it tastes good.


8 posted on 11/14/2012 11:45:14 PM PST by lurk
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To: entropy12

You don’t know the half of it that’s not being reported. Even my aunt in Saskatchewan waited 4 months for an effing MRI.


9 posted on 11/14/2012 11:46:17 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: lurk

But that reduced population must still support all the goodies the freeloaders demand.


10 posted on 11/15/2012 12:39:34 AM PST by monocle
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To: Olog-hai

Oh well gals, you voted for it.


11 posted on 11/15/2012 2:47:08 AM PST by gotribe
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To: max americana
Even my aunt in Saskatchewan waited 4 months for an effing MRI.

I was doing some info gathering to combat the lies of Obamacare a leftist loon I play softball with keeps telling.

One of the tidbits I found on MRI's, (you know, those machines your orthopedist wants to have you examined by sometime next week because you hurt your shoulder) is that in the province of Ontario, as of 2011, there were approx. 80 machines with a waiting time of about 208 days. Where I live in S.E. Michigan, there's probably that many within a 20 mile radius of me and I can have a scan done within a week.......

12 posted on 11/15/2012 3:06:08 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Olog-hai

Drink deep, ladies...welcome to Jonestown.


13 posted on 11/15/2012 3:14:26 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Olog-hai

Those that have political connections don’t wait to die.

That is what socialism is all about, power.


14 posted on 11/15/2012 3:25:56 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Olog-hai

You folks have it wrong. ObamaCare singles out a handful of diseases and conditions for special emphasis. Breast cancer and cervical cancer are two of them.

Now my friends with prostate cancer and my wife with myeloma are screwed. But, hey, as a Progressive friend said to me “Sacrifices have to be made.”


15 posted on 11/15/2012 4:08:42 AM PST by Makana
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To: Hot Tabasco

Here’s the story..all of it.

OTTAWA — Eastern Ontarians, particularly the walking wounded, are waiting longer for MRIs than they did three years ago even though the region has acquired three new machines to do more scans.
Officials are quick to point out that the patients who are waiting the longest are not those with life-threatening conditions such as cancer, heart disease or brain disorders. Rather, they are patients with back pain or muscle injuries.

“What we’re talking about here are people who don’t have conditions that need to be scanned urgently,”

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/health/With+delays+worst+province+eastern+Ontario+tries+clear+backlog/7251302/story.html#ixzz2CICkYoJW


16 posted on 11/15/2012 4:20:36 AM PST by Snowyman
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To: Olog-hai
I'm making up a bumper sticker, "Democrats Deserve Obamacare."

If I get any more PO'd, it'll be, "Democrats Deserve Death Panels."

17 posted on 11/15/2012 4:21:09 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Snowyman
“What we’re talking about here are people who don’t have conditions that need to be scanned urgently,”

I find it not surprising that the only MRI machines are in hospital medical facilities.

Here they're privatized and readily available to anyone regardless of the severity of injury or illness. In fact, one such group called Basha Diagnostics actually advertises their services on local TV.

4 years ago I injured my shoulder playing softball, two days later I was able to see my orthopedist who prescribed an MRI and 5 days after that I had the MRI at a private facility about 2 miles away.......When I called to make the appointment they asked me "what time is convenient for you, morning or afternoon...?"

18 posted on 11/15/2012 4:46:42 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Olog-hai
The worst cases are gynecological cancers, experts say, because usually such a cancer has already spread by the time it is detected.

That's what happens when you eliminate diagnostic tests (Pap smears, mammograms) to save money, and when the system "treats" all menstrual dysfunction or other reproductive-system problems with birth control pills.

"Sorry you're dying, ladies, but this is what Fairness looks like."

19 posted on 11/15/2012 4:56:21 AM PST by Tax-chick (Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
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To: Snowyman

As a side note, all the guys I play softball with are over 55 and many of them have had knee and hip replacements and virtually all of them had a choice of when to have their procedures done. Usually at the end of the season so they could use the winter to recover.......


20 posted on 11/15/2012 4:57:23 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Olog-hai

Yeah but - if you survive the cancer you’ll get free birth control pills.

As my lib friends like to say....GOBAMA!


21 posted on 11/15/2012 4:57:32 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: max americana

Thats coming to America.


22 posted on 11/15/2012 5:08:01 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Olog-hai
My father was a pastor when I was growing up mostly in fly over country, but also in Virginia and Maryland. For all of the time I have memory, the church assisted people from Canada who needed medical treatment: gathered funding, provided housing and transportation etc. There was a steady stream of Canadians passing through our churches - often several individuals at the same time. It wasn't just my father's churches, it was/is a program supported by the entire denomination.

I grew up thinking Canada must have third world medicine.

My sister-in-law who is a Canadian born and a RN, brought her mom here to be treated for cancer. The wait for surgery was going to be almost six months.

My mom immigrated from Great Britain. We kept in touch with cousins and other relatives over the years. I can tell you that the treatment available to my mom was in stark contrast to that available to her cousins of the same age. My mom saw the doctor once a month. Her cousins saw the doctor once a year maybe. Common medications that made my mom's life more comfortable and extended her life were simply not available to her cousins.

I know our medical system has its warts but it is still much better than what is available in Canada and Great Britain.

23 posted on 11/15/2012 5:19:22 AM PST by Roses0508
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To: Olog-hai
“It’s a crisis for Québec women,”

Probably those same women who voted in the current government. There are some drawbacks to the freeloader society, eh? (speaking Canadian) The same sort of freeloader society that we can look forward to in this country as the government tramples our God given rights here on the way from freedom to complete national socialism. Heil 0bama.

24 posted on 11/15/2012 5:20:33 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Snowyman
Rather, they are patients with back pain or muscle injuries.

“What we’re talking about here are people who don’t have conditions that need to be scanned urgently,”

Dude never had back pain, I take it.

Doncha love bureaucrats?

Thanks for Obamacare, moonbats.

25 posted on 11/15/2012 5:27:47 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Tax-chick
That is exactly right. The Government Guidelines have already been issued to the health insurance companies. No mammograms until age 50. No Pap smears after age 65 unless you have ‘symptoms’ . The reason women over age 65 survive Gyn cancers is because cancer cells shed well before there are obvious symptoms. Once post menopausal bleeding is noticed, the cancer is usually pretty well advanced. But once you are past the age of paying into the Nationalized Healthcare system, you are expendable. Sometimes a Death Panel isn't even needed to ‘reduce’ the number of people that need healthcare. Remember what Pelosi said. ‘Americans over age 55 use entirely too much of our healthcare resources’. But you are right, those in power get healthcare no matter their advancing age.
26 posted on 11/15/2012 5:37:34 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: originalbuckeye

nobamacare: Stay healthy or DIE!


27 posted on 11/15/2012 6:05:28 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: originalbuckeye
Sometimes a Death Panel isn't even needed to ‘reduce’ the number of people that need healthcare.

They can eliminate whole swathes of the 40-60 age bracket by cutting diagnostic tests (including colonoscopy) and then putting people on the waiting list for treatment when the cancers become obvious. For both these reasons, cancer survival rates in the U.S. are two or three times those of advanced countries with socialized medical systems.

28 posted on 11/15/2012 8:44:42 AM PST by Tax-chick (Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
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To: Olog-hai; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...

Canada Ping!


29 posted on 11/15/2012 12:20:52 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Olog-hai; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...

Canada Ping!


30 posted on 11/15/2012 12:43:32 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Actually there are several private MRI clinics in many of the provinces. The article is talking about OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance Plan). If you want one done privately , outside of OHIP , you can get one in a day or two. But you’re going to pay for it out of your own pocket.


31 posted on 11/15/2012 3:48:55 PM PST by Snowyman
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To: Snowyman
Actually there are several private MRI clinics in many of the provinces

"Several" within an entire province? That ain't very many .

32 posted on 11/15/2012 3:54:13 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Olog-hai

United States women are next - and since they voted for Obama, they deserve their fate... On a lighter brighter note, they’re going to get FREEEEEEEE Birth Control... for all those Jennifer Flower types out there who service dem elites...


33 posted on 11/15/2012 4:10:27 PM PST by GOPJ (Petraeus confession: like something from a 'Soviet purge trial'....)
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To: hal ogen

And Alan Grayson, Mr. Die Quickly, just got voted back in thanks to FL redistricting. Guess he’s going to have to eat his words . . .


34 posted on 11/15/2012 5:35:12 PM PST by Olog-hai
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