Posted on 11/07/2012 2:58:31 AM PST by The Wizard
We know we had the intensity, we know we had the ground game, and we know we had the turn out that gave us larger numbers than McCain or bama, so, the question needs to be HOW did they do it.
Too many knowledgeable folks who were correct in their assumptions said Romney should have won. Start from that pretense and start looking at the method that could have been used to accomplish the "flip" of votes.....(Only counting every 4th Romney Vote, etc)
My guess is that 4 or more million votes were channeled to bama from Romney in the critical areas that were needed to win....it only needed to be in certain states and viola bama wins....
When you own the DOJ there's no one looking for the problem, (They killed JFK, they ain't just going to roll over) and after seeing what can happen without "Safeguards"= 2010) they were working full time to offset that from happening again....
There was just to much at stake to allow an honest election.
Focus kids......there is someone out there that knows how this was done, you need to find them.
We need some common sense.....IMHO
Did republicans equal 2008 turnout, or did Romney depress the vote?
It’s demographics. No matter how well of a candidate and campaign Rs run in national elections, they will lose from this point on.
Romney attracted less votes than McCain
This is really weird, these numbers don’t makes sense. I guess Obama took his cue from Hugo Chavez.
Common sense tells me the path this country is on and it doesn’t look good. We must always remember that God is in control, no matter what we think or do.
For the same reason that you can’t put new wine in an old flask or repair an old garment with new cloth, it is now time to get rid of the old to prepare for the new. People who are full of themselves have no room for God. We are just about ready for a period of consequences of our actions.
Hang onto your hat as the ride is about to get real bumpy, but don’t worry as we already know that there will be a happy ending.
As of now, so is Obama.
I don’t believe we have those numbers yet.
And in any case - if there proves to have been decisive fraud in the swing states - it doesn’t make sense to blame the RR ticket.
I was looking at old numbers
Bingo.
Easy.
It was over when they picked Mitt Romney.
Early voting and media manipulation sure didn’t help. I also think very long ballots might play a role.
I notice that one of my former Union neighbors who lives in Florida chose this week for his vacation in Michigan. He owns a house in both states.
Has anyone seen a list of ‘votes cast’ vs ‘number of legal ballots’ per state?
If the ‘votes cast’/’legal ballots’ is very high then we know this was won by fraud.
If about 60,000 ‘legal ballots’ per state retail back to vacant lots or gravestones then this was won by fraud.
And if this was indeed won by fraud, then America has suffered a coup.
Long term, the left controls academia so they often control how "educated" people evaluate things and make decisions.
The Republican establishment, yet again, put forward a flawed candidate who was not willing to do what he needed to do to win. They executed a campaign that didn't clearly define the candidate and and his program. They failed to take the fight to their opponent and went into a shell when Sandy hit - the same way McCain did when the financial crisis hit and he "suspended" his campaign. How much of this was Romney and how much of it was the people who ran the campaign we don't know.
Nothing makes sense anymore. So much discontentment and anger. Unemployment and debt and divisiveness. I really thought citizens were speaking with their votes, and we were going to put our country back on track. The momentum was there. I am so stunned. Cynicism is setting in and I am throwing up my hands. All I have to look forward to is that Benghazi will lead to his downfall but then, these robotic short attention span voters have to care first. I’m just babbling now but honestly, I am do stunned.
may I leave you with the one great thing that HAS come out of this election as I go to work:
Bama WILL ABSOLUTELY BE GONE in a few years, and we can start now to undo what he has put in place.
They realized they couldn’t continue to stuff ballot boxes when precincts started coming in with 110% of the registered voters. They are now flipping Romney votes to Obama votes via electronic voting machines. Obama had the depressed turnout...we heard about all the short lines in the cities, they just flipped a few hundred thousand votes and voila.
There is no way to know how many illegal votes were counted.
I’m afraid you’re right ,, and then we had the “traditional” method in Florida of not counting metro Dade until they know how many votes the rat needs.
He will leave his mark on SCOTUS for decades.
Easy.
It was over when they picked Mitt Romney.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Again, the Republican establishment imposed a candidate on the conservative electorate. He did not make issues top their powerful extent, chosing instead a gentlemanly road
in order to attract the independents? Well again, as it did with McCain, IT DID NOT WORK.
The GOP is dead as far as I am concerned.Sarah Palin was our best hope, and she was summarily ejected from the halls of Republican power. HORRIBLE!
Now the RINOS are quiffiung on natiopnal TV about how the failed to “reach out” to minorities? Buahahahahahaha! This minorities need to become Americans, and the Republican party should be converting them to the conservative cause, instaed of “reaching out.”
Sarah Palin and those like her are the only remaining hope for America. And we will prevail electorally or by force majeur in order to protect and defend the Constitution.
THE GOP IS DEAD......and it needs to bury itself and allow conservative patriots a free board.
Race
personally I think this is likely true....But I am not a student of how to do this, and wouldn’t even know where to begin to figure it out. that’s what you get for spending your life working in the legitimate system. they fight a different war, one we are not equipped for.
Gods will
computer voting... so easy to lose a few million votes into the ether with no paper trail
I think O is just one piece in the end time prophecy. In order to get to that happy ending he had to win. The stage is set. Fear not.
they rigged the election, stole it, and now we are nothing more than a banana republic...
You nailed it here. This is the one power that a president has (with congressional approval), that has the most impact IMHO since the SCOTUS appointments are for life. I shudder to think of what type of leftist idealogue (or 2) that hussein will appoint. I have no faith in the spineless Republican congress to reject any far left appointments.
The last 2A case before the court was a narrow 5-4 decision in our favor, but with the appointments that hussein is likely to make, I fear the result of the next 2A case brought before the SCOTUS.
>>>>And that’s a big *if* at the way the numbers are starting to look.
I read something on Facebook that claimed there had been evidence of voter fraud in Ohio . . . 20,000 votes from unregistered voters (or something like that).
Anyone heard any news about that?
Yesterday we had a big thread explaining that when Romney wins the Libs will scream fraud. Now we have a thread claiming fraud because Romney lost.
I hated both candidates, so it does not matter to me, but this seems pretty hypocritical.
Polling: Have we ever considered that the pollsters Rasmussen etc) who for weeks have shown Romney up 3 to6 points are being paid to do so by the Dems. We cannot ever trust Pollsters.
We need to get the GOP Leadership completely replaced. Not just the politicians, but the guys in the smokey back rooms who do not run for office.
Could it be...maybe...perhaps... that the polls were right? Could it be that the 47 million on food stamps actually LIKE being on food stamps?
Every poll on FR was shredded saying there was no way the communists and retards in the electorate outnumbered Republicans. They did.
State by state, the US needs to true the vote. A pure electronic system isn’t going to cut it.
In Britain we use paper ballots marked with Xs - and every ballot has a machine-read registration code that in principle allows the entire vote to be completely audited.
That ability to audit the vote was used to jail several Lefties in a council election a few years back.
And when I say paper ballots I do mean ones marked with Xs. We mustn’t use punch cards where vast numbers of votes can be annulled with one push of a long metal rod - as was the problem in Florida 2000.
How can that be, when the turnout was very high in R areas and very low in D areas?
I suspect that if the numbers are analyzed we’ll find over 100% turnout in lots of places. When that happens will it be crazy conspiracy talk to suggest that there’s been massive fraud?
There is a reason that R observers were thrown out of the polling places (even against the orders of a judge) and replaced with D observers instead, in the critical battleground states. It’s criminal, and it needs to be investigated. Give all the players some truth serum and let’s find out what really happened.
Our Last free election was in 2008, it’s over now, God has turned his back on America. The republican leadership are New World Order big government fascists.
As much as it pains me to say this, the truth is very simple. It has become more and more crystal clear that they have managed to create a super majority of amoral, ill informed greedy peasants that will continue to vote for more handouts, free birth control pills, and sticking it to the “wealthy”.
We can point fingers at the media for covering up and protecting them,the spineless republicans for allowing them to shape the agenda, an endless number of excuses. When it comes down to it, these are all just symptoms of the greater problem. America is stuck on stupid, and unfortunately we just witnessed the greasing of the ramp to oblivion.
My sentiments exactly. Obama’s MO has always been to do a great big blatant fraud and move on to bigger and worse things before the truth can get its shoes tied. We need to get our shoes tied quickly, before the ADHD American society shrugs and moves on to less important things.
The United States is morally and ethically bankrupt. There’s no room for common sense.
>>>>Bama WILL ABSOLUTELY BE GONE in a few years, and we can start now to undo what he has put in place.
Except by that time, lots of people will have become dependent (or will claim to have become dependent) on Obamacare, and any other entitlement program being set up now. Also the hazy vagueness of Dodd-Frank — which says nothing about abolishing government bailouts of cronies who cry “we’re too big to fail”, will have been fully implemented, and it’s nefarious effects on investment and business — i.e., creating and aggravating massive uncertainty — will have been in place for a few years. No one will blame Dodd-Frank for lack of investment and lack of new jobs, and everyone will say, “See? Capitalism failed.”
I suspect that in 2016, we might see a Democrat run explicitly as a socialist, or on a platform of outright nationalization of key industries (energy, finance, etc.).
This election was a referendum on the morals and values of the electorate. So I don’t see many good options going forward.
That’s what I see. The message for me now needs to be “REPENT!!” It’s obviously no longer going to be handled politically.
the polls were right?....which ones?...the ones saying Mitt was way ahead in Va and Florida and Col....
it was vote rigging...pure and simple...
A better question is how can he be removed?
Does actual evidence make any difference as to whether a person should claim fraud? For instance, if there are precincts with more people voting than actually exist, would it be hypocritical to say there was fraud there?
We have GOT to get back to an evidence-based system, rather than just not wanting to appear this or that way.
That’s what I see. The message for me now needs to be “REPENT!!” It’s obviously no longer going to be handled politically.
as an example of stupidity....in Washington state we apparently just elected a law clerk with no trial exp as attorney general...rat of course.....over a US attorney with lots of exp....
“State by state, the US needs to true the vote. A pure electronic system isn’t going to cut it.”
And don’t forget that voter id must be required to vote. NO provisional ballots. We must require responsibility if you want to vote. We now control more state houses let’s go to work.
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