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Chris Christie has the chance to be a real leader on climate change
The Oregonian ^ | November 4, 2012 | By David Sirota

Posted on 11/04/2012 6:13:11 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

In light of horrific wildfires, a historic drought and now the destruction wrought by Hurricane Sandy, the political understatement of the year has to be President Barack Obama's recent comment to MTV. Asked about climate change's absence from all presidential debates for the first time in a generation, he said, "I am surprised it didn't come up."

Instead of "surprised" he should have said "appalled" -- because that's what he and most Americans should be. As Scientific American reports, while no one weather event can be blamed on climate change, science now definitively "link(s) climate change directly to intense storms and other extreme weather events."

Of course, the reason the issue hasn't "come up" in a presidential campaign roiled by climate-related disasters is because many voters refuse to acknowledge that human-intensified climate change is real.

This is why, just days before the national election, New Jersey's Republican Gov. Chris Christie is a potentially more important political figure than anyone running for the White House. Thanks to his fame, his credibility among conservatives and his ubiquitous media presence during the cataclysm, he has the rare chance to persuade Republicans to discard their denialism and finally face reality.

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climategate; failure; hoax; socialism
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The east coast could use some global warming today.
1 posted on 11/04/2012 6:13:30 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Stand around Crispie Creme right after he has six Big Mac’s, and you’re bound to experience a climate change.


2 posted on 11/04/2012 6:16:27 AM PST by Bridesheadfan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Climate change is a LIE.

Guess they still believe in Oregon.


3 posted on 11/04/2012 6:16:47 AM PST by Flintlock (-THE TRUTH--It's the NEW hate speech.)
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To: Bridesheadfan

Yup, I heard the next olympic event to be added will be two laps around him.


4 posted on 11/04/2012 6:21:22 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Fat chance.....


5 posted on 11/04/2012 6:22:07 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
his credibility among conservatives

...has just been shot to pieces.

6 posted on 11/04/2012 6:22:52 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mouton

LOL


7 posted on 11/04/2012 6:23:29 AM PST by Bridesheadfan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I would say that he has a real good chance of becoming a Democrat. If Romney wins or loses on Tuesday, Christie’s name will remain ‘mud’ in the Republican party.


8 posted on 11/04/2012 6:23:38 AM PST by jerod (Pro-Abortion Gun Control Freaks & Environmental Nuts who hated Capitalism? The Nazi's)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Let Governor Christie start implementing a large number of expensive policies designed to lessen carbon footprints directly after a disaster. He’ll be a hero.


9 posted on 11/04/2012 6:24:41 AM PST by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Is it just me, or is this so far beyond unbelievably stupid that it’s not even within the realm of possibility that anyone is really this much of an idiot, and willing to display it publicly?


10 posted on 11/04/2012 6:27:42 AM PST by Tax-chick (Watch out for spiders.)
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To: Smedley
"Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary." -- H. L. Mencken
11 posted on 11/04/2012 6:29:27 AM PST by NamVet71MP
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To: Flintlock
Climate change is a LIE.

Guess they still believe in Oregon.

I guess no one sent them the memo about climate-gate 1 & 2 and the latest biased numbers from the people who were behind both debacles. Even their own data that show that the earth's climate has not warmed for the past 16 years. If the data had not been manipulated there is no doubt that it would show cooling not warming. What a bunch of bozos.

12 posted on 11/04/2012 6:30:58 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
As Scientific American reports...

I recall when Sci American was scientific.

13 posted on 11/04/2012 6:31:44 AM PST by corkoman (Release the Palin!)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

His political instincts suck.

Giving Obama a photo op, then having the unions turn away non-union help has made him look like an idiot.

Make no mistake, he’s an ace over a deuce, compared to the guy he beat (Corzine), but so is a root canal.

Who decided this chooch should’ve been keynote speaker? That moron should be shitcanned.


14 posted on 11/04/2012 6:32:27 AM PST by mindburglar (I'm not "The Man" anymore. Stick it to someone else.)
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To: Tax-chick

It looks pretty stupid when expressed on the national level, but within the context of Portland, Oregon, it is conventional wisdom.


15 posted on 11/04/2012 6:35:18 AM PST by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: Tax-chick

Why can’t they just realize that the NE was slated for destruction by the gods of earth, wind and fire? And you know, the gods are not crazy!

It’s a small step from belief in global warming or climate change to the gods concept... I choose...


16 posted on 11/04/2012 6:36:43 AM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Climate change is a fact. It has been going on since the earth began. The lie is that it is caused by man or can be controlled by man.


17 posted on 11/04/2012 6:37:23 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

For fu*ksake, I’m sick of hearing about “climate change.” Their newest bs response is to say, “Maybe it isn’t real. But are you willing to take the chance?” Yes. Yes I am because the “solutions” they’re proposing are so absurd.

I saw another fool on ted.com say that climate change doesn’t matter because what’s being proposed (renewable energy, less waste, respect for Moma Earth, etc.) is so wonderful.


18 posted on 11/04/2012 6:37:55 AM PST by youngidiot (He's got Mad Cow. She's living with him in the White House.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What a jack@ss this author is.

I can just see how well this announcement would go over ...

Gov. Christie: "In an effort to stave off the next hurricane by reducing the impact of climate change, I'm going to permanently reduce New Jersey's carbon footprint. As of 9:30 AM today, all utility crews that were working to restore power are going to stop that work ... and they will be reassigned to a new task of shutting off power to the entire state. We're going to live like the GEICO cavemen from this point forward."

19 posted on 11/04/2012 6:38:41 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The north east is currently experiencing the total “ green energy “ utopia liberals dream of....

No electricity, no power, no gas... No carbon footprint at all....


20 posted on 11/04/2012 6:39:18 AM PST by Popman (November 7th...will be a good day for America..)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The author, David Sirota, was a Journalism and Political Science major. As evidenced by the confusion in his writing, Sirota has no background in or understanding of “science”.

Sirota is a typical ‘progressive’ who is a sucker for appeals to authority and is clearly lacking in critical thinking skills, which undoubtedly explains why he has a gig as contributor to the Salon web site. His choice of Scientific American as the authority behind his dubious climate claims is laughable.


21 posted on 11/04/2012 6:40:38 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Screw the fat windbag! Where was he when the Alabama utilty crews drove up to help the residents get power? These true Americans were cursed at and called scabs by organized union thugs who have Jersey and the Met area under their grip. Consequently, the Alabamans returned home without a word from Christie, Cuomo or Bloomberg.


22 posted on 11/04/2012 6:42:11 AM PST by kenmcg (t)
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To: jerod

That’s what I think too. After Hussein gets trounced the dems are going to move away from the unions and Christie will turn parties. He’ll become the dem candidate in 2016.


23 posted on 11/04/2012 6:44:23 AM PST by gotribe (He's a mack-daddy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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To: kenmcg

Utility crews from Houston went up there too, I haven’t heard if they stayed or came home.


24 posted on 11/04/2012 6:45:00 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Flintlock
Climate change is a LIE.

Agreed. So where's the Barf Alert?

25 posted on 11/04/2012 6:46:05 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 1)
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To: Alberta's Child
What a jack@ss this author is.

He regularly appears in our newpaper .... the few times I ever pick the paper up, I regularly refuse to read anything he writes.

26 posted on 11/04/2012 6:46:58 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Dude, climate change went out with mullet hair and mom jeans.


27 posted on 11/04/2012 6:48:07 AM PST by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I believe climate change is real, hell, it happens every day, I wake up in the cool of the morning and by 3PM its hotter than hell, - what I DON’T agree with is that is is a bad thing or that it is in any way out of the range of cyclic variation.
If we let the left define the words, we lose


28 posted on 11/04/2012 6:48:30 AM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (we are so screwed - ^_^)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Of course climate change is real, it changes from season to season and from year to year. We have droughts and floods, cold winters and some years, no winter at all. It is the “man made” part that I disagree with.


29 posted on 11/04/2012 6:52:34 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Truly, these people are mentally ill. AND mentally deficient.

IOW, ready for recruitment by the DOJ, based on new DOJ guidelines for recruiting lawyers.


30 posted on 11/04/2012 6:57:16 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A climate scientist is to a real scientist as is a kid with a balsa wood glider is to a fighter pilot.


31 posted on 11/04/2012 7:07:31 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Human-intensified climate change.

They have invented a new religious terminology.

32 posted on 11/04/2012 7:14:45 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Obama didn't fix it!)
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To: dps.inspect
And you know, the gods are not crazy!

On a geological time scale the Pacific Northwest is so toast.

33 posted on 11/04/2012 7:18:05 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Obama didn't fix it!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I might give some thought to climate change (didn’t they used to call this “global warming” or some such?) were it not promulgated largely by professional liars.


34 posted on 11/04/2012 7:19:04 AM PST by The Duke
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Maybe by going on the record as to what total crock of shite and con game it actually is.


35 posted on 11/04/2012 7:20:48 AM PST by tomkat ( PAlabama '12 = RR = 300 +)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
In light of horrific wildfires, a historic drought and now the destruction wrought by Hurricane Sandy...

Wildfires, droughts and hurricanes have always occurred, and are not occurring with any more frequency than normal.

Extreme weather is an integral part of the Earth’s climate

Global temperatures have been declining for 2000 years when you don't use the fraudulent data used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

The Tree Ring Data Scandal

New tree ring study shows 2000 years of cooling

36 posted on 11/04/2012 7:29:30 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/05/gov_christie_arrives_at_sons_h.html

The guy who takes a helicopter to his son’s baseball game and then needs a car to go 100 yards is the new global warming fighter???


37 posted on 11/04/2012 7:32:09 AM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Tax-chick

“Everybody talks about the weather but nobody does anything”

Your first clue you’re dealing with an idiot is when you have to explain to them that it’s a joke.

Your second clue that you’re dealing with an idiot is they still don’t believe it’s just a joke even after you tell them it’s a joke.

They really are idiots.


38 posted on 11/04/2012 7:43:29 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

Excellent points.


39 posted on 11/04/2012 7:47:04 AM PST by Tax-chick (Watch out for spiders.)
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To: Tax-chick

Treat yourself to a really good laugh at an idiots expense next time someone brings up Global Warming/Climate change.

Simply make the statement and be just a serious as you can, “everybody talks about the weather but nobody does anything”, then sit back and watch, they will not get that it’s a joke.


40 posted on 11/04/2012 8:04:58 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Tax-chick
Ditto... your post is most-excellent. I have grown weary of being called an ignorant denier. Until and unless the left provides mathematical proofs then I will remain convinced that the earth's climate is influenced by the wobble of earth's axis and the varying non-linear cosmic ray bombardment from our nearest star. God gave us the gift of life on this planet, and it is beyond arrogance and presumptuousness to think that humans have the power to determine the climate on our planet merely by controlling CO2 concentration in the atmosphere.
41 posted on 11/04/2012 8:06:57 AM PST by gcraig (Freedom is not free)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How much do donuts contribute to global warming?


42 posted on 11/04/2012 8:07:41 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Bridesheadfan

43 posted on 11/04/2012 8:10:14 AM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

Obama to Christie, “I’ve got fudge........Hershey’s Chocolate Kisses....We’re talkin’ Haagen Dazs, here, what do you say?”


44 posted on 11/04/2012 8:11:50 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
LOL true or
45 posted on 11/04/2012 8:15:26 AM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

46 posted on 11/04/2012 8:19:46 AM PST by SparkyBass
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Onion? No?

It should be...


47 posted on 11/04/2012 8:20:17 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Tax-chick

Chris Christie is a true treasure to this country. His ass is so big it blocks out at least 25% of all the harmful UV rays from the sun. He is however, a Democrat, a great big Blue Dog Democrat. So just say it, let it go and let him go. He doesn’t represent me or my party in any shape, matter or form.

By the way I see how that Hope we get some help, and Change your underware because they’re pulling guns on us because we don’t have anything to give them for free is going in New York.

By the way please turn Bloomberg loose by himself in the wiped out areas. Then put that on Tru TV later. That would be a hoot! I bet he could run a New York Marathon trying to get away!


48 posted on 11/04/2012 8:20:58 AM PST by Kolar308 (Medical Alert)
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To: Tax-chick

Murphy’s law. Just when you think you’ve idiot proofed something. They will invent a better idiot...

The Left exemplifies this axiom...


49 posted on 11/04/2012 8:21:49 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: txrefugee

“Fat chance.....”

Worth repeating.


50 posted on 11/04/2012 8:28:46 AM PST by FryingPan101 (2016 looms)
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