Posted on 11/07/2012 2:58:31 AM PST by The Wizard
We know we had the intensity, we know we had the ground game, and we know we had the turn out that gave us larger numbers than McCain or bama, so, the question needs to be HOW did they do it.
Too many knowledgeable folks who were correct in their assumptions said Romney should have won. Start from that pretense and start looking at the method that could have been used to accomplish the "flip" of votes.....(Only counting every 4th Romney Vote, etc)
My guess is that 4 or more million votes were channeled to bama from Romney in the critical areas that were needed to win....it only needed to be in certain states and viola bama wins....
When you own the DOJ there's no one looking for the problem, (They killed JFK, they ain't just going to roll over) and after seeing what can happen without "Safeguards"= 2010) they were working full time to offset that from happening again....
There was just to much at stake to allow an honest election.
Focus kids......there is someone out there that knows how this was done, you need to find them.
My sentiments exactly. Obama’s MO has always been to do a great big blatant fraud and move on to bigger and worse things before the truth can get its shoes tied. We need to get our shoes tied quickly, before the ADHD American society shrugs and moves on to less important things.
The United States is morally and ethically bankrupt. There’s no room for common sense.
>>>>Bama WILL ABSOLUTELY BE GONE in a few years, and we can start now to undo what he has put in place.
Except by that time, lots of people will have become dependent (or will claim to have become dependent) on Obamacare, and any other entitlement program being set up now. Also the hazy vagueness of Dodd-Frank — which says nothing about abolishing government bailouts of cronies who cry “we’re too big to fail”, will have been fully implemented, and it’s nefarious effects on investment and business — i.e., creating and aggravating massive uncertainty — will have been in place for a few years. No one will blame Dodd-Frank for lack of investment and lack of new jobs, and everyone will say, “See? Capitalism failed.”
I suspect that in 2016, we might see a Democrat run explicitly as a socialist, or on a platform of outright nationalization of key industries (energy, finance, etc.).
This election was a referendum on the morals and values of the electorate. So I don’t see many good options going forward.
That’s what I see. The message for me now needs to be “REPENT!!” It’s obviously no longer going to be handled politically.
the polls were right?....which ones?...the ones saying Mitt was way ahead in Va and Florida and Col....
it was vote rigging...pure and simple...
A better question is how can he be removed?
Does actual evidence make any difference as to whether a person should claim fraud? For instance, if there are precincts with more people voting than actually exist, would it be hypocritical to say there was fraud there?
We have GOT to get back to an evidence-based system, rather than just not wanting to appear this or that way.
That’s what I see. The message for me now needs to be “REPENT!!” It’s obviously no longer going to be handled politically.
as an example of stupidity....in Washington state we apparently just elected a law clerk with no trial exp as attorney general...rat of course.....over a US attorney with lots of exp....
“State by state, the US needs to true the vote. A pure electronic system isn’t going to cut it.”
And don’t forget that voter id must be required to vote. NO provisional ballots. We must require responsibility if you want to vote. We now control more state houses let’s go to work.
The democrats have perfected the cheat machine.
Early voting-this is how they set up what they will need
Fighting Voter ID laws
Absentee ballots
Provisional ballots
Mail In ballots Election day shenanigans
All of that and the most important one is the one you mentioned.
COMPUTER VOTING
After Florida 2000.
Who can forget that and all the kerfuffle over the hanging chads. All the hand wringing about how we need better machines to vote on. That was the big set up. Get machines that could be rigged with no hanging chads and a paper trail.
I would imagine those machines had the fix in very early. That is why the dems didn’t act all crazy about losing.
Those dem proclamations about exit polls and not worrying were just cover in order to act surprised.
We’re so screwed. Harold Ford will be the next mugabe after this one.
He cannot, just look at the senate.
It’s over, the fat lady has sung. Forget the fraud, he will win by a final count 2 million more raw votes. We could not carry Virginia, Ohio, or Florida.
Someone above said it well, we are a fag loving, entitlement, abortion centric country on its way to oblivion. The parallel between us and Rome is complete now. Cradle to grave on someone else’s dime should become the national motto. With our debt, everyone now is a slave to the lender.
I would also suggest getting rid of any other issues but President and Congress on the ballot.
I am sick about the potential damage to the Supreme Court, but less concerned about other aspects of 4 more years of this clown. After all, we still have the house to put up (limited) resistance.
Romney was “the” candidate according to the establishment. He was the man who would win it all. In fact, he was the perfect foil for Obama. Richie Rich and the father of ObamaCare. Add in the 3+ months of non-stop Obama negative adds w/no Romney response and you had the makings of one lousy campaign.
Yes, he did a great job in the first debate, and he did have the momentum heading into October. But Sandy and the fat man from NJ stopped him in his tracks, and playing safe while running out the clock is always a losers game.
So where does this leave the Conservative movement? Before you know it 2014 will be here and another slew of Democrat Senators will give us an opportunity to put away Harry Reid for good. And while ACA is here to stay (thank you John Roberts - enemy of liberty and freedom), come 2016 we have some excellent Governors who can lead us from the mess that will surely be the US. We won’t have to settle for another Romney (a.k.a. fat man) next go round.
Time to recoup, lick our wounds and get ready for the next fight. Oh, and while we are at it can we PLEASE stop nominating idiots like Todd Akin?
Just my 2-cents.
We're not accusing the Marxists of fraud because we lost. We're accusing them of fraud because they carried out a coup in broad daylight in PA by kicking out GOP poll watchers.
We already know they stuffed the ballot boxes in those PA wards. Why else would they kick out all those poll watchers at the same time?
Now we're looking to see how they cheated in the other swing states. Are FReepers interested in finding out the truth, or are they going to lazily blame RR - or the electorate?
bump
There must be some though out of the box
This makes no sense to me. When I consider:
- the country is supposed to be right of centre
- independents were supposed to be in Romney’s camp
- 70% wanted Obamacare repealed
- gas prices
- unemployment
- deficit
- corruption galore
This makes no sense whatsoever. I would check those voting machines.
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