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Ominous futures this morning. Are companies 'Going Galt'?
The Washington Times ^ | November 13, 2012 | Terry Ponick

Posted on 11/13/2012 11:45:35 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The futures don’t look so hot this morning before the opening bell. As of 8:50 a.m. EST, Dow futures are down nearly 70 points. S&P and NASDAQ futures look pretty much as bad, down nearly 9 and 20 points respectively.

While yesterday’s action seemed relatively benign, it wasn’t, as lots of sectors were getting hammered but, due to low semi-holiday volume, this wasn’t readily apparent. Our utilities got hit so hard we had to exit via percentage stops, and we’ll probably need to pare back what energy and banking issues we still have today.

The “fiscal cliff” again is the looming issue on the front burner. Euro-instability doesn’t help, either. But one other thing that’s begun to surface—after the election of course—is the inevitable resumption of the Democrats’ twin pincer movement on American businesses and employees. And those are, should you need a reminder, the Administration’s continuing War on Coal, in the context of its War on Fossil Fuels; and the looming effects of Obamacare on business bottom lines.

As we’ve already mentioned, utilities are getting smithereened, this in spite of spectacular yields. Prior to this, coal stocks took a beating. All this negative activity is tied in with the War on Coal, waged somewhat by proxy by EPA rulemaking regulators run amok. Although the once burning issue of “global warming” “climate change” has in our view been completely discredited by the academic world’s collective “email-gate,” the Warmists are proceeding ahead anyway toward a utopia where energy is produced by anything but fossil fuels at a cost nobody except the leftist utopian masters can afford...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: coal; economy; energy; obama; utilities

1 posted on 11/13/2012 11:45:38 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Guess these business guys shouldn’t have backed Obama.

Oh well.

Go pay your taxes - the moochers need the money. :)


2 posted on 11/13/2012 11:51:02 AM PST by Tzimisce (Will there be anything to fight for in 2016?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In before the idiots that will tell you this isn’t “going Galt” because it’s not exactly like Rand’s book.


4 posted on 11/13/2012 11:56:01 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Didn't they hear? 0bama won.

It's time to punish the rich.

5 posted on 11/13/2012 11:57:36 AM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anybody who has ever raised a kid knows how this works...you can tell them til your blue in the face about how bad the consequences will be if they make bad choices, but in the end they always seem to have to learn it the hard way.

This nation has just touched the hot stove...


6 posted on 11/13/2012 11:58:06 AM PST by bigbob
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To: SaxxonWoods

Well, there is a limit to self sufficient hidden valleys in Colorado and inexhaustible free energy motors.


7 posted on 11/13/2012 11:58:27 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I’m forging Rearden metal plowshares for bartering as fast as I can.


9 posted on 11/13/2012 12:00:11 PM PST by BipolarBob (As long as Bronco Bawma is in office I'm on strike.)
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To: mojito
It's time to punish the rich.

Only the rich that didn't support Baraq.

10 posted on 11/13/2012 12:00:19 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

“Well, there is a limit to self sufficient hidden valleys in Colorado and inexhaustible free energy motors.”

Indeed, and those valley dwellers have to concoct SRBMs capable of taking out the non-producing pestilences in Denver and Boulder (especially Boulder.)

Then the state can lead the nation back to productivity.


11 posted on 11/13/2012 12:01:54 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think we are going to see an interesting phenomenon.

Huge dumps of stock that do not result in the stock market dropping. But how can this be?

The market indicators are based on a limited number of companies. If these companies do not move, it strongly limits how much the rest of the market can move.

So let’s say you have billions of dollars, and you can *invisibly* put money into, or take it out of the market indices.

No matter what the rest of the market did, you could at least create the illusion that nothing was happening.

Ah, you might say, but nobody could do this *invisibly*.

Well, almost nobody. The federal government and the FED can do this, with no one the wiser. Their transactions are invisible.

For much of the last four years, market volatility has been very limited. At times, volume has been relatively tiny, seemingly nobody buying or selling.

But at the same time, tens of billions of dollars of stock has been dumped by people entirely leaving the market. Under any legitimate circumstance, the indices should be half of what they are right now.

Yet the indices just sit there, for the most part. As if somebody with many billions of dollars has been buying up that stock and doing nothing with it.

Why not? After all, it’s not *their* money they are using.


12 posted on 11/13/2012 12:06:08 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: bigbob

So true, I’ve always described democrats as believing what’s up is down and what’s down is up, if you tell them not to touch the stove, it’s hot, they will.


13 posted on 11/13/2012 12:07:17 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: Da Coyote

Naw, we’ll just seed the clouds as they pass over and flood them out. ;^)


14 posted on 11/13/2012 12:07:23 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Yet the indices just sit there, for the most part.

Hasn't the S&P 500 about doubled in the last 4 yrs?

15 posted on 11/13/2012 12:10:44 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Are companies 'Going Galt'?

They should. When the slaves rebel - their masters starve.

16 posted on 11/13/2012 12:11:15 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Weepy creepy Boehner needs to send everyone in the House home for Christmas and tell Obama they’ll be back after he is inaugurated. And leave a number where Obama can leave a message.


17 posted on 11/13/2012 12:11:22 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: bigbob

Ditto


18 posted on 11/13/2012 12:13:51 PM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama certainly doesn’t mind that most of the Wall St. tax increases will come out of the hides of Jews. Incredibly, they voted for him and other Democrats as usual, totally disregarding his obvious anti-semitism. Investment houses will soon start to crumble under the hundreds of new regs in the Dodd-Franck bill.


19 posted on 11/13/2012 12:14:08 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: Enterprise
Weepy creepy Boehner needs to send everyone in the House home for Christmas and tell Obama they’ll be back after he is inaugurated. And leave a number where Obama can leave a message.

By then, every politician in the country will be on a plane and heading for some far away private island.
They won't come back until after the chaos dies down. (Then they'll be the first to remind us how they worked feverishly from their island mansions to save us - then they'll ask us for donations and our votes).

20 posted on 11/13/2012 12:20:42 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

0bama won by attacking businesses and job creators.

I took another 15% of my money out of equities.

I’m sitting this administration out. There will be no investment in the future under 0bama.


21 posted on 11/13/2012 12:23:04 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (0BAMA CHOSE to watch a MUSLIM SNUFF FILM rather than a HEROIC AMERICAN RESCUE FILM)
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To: bigbob
What a great analogy. Good catch. I'm stealing it.
BTW my dad didn't believe in that telling you not to do stuff. He said do it and see what happens. The new lawn mower’s muffler had bubbled paint as he had just finished running it the first time. I had never seen this before. “Hey is it hot?”, “touch it and see”. Wow it sure was hot and the blister on my finger reminded me to never do that again. Tough love. LOL
22 posted on 11/13/2012 12:23:04 PM PST by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: mojito

Let’s not get carried away with all this “tax the rich” talk. We need to take it easy on actors, singers and guys who bounce balls for a living - they’re the glue that holds American society together afterall.

If we penalize their contributions our humanity is at stake.


23 posted on 11/13/2012 12:29:17 PM PST by sbMKE
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

If they can game something as simple as “one man, one vote” they can certainly game a stock market that only 1 in 100 understands.


24 posted on 11/13/2012 1:07:24 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

d;^)>


25 posted on 11/13/2012 1:22:58 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: bigbob

“This nation has just touched the hot stove.”

yes but they haven’t pulled their hand off yet.


26 posted on 11/13/2012 1:24:07 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: bigbob

Nice analogy.. However.. I think it’s not quite right..

This Nation has just pulled the trigger while looking down the barrel.

There.. That fits better.


27 posted on 11/13/2012 1:35:10 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Of course they are.

Don't worry, they will be attacked soon, and nationalized.

28 posted on 11/13/2012 1:38:57 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bookmark.


29 posted on 11/13/2012 1:39:19 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Uncle Miltie; 2ndDivisionVet

” 0bama won by attacking businesses and job creators. - - - “

NO NO ! zero did NOT win ! FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD !

It is not a done deal YET ! Let’s fight this NOW ! Where we CAN !

Romney won - OBVIOUSLY ! Fight THAT battle - easier than going galt, broke, seceded, whatever.

As for weepy creepy boner, cant we scandalize him out of his JOB ? Spread it around - he is a drunkard and a womenizer. Cant someone hire a PI to trail him and find a breaking story to get rid of him ?!


30 posted on 11/13/2012 2:08:21 PM PST by PraiseTheLord (economic civil war ?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Philips, Siemens, and GE are all scaling back on their innovation figuring that they can buy that innovation for less than what it would cost them to develop it on their own. Especially in the healthcare field.


31 posted on 11/13/2012 2:15:56 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

And besides, the magic Unicorns who crap jellybeans and fart green energy will be here Real Soon Now. Emperor Bathhouse said so. . .


32 posted on 11/13/2012 2:17:34 PM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: nascarnation

I want to see 0bama cough up millions.
And Kerry
Ted Turner
Oprah
Buffett
Soros
Axelrod
Gore
Jobs’ family
Eric Schmidt
Big land and property holders
Apple
Google
Real wealth holders
Kennedys
Pelosi
Reid
McCain
The Black Caucus millionaires


33 posted on 11/13/2012 2:20:45 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: nascarnation

No but they will suffer because of those who did.

Some will suffer earlier than others.

The takers will not suffer though. They will be provided for by printed money. Inflation means nothing to them since they have nothing to start with. They only live day to day.


34 posted on 11/13/2012 2:23:30 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: Da Coyote
(especially Boulder.)

Boulder....

EWW!!
35 posted on 11/13/2012 2:41:32 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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To: PraiseTheLord
Cant someone hire a PI to trail him and find a breaking story to get rid of him ?!

Why?

We got the FBI!

Oh...Wait...

36 posted on 11/13/2012 2:53:02 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nascarnation
It's time to punish the rich.

Only the rich that didn't support Baraq.

That is not true! In fact that's another complete fallacy hammered ad nauseum by the liberal, partisan media, and in all the demoRAT socialist talking points. In 2008 election, it was estimated that 70% of so-called millionaires & above (multi-millionaires, billionaires) supported 0bama over McCain. The percentage may have gone down somewhat in the 2012 election due to some high profile business CEOs coming out for Romney, but I would wager that most of the banking & investment brokerage high rollers stayed with 0bama. The demoRATs make no secret that if you're rich and you want any consideration at all from the demoRATs in government, then you better pay big bucks to play. DemoRATs are notorious for that.

Think of the multi-million high-roller demoRAT fund raisers by George Clooney, Sarah Jessica Parker, Michael Jordan, etc.)

Think of billionaires Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, all the hi-tech company CEOs & top management, Peter Lewis, Tim Gill, etc., etc.

The Republican party is by far & away, much more of a financial, middle class, grass roots party than the demoRAT party by a long shot. Only you will never see that in the media talking points.

Also read post #33 once again for a more expanded list of demoRAT fat cats.

37 posted on 11/13/2012 3:24:37 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: concerned about politics

I agree. It’s the only explanation for every democrat voting in lock step with obama and the republicans only pretending to fight. I’ve come to the conclusion there is not one honest and/or independent member of congress. And if they’re not speaking out, their dishonest.


38 posted on 11/13/2012 8:32:06 PM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: bigbob
Folks, Anybody who has ever reared a child knows how this works...you can tell your offspring 'til you're blue in the face

about how bad the consequences will be if he or she makes bad choices, but in the end the child always seems to have to learn it the hard way.

This nation has just touched the hot stove...

Genius illustration. Borrowed and resent...

39 posted on 11/14/2012 5:13:26 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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