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Did “Ron Paul's Revolution” Stay Home Last Night? (where are 3 million missing McCain voters?)
Hill Buzz.org ^ | Kevin DuJan

Posted on 11/07/2012 4:56:42 PM PST by drewh

haven’t seen anyone ask this yet, so I will: did the Ron Paul Revolution stay home last night?

Mitt Romney won 3 million votes less than McCain while Obama lost 10 million votes of his own from 2008.

Where did those 3 million McCain voters go?

The main part of why I believed Romney would win this time because I knew the 10 million Obama supporters would sit home…but never in my worst nightmares did I imagine McCain voters would sit home. I counted on them to show up and bring friends this time to boot Obama out.

The only thing I can think of is this:

* Ron Paul supporters sat the election out because Dr. Paul because the conflict regarding the convention and the other delegate issues

* Evangelicals went through with their threat to sit home because Romney is a member of the LDS Church

And these two groups thought allowing Obama to have a second term was worth sitting home.

Is that what happened?

I never thought that was a realistic possibility because I can’t imagine ever allowing the Left to not just maintain power but actually expand their reach…but that’s what happened last night.

Have you seen anyone crunching numbers to explain this today?

The Mainsream Media Ministry of Truth will say “oh, it was all about Hispanics!” but that is a red herring. That doesn’t explain dropping three million votes below McCain and a total of five million votes from Bush in 2004.

Ron Paul supporters seem to explain that first drop from Bush’s 2004 numbers, sitting out to the tune of 2 million when McCain ran in 2008…and then sitting out even more this time; perhaps it’s a combination of Ron Paul people and Evangelicals who sat home “to teach everyone a lesson”.

That’s an expensive lesson if this is right.


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To: muawiyah

BS. The GOP gave it a good shot—the best it could do. We were just overwhelmed by the demographics. 30% of Fairfax County, the largest in the state, is foreign born. Immigrants comprise about 11% of the population in VA. Blacks are 20%. Add to that the number of government workers and the migration of liberals into the state attracted by the honeypot called the federal government and you have a state that is purple now and will trend solid blue in a decade.


61 posted on 11/07/2012 6:09:17 PM PST by kabar
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To: JRandomFreeper

Just out of curiosity, and I’m not being factitous, who would have been your “perfect” conservative candidate?


62 posted on 11/07/2012 6:09:25 PM PST by Dartman
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To: drewh

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db88.pdf explains all of it. in 4 years you will have a noticeable number of registered Republicans die. In 8 years you will really be aware of it. They mus be replaced! The numbers of missing voters demonstrate nothing more than a failure of the party managers to replenish the supply of voters!


63 posted on 11/07/2012 6:11:38 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: drewh

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db88.pdf explains all of it. in 4 years you will have a noticeable number of registered Republicans die. In 8 years you will really be aware of it. They must be replaced! The numbers of missing voters demonstrate nothing more than a failure of the party managers to replenish the supply of voters!


64 posted on 11/07/2012 6:11:57 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: BinaryBoy
So correct. We were so fragmented Mitt got nominated. Previously, McCain got nominated.
65 posted on 11/07/2012 6:12:43 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Dartman
Anyone with a PROVEN RECORD of being anti-abortion, pro-gun, anti-socialized medicine, and for reducing government. Anyone. Anyone at all.

/johnny

66 posted on 11/07/2012 6:16:28 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: IamConservative
100% of Romney's votes were Republicans. 100% of Obama's votes were Democrats.

The way it works is you build up a large group of supporters in your party and get them to show up to vote for you.

Appeals to non existent undecided moderates in the middle will lose the election every time it's tried.

67 posted on 11/07/2012 6:18:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: drewh

Perhaps we sat the election out because we found no fundamental difference between the candidates. Both support NDAA. Both support the Patriot Act. Neither supports a fully transparent audit of the Federal Reserve System. ...and on and on.

I think what it comes down to, at least for me, is that both parties bring forth no representatives (assuming they have any) who understand the Locke inspired Jeffersonian philosophy of Natural Law that informed our Constitution and served as the foundation on which this nation was built, defining the proper role of government. There are no representatives who can articulately convey independent, cogent thought. We are sick to death of empty rhetoric and platitudes. … (Deliberately) Divisive hyperbole. And being told repeatedly by a bought and paid for media that this insipid fare is what matters to us, as if should they repeat it enough we’ll become so inured that we stop thinking for ourselves and sit up and clap on cue like trained seals.

At the end of the day we are left with representatives across both sides of the fence that are ineffective, inefficient, either too dim to recognize the paradigm they are caught fast in, or in collusion with it. Both sides have betrayed the Constitution, and in so doing, us, our history, and the future.

We are starving for something more than the sales slogans that are spoon fed to us. We long for someone who understands the Federal Reserve printing money DOES devalue our currency. That we DO see the effects of that in inflation. That policing the world IS unsustainable. That borrowing money from China to GIVE to Libya (or any other country) defies any definition of sanity. That even should we tax the rich at 100%, it will NOT get us out of this hole. That this hole we are in WAS NOT created by Obama, Bush, Clinton, or Reagan. It is the product of DECADES of malfeasance.

Wow, that was way too much of a rant. I’m sorry. I guess what it boils down to is that I am sick to death of being played for a fool by representatives who possess neither integrity nor intellect. I cannot listen to another moment of a media so poorly disguised as objective and thoughtful. I can no longer play into the hands of what I can only define as evil.


68 posted on 11/07/2012 6:19:45 PM PST by softengine (Betrayal and Hypocrisy play on both sides of the fence.......but no one will admit it.)
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To: Nuc 1.1
Obama won the 18-29 vote 60%-37% and the 30-44 vote 52% to 45%. The two together comprised 46% of the total vote.

Romney won the 40-65 vote 51% to 47% and the over 65 56-44. Together they comprised 54% of the total vote. This is according to the exit polls.

IMO what was lacking was the failure to attract younger voters, the ones that watch the Dailey show, MTV, etc. where Obama has made a home. And the demographics are changing. By 2019 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities as defined by the USG. As the over 65s die out they are replaced by a cohort of Dem voters. Demography is destiny.

69 posted on 11/07/2012 6:20:19 PM PST by kabar
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To: JRandomFreeper
Seems to me like the candidate needs to earn the votes he needs. Blaming voters because they didn't vote for Romney is backwards.

BINGO!!!

BTW, there's only 2,999,997 McCain't PALIN voters left to look for......

My father, my mother, and I (NC, PA, VA - respectively) stayed home. The three of us are Evangelical Christians.

It wasn't to "show anyone a lesson," it was because some values and principles are non-negotiable. In this election ABO = SDT (Same D#mn Thing) on many key issues.

For my mother and I, it was the first election we've missed since either attained voting age.

I have other family I've yet to talk to that I'm sure probably made the same decision.

70 posted on 11/07/2012 6:23:18 PM PST by Repeat Offender (Official Romney/GOP-E Platform - We suck less)
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To: Westbrook
I am with you I just think the whole thing is odd. I was looking at Obama electoral vote count and Romneys and it seems to me that the numbers were switched. Maybe the missing numbers are paper ballots and the numbers represented are e votes. I mean even the house seats were weird and the Republicans were not projected to lose House seats
but they did. It is as if the numbers that had been projected for Romney went to Obama

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324439804578104854095658918.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird

71 posted on 11/07/2012 6:24:26 PM PST by funfan
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To: Westbrook
I am with you I just think the whole thing is odd. I was looking at Obama electoral vote count and Romneys and it seems to me that the numbers were switched. Maybe the missing numbers are paper ballots and the numbers represented are e votes. I mean even the house seats were weird and the Republicans were not projected to lose House seats
but they did. It is as if the numbers that had been projected for Romney went to Obama

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324439804578104854095658918.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird

72 posted on 11/07/2012 6:24:34 PM PST by funfan
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To: kabar
You can recruit foreign born people to the Republican standard and you can teach conservative principles to them as well. I do it all the time and I live in Fairfax County!

Government employees are only 1 out of 7, and a great number of them are hard core Conservatives.

Do people imagine government employees absorb leftwingtard stupidity through government jobs? Actually, when you are in the belly of the beast you see the waste, nonsense, stupidity and sheer thievery propagated by the Democrats. What makes you think people who work there are necessarily dishonest?

We would like to deport the crowd from Jersey ~ they don't give up the old ways.

Now, about the demographics, if you don't get people registered who are reasonably aligned with Republican thinking, they are not going to vote Republican! The dead and injured must be replaced!

73 posted on 11/07/2012 6:25:35 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: kabar

Heard today: “republicans don’t get changing demographics’....

No...the demographics don’t get the United States, Liberty, Freedom, Self-determination, The Constitution or the Bill of Rights and all the blessings they entail.


74 posted on 11/07/2012 6:28:14 PM PST by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: riri

The same thing is true with college students all over the country. Leftists managed to move the discussion from real issues, where their candidate had no defense to his poor performance, to invented psuedo-issues they could use to scare voters into their camp. I saw numerous ads being run by “progressive” groups accusing Republican candidates of wanting to “ban contraception” because a candidate voted or supported legislation to exempt religious employers from having to offer certain kinds of birth control to their employees. Needless to say no media outlet stepped forward to comment on the misleading advertisements, or correct the impression they created. The students fell for it.


75 posted on 11/07/2012 6:29:08 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: muawiyah
See my post #69. We aren't replacing our voters for a number of reasons. The fertility rate for whites is declining below replacement level and the Dems are benefitting from immigration, which imports minorities in large numbers. 87% of the 1.2 million legal immigrants who enter the US each year are minorities as defined by the USG. Minorities and immigrants vote Dem,

Our school systems are producing Dem voters as well. They serve as indoctrination centers--both K-12 and higher education.


76 posted on 11/07/2012 6:31:57 PM PST by kabar
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To: livius
I think Doug Wilson had a pretty good handle on it. Here is a quote from his blog:

"If you want this conservative to vote with you, stop trying to entice me with non-conservatives. Stop trying to feed bacon to your horse. One of the numbing numbers to come out of this fiasco is the fact that if Romney had simply gotten the same number of votes that McCain did, Romney would have won. This deflation happened without a robust third party candidate siphoning off a large number of votes. The results of this election should not cause us to think we need to "move to the center." Two establishment Republican candidates in a row have gone down, and this second time the centrist lost to a failed presidency. I mean, think about it."

-Doug Wilson

77 posted on 11/07/2012 6:33:10 PM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: xuberalles

I am coming to despise them. I realize there are a few thinkers amongst Libertarians, but the majority are brats and act accordingly. That they delight in Romney going down will be short lived. They’ll be thrown into the same gutter as the rest of us when this nation collapses.


78 posted on 11/07/2012 6:34:30 PM PST by stilloftyhenight
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To: kabar
There are normally 90 million adults in this country who simply don't vote in any elections, or only irregularly.

They can be brought into the fold ~ and registration drives work. Obama proved that in 2008. He also proved in 2012 that you have to keep after the new voters as well. The Dems didn't do that.

I have it on good authority that within that bloc of 90 million untamed potential Republican voters, some of them are white people. I don't particularly care. Frankly, we need to bust the backs of the Democrats preying on the East Asians in this country ~ they're just criminals. Several million new Republicans are available if we bother to tag them.

79 posted on 11/07/2012 6:36:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: EBH
Exactly. We are importing Dem voters who don't ascribe to the vision and values of our Founders. The educational system reinforces the view of Big Government and also creates a sense of victimhood and class envy. This country will be destroyed thru the ballot box and the election of 2012 marks the tipping point. Hillary will be the President in 2016, which is why Bill Clinton was campaigning like crazy for Hillary. She wants the blessing of The One.

Over the next four years Hillary will get the necessary plastic surgery, lose a little weight and win easily in 2016. The demographics will favor her even more than Obama. It matters not what Obama does in his second term. Anyone with a "D" after their name will win.

80 posted on 11/07/2012 6:39:14 PM PST by kabar
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